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[kelly]

Matt Moore is the only realistic guy on that list. Maybe Bush, but probably not.

Jets have absolutely no business at all going after RFAs this year. They need to draft players with their picks, not trade them for much more expensive free agents. Can't imagine the Jets being able to afford Spencer, either, forget whether he's worth it or not.

spencer is gonna be lookin' for some " major coin "...oh well ....i would like to have him on our roster though

[kelly]

Polian ranks the free-agent class

 

ESPN analyst Bill Polian, a former general manager, released his free-agent rankings this week (Insider). He breaks them down into three categories -- A, B and C free agents.

Polian's definition of the three tiers :

A Players: Worth paying big, starter-caliber money.

B Players: Guys I would sign but only if the value made sense.

C Players: Guys I'd sign for low-salary, short-term (one or two years) value, with low bonuses.

Polian mentions only five Jets in his rankings, which is interesting
because he was invited by owner Woody Johnson to participate in some of
the team's recent general-manager interviews.     ~ ~ SAYS SOMETHIN' ABOUT OUR ROSTER FOLKS ~ ~

Anyway, here you go :

'A' FREE AGENTS

S LaRon Landry:
Landry had a good year for a bad team. He's a striker, a big hitter.
While he is a little older, he's still a pretty serviceable player.
We're closer to B territory now, but for a team looking for a safety, he
could do a good job.

'B' FREE AGENTS

DT Mike DeVito: He's a hard-playing run-defender, and teams that play the 3-4 will take a look at him as a valuable role player.

Other B free agents  : RB Shonn Greene, TE Dustin Keller, RG Brandon Moore

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...ree-agent-class

 

[kelly]

The Buffalo Bills made their first significant moves on new coach Doug Marrone's watch Monday,

releasing veteran starting linebacker Nick Barnett and safety George Wilson.

Barnett, who will turn 32 in May, signed a three-year contract with
the Bills in 2011. He recorded back-to-back 100-tackle seasons. However,
Buffalo's run defense has gotten progressively worse and was 31st in
the NFL last season.Wilson was a respected leader and voted a five-time team captain

during his eight seasons in Buffalo. He was also the team's NFL Players
Association representative.

 

"Moves like the ones we've made today are never easy, but we have to

do what's best for our team and keep moving forward," Bills general
manager Buddy Nix said in a statement. "We've got some good young
players on our roster who we feel are ready to take the next step and
they will now have the opportunity to do so."We thank both Nick and

George for everything they've given the Billsorganization and wish them

nothing but the best for the future," he
said.

The Bills are expected to have a drastic makeover at linebacker, and
cutting Barnett was the first move. The group was pushed around too
often last season and needs to get bigger and more physical.

Wilson, who will turn 32 next month, played 92 career games with

the Bills and posted more than 100 tackles each of the past two seasons,including 104 last season.

 

> http://espn.go.com/n...t-george-wilson

[kelly]

The Dallas Cowboys franchised Anthony Spencer
last year in the hopes that he'd have a big contract year and they'd
get the best out of him. They got their wish. Unfortunately, because of
that, they may not be able to keep him.Stephen Jones offered this not-overly-optimistic analysis of the team's chances
to retain Spencer, who is eligible for unrestricted free agency while
the Cowboys are projected to be about $18 million over the salary cap.

 

Per the Dallas Morning News :
 

The Cowboys can do some things to clear cap room. They can extend Tony Romo's contract, restructure the deals of Brandon Carr and Miles Austin. They can cut some players, like Marcus Spears and Doug Free.
They likely could, if they wanted to, clear enough room to allow them
to re-sign Spencer to play defensive end in their new 4-3 scheme. The
problem is, they likely wouldn't be able to add any other pieces of
significance, and they need help on the offensive line as well.Spencer is going to cost. He made $8.8 million in 2012 on thefranchise tag and is likely looking at an eight-figure average salary on
the open market. He has the ability to play outside linebacker in a 3-4
or defensive end in a 4-3, which increases the size of his market and
likely will lead to a bigger deal. He's not likely to do the Cowboys any
favors by taking a below-market deal to stay in Dallas, and he
shouldn't. The team-friendly way in which NFL contracts are structured
takes loyalty almost completely out of the equation. These NFL careers
are short, and Spencer needs to get the best possible deal for himself.
No one will or should begrudge him that.

So while the Cowboys may want to keep Spencer and he may, in a
vacuum, want to stay, I don't see how they can field a competitive offer
to keep him. They can't afford to franchise him again. Their only hope
of fitting him under this year's cap, even if they did all of that
aforementioned work, would be a long-term deal with a prorated signing
bonus and a low 2013 base salary. The franchise tag is the opposite of
that.If they do lose Spencer, the Cowboys are likely going to be on the
hunt for a pass-rushing defensive end, and those are hard to find. They
might end up needing to take one in the first round of the draft.
There's some thought that Jason Hatcher
could play that spot, and it's possible he can, but he's not a
prototypical 4-3 pass-rushing end, and a move like that could leave them
thin on the interior of the defensive line. Tyrone Crawford
likely isn't ready to be a starter at that position. Losing Spencer
could alter the Cowboys' offseason priority list in a major way.But they and their fans need to be prepared to lose Spencer. Becausethe right thing for him to do is to hit the open market. And when he does, I think he'll quickly work his way out of the Cowboys' pricerange.

 

“Unfortunately you’ve got to make difficult decisions,”
Jones said. “What that will entail we don’t know quite yet. We’ll be
moving forward in a quick way. But obviously Anthony Spencer represents
everything we want to be about. He plays hard. His leadership is
tremendous. And then on top of that, he’s a great football player.”

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...spencer-problem

[SenorGato]

Doug Free might make for interesting OL help.

I begrudge Spencer's attempts to get paid. It's unfair he should take up a chunk of a teams cap without being a super elite player (and even then...). Players are just greedy and should stop trying to screw over owners and their friends, the fans.

Edited by SenorGato, 13 February 2013 - 12:04 PM.

[sirlancemehlot]

Doug Free might make for interesting OL help.
I begrudge Spencer's attempts to get paid. It's unfair he should take up a chunk of a teams cap without being a super elite player (and even then...). Players are just greedy and should stop trying to screw over owners and their friends, the fans.

Yeah I was offered a raise and was like " are you serious?" I'm just not worth that kind of coin! No way I was going to screw over my employers just because they wanted to keep me working for them. I told them to keep their money and offered to extend my hours and shovel the walkway when it snows. Because that's how we roll in America, maaaan.

[kelly]

The Jets have picked a defensive player with their last three
first-round draft choices. ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper suspects they'll
do it again this year with the ninth overall pick.

"I still think the front seven on the defensive side is the way to go," Kiper said Wednesday on a media conference call.

Obvious follow-up question: The Jets had one of the worst offenses last season,
so why would they draft defense? The reason is, the draft is top-heavy
with defensive linemen and linebackers, with no offensive skill players
worthy of a top-10 pick, according to many pundits.

Kiper, who believes the Jets have "so many needs," identified three
possibilities for the Jets at nine -- Oregon DE/OLB Dion Jordan, LSU DE
Barkevious Mingo and Georgia LB Alec Ogletree."(Jordan) could be the ideal edge rusher as a 3-4 outside
linebacker," Kiper said. "He can be a combo guy; you can use him up and
down. He had a great finish two years ago, when he had six sacks late in
the year. He wasn’t as dominant this year, but he was the guy you had
to identify and handle. But he has enormous upside and potential."

Kiper said Mingo is in a "similar category" as Jordan because his
production tailed off last season, adding, "He didn't play as dominant
football this year as he did last year, but he's got an awful lot of
ability." Kiper called Ogletree a versatile playmaker whose stock is
rising."It’s going to be hard to pass one of those linebacker-types up," he said.

Here's the issue :

All three players are questionable scheme fits for
the Jets. In his 3-4 scheme, Rex Ryan prefers the defensive ends to be
290-plus pounds and he likes his outside linebackers in the 255-to-265
range. At 6-foot-6, 243 pounds, Jordan is built like a basketball
player. Mingo is 6-foot-4, 240 pounds and Ogletree is 6-foot-3, 234
pounds.

The Jets also are in the market for a quarterback. No quarterback is worthy of the ninth pick, according to Kiper and many draft experts. Kiper mentioned three late-round possibilities for the Jets -- Zak Dysert
(Miami, Ohio), Sean Renfree (Duke) and Brad Sorensen (Southern Utah).

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...rs-crystal-ball

[Joe Jets fan]

Matt Moore is the only realistic guy on that list. Maybe Bush, but probably not.

Jets have absolutely no business at all going after RFAs this year. They need to draft players with their picks, not trade them for much more expensive free agents. Can't imagine the Jets being able to afford Spencer, either, forget whether he's worth it or not.

 

 

edited    read before i type next time

Edited by Joe Jets fan, 14 February 2013 - 12:52 PM.

[kelly]

8 in the Box : Must-keep free agents

 

Welcome to "Eight in the Box," a new NFL Nation feature that will
appear each Friday during the offseason. This week’s topic: Which free
agent is essential for each team to keep from its 2012 roster ?
Buffalo Bills : Safety Jairus Byrd. The Bills are undergoing a defensive makeover. They recently released three veterans on defense -- Nick Barnett, George Wilson and Terrence McGee
-- but Buffalo cannot lose Byrd. He is Buffalo’s best defensive
playmaker. Byrd has 18 interceptions and 10 forced fumbles in the past
four seasons; he will get a lot of interest if he hits the open market.
But Buffalo most likely will use the franchise tag if both sides cannot reach a long-term agreement.
Miami Dolphins: Wide receiver Brian Hartline.
The Dolphins have various quality free agents. But out of a deep group,
Hartline would be the most important. Miami needs to add receivers, not
lose them. Hartline led Miami in receptions (74) and yards (1,083) last
season. The Dolphins will look to sign a true No. 1 receiver, possibly Greg Jennings or Mike Wallace. Re-signing Hartline would be a solid No. 2 option. As usual, it's going to come down to money.
New England Patriots: Wide receiver Wes Welker. The Patriots have several important free agents. Sebastian Vollmer is a top right tackle. Aqib Talib
is easily New England’s best cover corner. However, none of them
matches up to the production of Welker. He is the glue that makes New
England's offense work. He recorded his fifth 100-catch season for the
Patriots, and it's hard to see anyone making up for that kind of
production. It's probably a 50-50 chance Welker stays. The Patriots have
played hardball with Welker for more than a year now and most likely
won't overpay to keep him.
New York Jets: Tight end Dustin Keller.
Keller is not New York's best free agent, but he is the most important.
New York's passing game was mostly horrendous last season without
Keller in the lineup as the quarterback's safety valve. Keller missed
eight games due to injury in 2012 and had a career-low 28 receptions. He
should be more affordable after a down season, which is good news for
the salary cap-strapped Jets. Safety LaRon Landry made the Pro Bowl last

season and is New York's best free agent. But the Jets' defense was fine

before Landry and should be fine after. The same can't be said for New

York's offense without Keller.

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...eep-free-agents

[jorge o8]

we ned to keep our oline, ducasse needs to go and go fast we draft K. Long in the 2nd and keep Moore for a year .Howard played well, a season as a starter will be good for him and we can sing him for cheap now and draft a backup in later rounds

[SenorGato]

Dwight Freeney is going to hit FA. I would be a little interested if he's not asking for big money.

[kelly]

Dwight Freeney to Jets is a pipe dream

Former Indianapolis Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney says it would be great to play in New York, either as a member of the Giants or the Jets.

"Big Blue" seems reasonable, considering the Giants’ love for
pass-rushers. But Freeney to the Jets is nothing more than a pipe dream.

The Jets just barely got under the cap this week by cutting five veterans.
How are they going to afford a seven-time Pro Bowler like Freeney? The
Jets most likely can't afford their own free-agent Pro Bowler: safety LaRon Landry.

In addition, Freeney doesn't fit well in a 3-4 defense the Jets
mostly run under head coach Rex Ryan. That is one of the reasons the
Colts let go of Freeney.

Freeney says he's likes Ryan. That's par for the course with many
players, because Ryan is charismatic and very much a players' coach.
However, new general manager John Idzik is making the Jets' decisions,
and the money and scheme don't match.

The Jets are in the middle of a long, hard rebuild. Spending the
little cap room they currently have on an aging pass-rusher doesn't make
a lot of sense. The Jets need to get younger, not older.

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...is-a-pipe-dream

[SenorGato]

I read somewhere that Geoff Schwartz has dealt with hip problems after hip surgery. Otherwise he sounds like an excellent player to target. 

[SenorGato]

Pauline wrote on his blog that the Jets are interested in the Texans' S/DB Glover Quin. The obvious problem is that, like any player the Jets will target, he's not going to be easy to land. The Texans will probably be able to outsmart the Jets with their super special Hansel tactics.

Edited by SenorGato, 25 February 2013 - 01:45 AM.

[kelly]

Changes in Atlanta as 3 key players are out

 

The Atlanta Falcons started their youth movement Friday by ditching
three key players from the most successful era in franchise history.

The Falcons released running back Michael Turner, defensive end John
Abraham and cornerback Dunta Robinson, moves that were not unexpected
given their age (all in their 30s) and hefty salaries.

 

~ ~ The 30-year-old Robinson signed with Atlanta in 2010 and became a steady
figure in the secondary, known especially for his bruising hits.

 

rest of above article :
> http://jacksonville....tm_content=ESPN

 

 

 

* * ok ,..how 'bout this ;...we trade revis ( for draft picks and/or players ) & sign robinson....

[SenorGato]

I always liked Dunta. Another CB/S/DB candidate?

[Greenseed4]

Dwight Freeney to Jets is a pipe dream

Former Indianapolis Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney says it would be great to play in New York, either as a member of the Giants or the Jets.

"Big Blue" seems reasonable, considering the Giants’ love for
pass-rushers. But Freeney to the Jets is nothing more than a pipe dream.

The Jets just barely got under the cap this week by cutting five veterans.
How are they going to afford a seven-time Pro Bowler like Freeney? The
Jets most likely can't afford their own free-agent Pro Bowler: safety LaRon Landry.

In addition, Freeney doesn't fit well in a 3-4 defense the Jets
mostly run under head coach Rex Ryan. That is one of the reasons the
Colts let go of Freeney.

Freeney says he's likes Ryan. That's par for the course with many
players, because Ryan is charismatic and very much a players' coach.
However, new general manager John Idzik is making the Jets' decisions,
and the money and scheme don't match.

The Jets are in the middle of a long, hard rebuild. Spending the
little cap room they currently have on an aging pass-rusher doesn't make
a lot of sense. The Jets need to get younger, not older.

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...is-a-pipe-dream

 

The timing of this post was brilliant Kelly! 

[kelly]

I always liked Dunta. Another CB/S/DB candidate?

i always liked him as well.

if he can control his temper ; he can be a productive player & help us.

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~

[SenorGato]

Yeah I was offered a raise and was like " are you serious?" I'm just not worth that kind of coin! No way I was going to screw over my employers just because they wanted to keep me working for them. I told them to keep their money and offered to extend my hours and shovel the walkway when it snows. Because that's how we roll in America, maaaan.

 

Sucks that someone so selfless is not playing in the NFL. I bet every FA is going to try to screw over mine and our friend, Mr. Johnson, for money. If he won't do it then they'll just try one of my 31 other owner friends. None of those guys is self made like my friends the owners, and none work as hard. If they DID, maybe they would own a team themselves and earn my loyalty 

[kelly]

No surprise : Jets don't play tag

 

From the no-brainer department: The Jets opted not to use their franchise tag

before the 4 p.m. deadline.

There had been some faint rumblings they'd use the tag on tight end Dustin Keller,
but that would've cost them $6.066 million, eating up a nice chunk of
valuable cap space. Personally, I think the Jets should try to re-sign
Keller -- he'd be a good fit in Marty Mornhinweg's West Coast offense --
but they will let him hit the open market. Except for a
scouting-combine meeting with his agent and the Jets, Keller hasn't
heard a thing from the team about its plans for him.

The only other candidate for the franchise tag would've been safety LaRon Landry,

but his one-year contract included a clause that prohibited the Jets from applying

the tag to him.

Only eight teams opted to use the tag, down from a record 21 last
year. In terms of supply and demand, the low number bodes well for the
Jets, who will have a better chance of retaining some of their own
players. There will be less demand for them in a deeper unrestricted
market.

The Jets have seven key starters headed to unrestricted free agency :

Landry, Keller, DT Mike DeVito, RB Shonn Greene, RG Brandon Moore,

LG Matt Slauson and S Yeremiah Bell.

The list of franchise tags :

• Chiefs T Branden Albert

• Bills S Jairus Byrd

• Broncos T Ryan Clady

• Bengals DE Michael Johnson

• Colts P Pat McAfee

• Bears DT Henry Melton

• Cowboys DE/LB Anthony Spencer

• Dolphins DT Randy Starks

 

> http://espn.go.com/b...s-dont-play-tag