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#1 Integrity28

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:19 AM

Mark Sanchez: C-
We got 2 decent years and 2 playoff runs out of him, which is more than some first round QBs do in a career. Mark isn't responsible for his stupid contract, but he is responsible for digressing over his 2nd two years. He may not be a completely lost cause yet, so I bumped him up from D for that.

Santonio Holmes: D+
Selfish. Doesn't run good routes. Clearly not a positive addition to the locker room, team chemistry. Bailed on the team 2 years ago, hurt this year, also the recipient of a team crippling contract.

Plaxico Burress: F
Not with the team. Divisive when he was here, brought out the worst in Holmes.

John Conner: F
Not with the team. Wasted a draft pick on a FB that couldn't even stay in the lineup at one of the positions that has the highest success rate of transitioning from college to pro.

Tony Sporano: F
Couldn't do ANYTHING with the offense. Worse than Schotty.

Quinton Coples: C
Took a while, but he came on at the end of the season. Remains to be seen if he can become a full-time starter, and difference maker.

Muhammed Wilkerson: A
He's matriculated successfully and become a difference maker for the team.

Derrick Mason: F
He didn't catch 100 passes. He paid the price for unwelcome constructive criticism.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:28 AM

Mark Sanchez: C-
We got 2 decent years and 2 playoff runs out of him, which is more than some first round QBs do in a career. Mark isn't responsible for his stupid contract, but he is responsible for digressing over his 2nd two years. He may not be a completely lost cause yet, so I bumped him up from D for that.

Santonio Holmes: D+
Selfish. Doesn't run good routes. Clearly not a positive addition to the locker room, team chemistry. Bailed on the team 2 years ago, hurt this year, also the recipient of a team crippling contract.

Plaxico Burress: F
Not with the team. Divisive when he was here, brought out the worst in Holmes.

John Conner: F
Not with the team. Wasted a draft pick on a FB that couldn't even stay in the lineup at one of the positions that has the highest success rate of transitioning from college to pro.

Tony Sporano: F
Couldn't do ANYTHING with the offense. Worse than Schotty.

Quinton Coples: C
Took a while, but he came on at the end of the season. Remains to be seen if he can become a full-time starter, and difference maker.

Muhammed Wilkerson: A
He's matriculated successfully and become a difference maker for the team.


I don't see how Plax gets an F. He didn't cost much and was a nice red zone target. Blaming Santiono's actions on him isn't fair.

And I have to give Coples a higher grade as well. He led the team in sacks....grading him on a rookie curve he gets a B in my book. Getting him on a Terry Bradway draft curve, he gets an A lol.

And I am not sold that Sanchez was the hand picked selection by Rex. Sure he was on board with it but there is no way Tanny makes the pick just because Rex hand selected him. Tanny pays the price for that one. And I give Mark a D-.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

how are any of these Rex's hand picked selections? hes the HC not the GM. John conner maybe was a hand picked selection. But he's paid to coach the players not pick em out.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

And who was the WR from the Ravens who ruined the receiving corps in 2011 that they let go of? The one who Rex said would catch a hundred passes?
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

I don't see how Plax gets an F. He didn't cost much and was a nice red zone target. Blaming Santiono's actions on him isn't fair.

And I have to give Coples a higher grade as well. He led the team in sacks....grading him on a rookie curve he gets a B in my book. Getting him on a Terry Bradway draft curve, he gets an A lol.

And I am not sold that Sanchez was the hand picked selection by Rex. Sure he was on board with it but there is no way Tanny makes the pick just because Rex hand selected him. Tanny pays the price for that one. And I give Mark a D-.


Plaxico and Holmes became divisive together. I'm not blaming Plax for Holmes actions, but I am saying that Plax's presence made Holmes more detrimental as a non-team guy.

I see your point on Coples too, but I want to see him as an every down guy before I get too psyched. Not hard to lead this team in sacks, when we've got nobody who can get to the QB.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

And who was the WR from the Ravens who ruined the receiving corps in 2011 that they let go of? The one who Rex said would catch a hundred passes?


Mason, nice. I just added him... another F
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

how are any of these Rex's hand picked selections? hes the HC not the GM. John conner maybe was a hand picked selection. But he's paid to coach the players not pick em out.


Rex is on-record stating he hand-picked all of these individuals or that they were "his guy". You don't think Rex has had input into player/coach selection, then you haven't been paying attention.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:42 AM

Not sure how many of these are all Rex, including Coples -who I'd rate higher than a C- but no doubt that Rex should have his influence in grocery shopping limited, and he should be left to focus exclusively on coaching.

Hopefully new GM comes in and puts together a new offensive staff on his own, and puts his own stamp on the team's personnel from day one. A strong GM, one capable of being Rex's boss, is what's needed here.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

Or Rex just thinks he needs to talk up any player given to him??
I will not believe that the GM had no input picking any of these players. Guess we will see with a new GM.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

I-28, and even though we can't know whether or not DuCasse was or wasn't a Rex idea or not, one thing we DO know is that KEEPING him and making him another one of his failed pet projects (Like Vern) was....and still IS
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

Sign this beast long term! Screw a GM, give Rex total control!
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:51 AM

I-28, and even though we can't know whether or not DuCasse was or wasn't a Rex idea or not, one thing we DO know is that KEEPING him and making him another one of his failed pet projects (Like Vern) was....and still IS


vlad's gonna start next year. and he actually played ok this year. to compare him to vernon is way off base.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:51 AM

Also, Wayne Hunter in 2011...Rex Ryan was the one who believed in him, said that he "graded out" so well after Woody went down the last few games of 2010-THAT was a gigantic Rex failure bro-you have to include guys who the HC believed in, who he ultimately put ON his team...remember it still is the head coach's team, he's the one who says who will suit up every week....how about Joe McKnight over Woodhead-another busteroo IMO....
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

vlad's gonna start next year. and he actually played ok this year. to compare him to vernon is way off base.


You wouldn't want to put the house on a bet like that one Matt...they've been saying that since they drafted him
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

Sanchez didnt digress. He regressed.

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Tony Sporano= Tony Sparano. I'll give you a pass for this one since he was barely here and was invisible.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:59 AM

Don't forget Rex's hand picked QB coach-Matt Cavanaugh F

Don't forget Rex's mutated system of picking captains (arbitrarily) F
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:03 AM

Rex does a great job picking out his outfits and his costumes for press conferences.

And he has nice teeth and dreamy eyes.

Plus he loves snacks.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

You wouldn't want to put the house on a bet like that one Matt...they've been saying that since they drafted him


He played 40% or more of the snaps this year and Slaus/Moore are free agents. He's gonna start dude.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:18 AM

How do we know who was hand picked?
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:25 AM

Bart Scott: B- Two good years, two bad years. Was never worth the contract.

Jim Leonhard: C+ Good leader, part of great defenses, but him and Eric Smith in the backfield was like watching football from the 50's.


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:27 AM

How do we know who was hand picked?


He claimed Conner, Sparano, Bart, Coples, Holmes and Mason were his picks. Plax was technically Tannenbaum's pick--him and Woody visited him in prison in 09.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:27 AM

Worst thread ever.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

Mark Sanchez: C-
We got 2 decent years and 2 playoff runs out of him, which is more than some first round QBs do in a career. Mark isn't responsible for his stupid contract, but he is responsible for digressing over his 2nd two years. He may not be a completely lost cause yet, so I bumped him up from D for that.

Santonio Holmes: D+
Selfish. Doesn't run good routes. Clearly not a positive addition to the locker room, team chemistry. Bailed on the team 2 years ago, hurt this year, also the recipient of a team crippling contract.

Plaxico Burress: F
Not with the team. Divisive when he was here, brought out the worst in Holmes.

John Conner: F
Not with the team. Wasted a draft pick on a FB that couldn't even stay in the lineup at one of the positions that has the highest success rate of transitioning from college to pro.

Tony Sporano: F
Couldn't do ANYTHING with the offense. Worse than Schotty.

Quinton Coples: C
Took a while, but he came on at the end of the season. Remains to be seen if he can become a full-time starter, and difference maker.

Muhammed Wilkerson: A
He's matriculated successfully and become a difference maker for the team.

Derrick Mason: F
He didn't catch 100 passes. He paid the price for unwelcome constructive criticism.


Don't know if any of these were handpicked by Rex, I think Rex had input on them and that it was Tannenbaum who pulled the trigger. I think getting Tebow was a direct order from publicity hound Woody. That said,

* I would give Santonio Holmes an F. He is a cancer in the locker room, and the only productive season he's had was when BRaylon Edwards was on the other side.
* I would give John Connor a B. When he was healthy, he was a punishing blocker and during the year that the Jets went to the AFC title game and lost ot the Steelers, did play a part in a successful running game.
*I would give Plaxico Burress a B, and I totally disagree with you on that one. He came in for one season and did what he was supposed to: he caught 8 TDs and was a red zone threat. While he didn't replace Bray, he did what he was supposed to do.
* I would give Quinton Coples an A. I think he is on track with Wilkerson to become a difference maker. He played for a lousy team and at the end fo the season, helped give the Jets something they have sorely lacked for like 5 seasons now, which is a pass rush.
* Sanchez gets an F for reasons we have all stated on this forum many times.
* You forgot about former Raven Bart Scott, who might not be with the team. I would give him a D, which I bumped down from a C because of his salary.
Agree with you on Derrick Mason and not enough can be said about Sporano's incompetence this past season
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

Worst thread ever.


Really? I think it's a great thread and gives us SOMETHING to talk about. So who is going to start the Woody Rex PC thread? Now there should be some pretty good theatre from 11:00 AM on...I just cancelled SNY yesterday-I was on the phone for a half an hour just so I DIDN'T have to listen to that BS anymore
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

Really? I think it's a great thread and gives us SOMETHING to talk about. So who is going to start the Woody Rex PC thread? Now there should be some pretty good theatre from 11:00 AM on...I just cancelled SNY yesterday-I was on the phone for a half an hour just so I DIDN'T have to listen to that BS anymore

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