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[gangreenman]

SO we will get 2 games a year against a Cover Who defense. A positive development.

He was the Secondary Coach for Syracuse this past year...

[Obrien2Toon]

I finally like a hire by the Bills. They seem to like to hire failed retreads like Jauron and Gailey.

[Joe Jets fan]

I live up here and follow SU pretty close. I think he has a rocket for an arm. I could be wrong but I have heard story's that he has a stronger arm then Mcnabb when he was here. Plus he is smart. Which us a must with an nfl QB

[bitonti]

I don't understand how you reached this conclusion. He's a very good NFL coach, he has in no way proved he's a good HC to this point.

he's 34-30 WL with 4-2 in the playoffs, in this league, that's very good.

[JFtoLong]

he's 34-30 WL with 4-2 in the playoffs, in this league, that's very good.

After 4 years with the Jets, Herm had a better regular season record than Rex, sometimes you need to look beyond the stats.

Sanchez also has the same or almost the same record as a starting QB in the NFl, he's not very good, to put it mildly

[SweetLee83]

this guy was 25-25 in college



yeah, the Bills are still a bargain-bin shopping team

See this is just ignorant and uniformed.

25-25 is better than 10-37 (what they were before him), right?

Going from the 102nd ranked recruiting class, to the 73rd is good, right?

Finishing with the 21st ranked offense in the fbs is good right?


He took the 82nd best qb in the 08 recruiting class, a two star prospec,t and made him into a first rounder. Not bad, right?

I"m not overly excited about what he's done though, it is impressive, I'm excited that they stayed ahead of the curve and hired a coach who has he potential to be great. That is what excites me about Marrone is that we are seeing him at the very beginning of what I think will be a great career for him.

It's not our usual retread like Gailey or Jauron.

[bitonti]

After 4 years with the Jets, Herm had a better regular season record than Rex, sometimes you need to look beyond the stats.

Sanchez also has the same or almost the same record as a starting QB in the NFl, he's not very good, to put it mildly

Herman Edwards was such a hot coaching name that Carl Petersen tampered with the Jets to get him to go to KC. I'm not the one who makes the standards for what is considered "good" by the league. Rex is good by the league's standards. He has a great defense and many head coaches don't have anything great.

Is he good by Jets fan's standards, that's another question. While I can sympathize with wanting nothing but the best, sometimes I think we as fans lose perspective. the perfect is the enemy of the good. This is entertainment and being a Jets fan is like betting a number at the roulette wheel. You're 33-1 to win. And we get mad when it doesn't happen.

Edited by bitonti, 06 January 2013 - 06:06 PM.

[SayNoToDMC]

Herman Edwards was such a hot coaching name

Stoped there

[bitonti]

Stoped there

it happened dude. not only did Herm get another job, he was interviewing for it before he got fired from NY. In other news Im real sorry the Jets didn't fire Rex and miss out on the Doug Marrone era. But don't worry there's still time to get Tomasula.

[Blackout]

See this is just ignorant and uniformed.

25-25 is better than 10-37 (what they were before him), right?

Going from the 102nd ranked recruiting class, to the 73rd is good, right?

Finishing with the 21st ranked offense in the fbs is good right?


He took the 82nd best qb in the 08 recruiting class, a two star prospec,t and made him into a first rounder. Not bad, right?

I"m not overly excited about what he's done though, it is impressive, I'm excited that they stayed ahead of the curve and hired a coach who has he potential to be great. That is what excites me about Marrone is that we are seeing him at the very beginning of what I think will be a great career for him.

It's not our usual retread like Gailey or Jauron.

dude if you think this guy is going to make any changes to your even-worse-than-the-jets franchise then you are mistaken my friend

the guy would still be available in a month and was on nobodies radar for a reason

[SouthernJet]

it happened dude. not only did Herm get another job, he was interviewing for it before he got fired from NY. In other news Im real sorry the Jets didn't fire Rex and miss out on the Doug Marrone era. But don't worry there's still time to get Tomasula.

Yup, and it was odd Bit.
Jet fans hated him yet he was sought still by KC/others.
BUT, my buddy who lives in Kansas was saying all his friends (seas tix holders) were PISSED from Day One cause they knew he sucked.
Sometimes fans know more than execs.

[SenorGato]

After 4 years with the Jets, Herm had a better regular season record than Rex, sometimes you need to look beyond the stats.

Reading this for two minutes trying to figure out which way you were arguing.

The more I read about this hire for the Bills the more I think it was possibly a good idea on their part.

[slats]

After 4 years with the Jets, Herm had a better regular season record than Rex, sometimes you need to look beyond the stats.

Sanchez also has the same or almost the same record as a starting QB in the NFl, he's not very good, to put it mildly

It's amazing that you can't credit the coach with that record when you look at the QB he's had to work with for four years.

Herm had Testaverde and Pennington, and even Brooks Bollinger was probably better than anyone on the Jets today. There's just no comparison.

[Scott Dierking]

You're 33-1 to win. And we get mad when it doesn't happen.

Bit, that is absolute rubbish.

You have it sound like winning is some form of lottery, and that you win when your numbers come up.

It is not like that at all. Winning is a combination of planning and adept maneuvers and execution with a little bit of luck thrown in. It is about having a plan.

This current regime of jets (or at least the half that is left regarding maneuvers and execution), are not excellent at that. rex is a good coach, but not a great coach.

As well, as Bill Parcells tells us, coaches have a shelf life. Rex is one of those coaches that has a short shelf life, based on his frailties in leadership and over-loyalty.

we witness that manifested in player moves and ultimate leadership. More so, we see it in declining results.

Do not give us this "winning is a 33-1 shot. Pure tripe

[Scott Dierking]

It's amazing that you can't credit the coach with that record when you look at the QB he's had to work with for four years.

Herm had Testaverde and Pennington, and even Brooks Bollinger was probably better than anyone on the Jets today. There's just no comparison.

You can't separate the coach from the QB. The coach was the biggest proponent of drafting the qb. The coach has had his staff nurture and mentor the qb. The coach was a part of recommending that the qb get extended. The coach would not bench the qb.

They are part of the same equation.

[slats]

You can't separate the coach from the QB. The coach was the biggest proponent of drafting the qb. The coach has had his staff nurture and mentor the qb. The coach was a part of recommending that the qb get extended. The coach would not bench the qb.

They are part of the same equation.

He was loyal to Sanchez for too long. Should've had a legitimate backup option this year and the extension never should've happened. I'd say there's some joint responsibility there with the guy they fired.

That said, if Rex had Testaverde and Martin his first season, he would've won the Super Bowl.

[Scott Dierking]

He was loyal to Sanchez for too long. Should've had a legitimate backup option this year and the extension never should've happened. I'd say there's some joint responsibility there with the guy they fired.

That said, if Rex had Testaverde and Martin his first season, he would've won the Super Bowl.

Football evaluation can't take place like that. Coaches coach and are evaluated on how they performed with the players they have.

Any coach in the league could substitute 2 prime positions and say "if I only had x and y, I would win the SB".

It is the mantra of the loser.

[Irish Jet]

Rex gets half the credit when the Jets were doing well, and gets all the blame when things go badly. I guess that’s always the way with a coach so obviously favouring one aspect of the game, and even moreso for a guy who likes to run his mouth, but it’s still quite ridiculous to think he’s solely responsible for everything that happened with Mark Sanchez.

I blame Brett Favre for it all. The ****.

[slats]

Football evaluation can't take place like that. Coaches coach and are evaluated on how they performed with the players they have.

Any coach in the league could substitute 2 prime positions and say "if I only had x and y, I would win the SB".

It is the mantra of the loser.

Rex didn't say it, I did. And I am -by definition- a loser, having rooted for this team for over 40 years.

[Scott Dierking]

Rex gets half the credit when the Jets were doing well, and gets all the blame when things go badly. I guess that’s always the way with a coach so obviously favouring one aspect of the game, and even moreso for a guy who likes to run his mouth, but it’s still quite ridiculous to think he’s solely responsible for everything that happened with Mark Sanchez.

I blame Brett Favre for it all. The ****.

Pretty sure that it was Rex's name attached to "2 consecutive AFCCG's". We know this, because he told us so. And he deserved the credit he got in getting the Jets there (although, I wish he had not treated that Patriot win like the SB, and had the team prepared in Pittsburgh).

In the same vane, he has to take responsibility for the mess that this team is in right now, as he has earned that also.

And that is where we are today.