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Gastineau Lives    3,793

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/856/jets-defense

According to ESPN New York, "the word on the street" is that the Jets are telling potential GM candidates that they won't be considered for the job unless they agree to keep head coach Rex Ryan for a year.

It's similar to Phil Emery's arrangement with the Bears last season. The Jets' caveat could end up costing them a respected up-and-coming talent evaluator if Tom Gamble (49ers), Marc Ross (Giants), David Caldwell (Falcons), or John Dorsey (Packers) decides he would rather bring in someone who shares his own philosophy.

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Jetscode1    10,082

Cimini quoting Mehta who got the lowdown from Pettine....hardly credible.

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Bleedin Green    73,955

Cimini quoting Mehta who got the lowdown from Pettine....hardly credible.

Without even evaluating the validity of this particular story, it is kind of ridiculous that we're supposed to believe something must be more legitimate simply because it was reported by "multiple" sources. When you look at it, each article on the topic is simply pointing back to an article from a different source, and that article cites another site/paper as it's source as well and in the end, it all leads back to the same one report from the beginning that people were significantly less inclined to believe at the time.

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Jetscode1    10,082

Without even evaluating the validity of this particular story, it is kind of ridiculous that we're supposed to believe something must be more legitimate simply because it was reported by "multiple" sources. When you look at it, each article on the topic is simply pointing back to an article from a different source, and that article cites another site/paper as it's source as well and in the end, it all leads back to the same one report from the beginning that people were significantly less inclined to believe at the time.

It's like sitting in a bar...one guys has an opinion, so does the guy sitting next to him...and so on...now we have multiple sources suggesting something...it's beyond comical...but ESPN is paying him...so go figure.

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Jetscode1    10,082

If true.

Woody is married to Rex.

Rex is married to Sanchez.

Jet fans are married to Misery.

Woody has a tattoo of Rex sucking his wife's toes.

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Scott Dierking    129,435

Common sense should tell us that having Rex as a coach is less attractive as having the job vacant.

Woody is trying to pinch a few pennies and and have a martyrdom at coach for next year. As long as moves aren't made in a "save Rex" mode to the roster, I can live with it.

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HessStation    20,395

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/856/jets-defense

According to ESPN New York, "the word on the street" is that the Jets are telling potential GM candidates that they won't be considered for the job unless they agree to keep head coach Rex Ryan for a year.

It's similar to Phil Emery's arrangement with the Bears last season. The Jets' caveat could end up costing them a respected up-and-coming talent evaluator if Tom Gamble (49ers), Marc Ross (Giants), David Caldwell (Falcons), or John Dorsey (Packers) decides he would rather bring in someone who shares his own philosophy.

duh ya ****ing think!?

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bitonti    36,751

Woody is trying to pinch a few pennies

6 mil is not pennies. I love how free and easy we are with OPM. Jets fans complain about bridge and tunnel tolls 15 bucks OMG but 6 mil of woody's money is no problem.

a case can be made that the franchise health long term is better if they wait a year on Rex and Sanchez than if they just burn 14 million for no apparent reason. if you guys are in the rebuilding mode then rebuilding can take a long damn time. what's the hurry if the house is a complete tear down

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Gastineau Lives    3,793

6 mil is not pennies. I love how free and easy we are with OPM. Jets fans complain about bridge and tunnel tolls 15 bucks OMG but 6 mil of woody's money is no problem.

a case can be made that the franchise health long term is better if they wait a year on Rex and Sanchez than if they just burn 14 million for no apparent reason. if you guys are in the rebuilding mode then rebuilding can take a long damn time. what's the hurry if the house is a complete tear down

Well, I have this brilliant scheme for Woody to offset the loss of 6 mil. Let him charge people to personally license their seats, to pay for merchandise and all the other goodies that winning football teams enjoy. If he puts a good product on the field, one that people are not physically disgusted with, Bingo!

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JetPotato    1,443

6 mil is not pennies. I love how free and easy we are with OPM. Jets fans complain about bridge and tunnel tolls 15 bucks OMG but 6 mil of woody's money is no problem.

a case can be made that the franchise health long term is better if they wait a year on Rex and Sanchez than if they just burn 14 million for no apparent reason. if you guys are in the rebuilding mode then rebuilding can take a long damn time.

Woody's money?

Every cent of that contract will come out of our pockets. The Jets don't pay operating costs out of Woody's personal inheritance. In fact, the value of his franchise is worth more to him if he gets a capable GM that wins. A Super Bowl more than makes up for that 6 mil. It's called return on investment.

PS. Given your politics, I find you calling people out for spending OPM HILARIOUS ;)

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bitonti    36,751

Woody's money?

Every cent of that contract will come out of our pockets. The Jets don't pay operating costs out of Woody's personal inheritance. In fact, the value of his franchise is worth more to him if he gets a capable GM that wins. A Super Bowl more than makes up for that 6 mil. It's called return on investment.

PS. Given your politics, I find you calling people out for spending OPM HILARIOUS ;)

rebuttals 1) there's a less than 5% chance of a Super Bowl whether or not they fire the HC and cut the QB. 2) if it's our money, Cost vs benefits he should spend it on free agency or whatever instead of paying 2 people a combined 8 figures to not work for the Jets.

as for my politics first off wtf are you to ask. Potato is that some sort of euphemism for a butt plug?

but since you did I am also a kick the fg on 4th and 1 from the one type of football fan. 3 yards and a cloud of dust works. I root for the home team. as liberal as I might be in other areas (not that it's your business), i'm that Conservative as football fan. Reactionary even.

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Scott Dierking    129,435

6 mil is not pennies. I love how free and easy we are with OPM. Jets fans complain about bridge and tunnel tolls 15 bucks OMG but 6 mil of woody's money is no problem.

a case can be made that the franchise health long term is better if they wait a year on Rex and Sanchez than if they just burn 14 million for no apparent reason. if you guys are in the rebuilding mode then rebuilding can take a long damn time. what's the hurry if the house is a complete tear down

If Rex is such a brilliant mind, as you claim he is, some other team will snap him up, and the Jets would not be on the hook for the entirety of that contract.

If the jets are stupid enough to spend multi-millions extending a qb who hasn't done anything, then they should consider spending to align their coaching with their new direction. That is smart money spent.

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slats    96,058

If the Jets job is unattractive because the GM might have to hold onto Rex for a year, how unattractive is the KC job where the new GM is being brought in to essentially do Andy Reid's bidding?

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spjets    7,952

I hope we're on Intervention instead.

Could you imagine Rex cursing out doctor drew

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SayNoToDMC    13,601

If the Jets job is unattractive because the GM might have to hold onto Rex for a year, how unattractive is the KC job where the new GM is being brought in to essentially do Andy Reid's bidding?

Situations don't really relate at all. They've worked together before, went as a package deal and will both be in their first year rebuilding.

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PatriotReign37    31,232

Its like saying I will give you Jets 50 yard line seats 10 rows from the field, but you have to sit next to Captain Jet.

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slats    96,058

Situations don't really relate at all. They've worked together before, went as a package deal and will both be in their first year rebuilding.

What if Heckert doesn't take the job?

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JetPotato    1,443

rebuttals 1) there's a less than 5% chance of a Super Bowl whether or not they fire the HC and cut the QB.

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard here in minutes. The odds of winning the Super Bowl down the road are the same no matter who is GM/coach/QB? Really? This is about putting the franchise in position to hire the best possible GM. Why possibly limit yourself because of the coach? The coach who has made your franchise a public laughing stock?

2) if it's our money, Cost vs benefits he should spend it on free agency or whatever instead of paying 2 people a combined 8 figures to not work for the Jets.

Um, no. First of all, Rex's salary doesn't count against the cap, so reallocating it to players isn't really even a viable comparison. By the way, how has free agency worked out for us in the past? In the NFL, you win by drafting smart.

If paying someone you've fired (plus new coach) means you get the best possible GM to build a staff and a roster, I'd make that investment any day.

as for my politics first off wtf are you to ask.

Dude, not asking, well established from your old days at the old place where you'd endlessly bicker with the Scot. Hence the wink.

Potato is that some sort of euphemism for a butt plug?

The fact that you went there is interesting. Maybe you can explain what road you took to get from "potato" to "butt plug".

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Bleedin Green    73,955

2) if it's our money, Cost vs benefits he should spend it on free agency or whatever instead of paying 2 people a combined 8 figures to not work for the Jets.

The money is already going to be spent on these guys regardless. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to change that. For the moment, let's focus this point solely on Sanchez first, as that's very cut and dry. The Jets are on the hook to him for a lot of money this year because of an epically moronic deal made by the dipsh*t who just got his ass booted to the curb for that as reason #1 on quite a long list. There are two possible scenarios here:

1) Sanchez is done as the Jets starter. The guy is clearly not bringing even the slightest bit of a positive impact to this team in any capacity. If you agree this is the case, then are you suggesting that the Jets are somehow in any remotely better shape by pissing away all of this money on Sanchez to sit on the bench? How is that doing anything but compounding the idiotic decision to give him this money by adding on another idiotic decision to waste a roster spot, time and coaching on someone you are done with? Other than citing money that is 100% guaranteed to be paid by the Jets for him to do nothing, whether or not he's on the team, can you give one reason to explain how there's any logic to support this? Either way he's getting paid for nothing, why waste any more of your resources on him?

2) The only other position you could possibly have is that you think Sanchez isn't done as a starter. In which case, you're essentially making the point that, because of this idiotic contract, the Jets should continue to give Sanchez the opportunity to ruin any hopes of this team having an even slightly competent passing offense. That would essentially mean, that you would be suggesting that because of an idiotic decision the team already made last year, they should continue to make additional idiotic decisions that will be detrimental to both the present and future of this time. Does that about cover it? The only reason I can guess why you think this is even worth consideration is if you somehow think it will make the team look like less of complete ****ing idiots if they force Sanchez to try to "earn" the money (and that's never going to happen) they so foolishly guaranteed him.

The bottom line? Regardless of what the Jets do from here, that money is gone. There's yet to be an argument made to explain how exactly wasting a roster spot, or worse yet a starting spot and an entire season of Jets football, on Sanchez changes that one damn bit in any sort of positive manner for anyone, Woody included.

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Bleedin Green    73,955

Its like saying I will give you Jets 50 yard line seats 10 rows from the field, but you have to sit next to Captain Jet.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

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pedro55    62

If the Jets job is unattractive because the GM might have to hold onto Rex for a year, how unattractive is the KC job where the new GM is being brought in to essentially do Andy Reid's bidding?

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Reid supposedly already had a coaching staff built, has picked out a GM or has an agreement to work with one, he's been a winning NFL HC for what, 10 out of 14 years, whereas Rex Ryan seems to throw 'big names' into the mix. "Hey Turner is available, I want him as OC." He seems to talk out of his mouth most times and it was great when the Jets made it to the AFC Championship games, but when they missed the playoffs two years straight, loud mouths kind of sound stupid.

Think about it. Andy Reid has had a few bad seasons with a team considered "dream team." His team gave up on him this year. He gets fired Monday. He has 3 teams wanting him on Tuesday(Cardinals, Chiefs, Chargers) and maybe more, he has a deal in place by Friday. By next week he's planning for a draft, planning on rebuilding the Chiefs. Fans are excited for a new beginning. A new GM will come in and already have a plan in place.

Now lets go to the Jets. Rex is on 'vacation' and hasn't been heard from since, except for some stupid tat. The Jets GM was fired. Nobody really has said anything since. The Jets are supposed to look for a GM today. They throw out a bunch of names and it seems more for PR over anything else. There doesn't seem to be anybody knocking on the door right now. They have a lame duck coaching staff. They have lame duck players. They have an owner who is more interested in a presidential race than the team.

The situations couldn't be more different. On Monday, Andy Reid, his staff, his new GM, etc start work for next season.

The Jets seem to be stuck in this, lets make the most of the media, instead of actually making good decisions.

The problem with Rex Ryan is he's worse than his own father. He is a great DC, not so great HC. He's also brash, a loud mouth, and supposedly a 'players coach' on a team that essentially quit on him two seasons in a row. Nobody on the Jets seemed to care enough about Rex that they wanted to win one for him. Hell, Norv Turner and the Chargers went out on a winning streak. Players and the media and some fans came out supporting Turner, saying a lot of nice things about him.

Rex is still the HC of the Jets and it's like silence of the Jets. You can't really be known as a 'players coach' and have many of your own players not backing you up. Not even showing up the last part of the season. That says all anybody needs to know. Whether he brought in the wrong type of player or not, that's on him.

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HessStation    20,395

Woody's money?

Every cent of that contract will come out of our pockets. The Jets don't pay operating costs out of Woody's personal inheritance. In fact, the value of his franchise is worth more to him if he gets a capable GM that wins. A Super Bowl more than makes up for that 6 mil. It's called return on investment.

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Jetsfan80    72,224

If keeping Rex causes the following:

1) The hiring of a 2nd-tier GM

2) Sanchez to remain the starting QB in 2013

I'd support Rex's firing. Neither of those things can be allowed to happen.

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Bleedin Green    73,955

If keeping Rex causes the following:

1) The hiring of a 2nd-tier GM

2) Sanchez to remain the starting QB in 2013

I'd support Rex's firing. Neither of those things can be allowed to happen.

Yep.

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