afosomf Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The #3 QB should be which ever QB we draft this year. The guy should have size and a strong arm with the potential to be a #1 or #2 in a couple of years. Best case would be if Hermie gets canned and takes Brooksie with him. And who should your #2 qb be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 You must have ONLY seen Bollywood in this game and missed his 5 INT game. BZ yup...b/c no 1st year starter should ever struggle...thats just ridiculous, i mean, this is the NFL for crying out loud! come on guys, get a grip, bollywood is gonna end up as pretty darn good backup,not a starter, but not CFL suck-worthy, ur just pissy cuz our team as a whole sucks. Its not his fault, and dont fault him for the last drive either bit, as has been said before im pretty sure he wasnt the one calling those plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 yup...b/c no 1st year starter should ever struggle...thats just ridiculous, i mean, this is the NFL for crying out loud! come on guys, get a grip, bollywood is gonna end up as pretty darn good backup,not a starter, but not CFL suck-worthy, ur just pissy cuz our team as a whole sucks. Its not his fault, and dont fault him for the last drive either bit, as has been said before im pretty sure he wasnt the one calling those plays People Forget That Penne was god awful his rook year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 wait...you guys read what i say?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 And who should your #2 qb be? Since Penny can't be cut due to his contract, he becomes #2. I'd sign Kitna as a free agent to be the starter next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Since Penny can't be cut due to his contract, he becomes #2. I'd sign Kitna as a free agent to be the starter next year. and maybe im the only one that remembers kitna was HORRIBLE all but one year of his career? but then again...what are our other options...phillip rivers? aaron brooks? chris wienke(lol)? maybe we should just call mr. quincy carter back up...offer him an "incentive laden" deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant Hackett Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Since Penny can't be cut due to his contract, he becomes #2. I'd sign Kitna as a free agent to be the starter next year. We can't afford to pay Penny to be a #2. He must restructure his contract or cut him and take the hit. At least the Penny issue and next season will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Since Penny can't be cut due to his contract, he becomes #2. I'd sign Kitna as a free agent to be the starter next year. that is brilliant a $64m backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudcat21 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 that is brilliant a $64m backup I didn't give him that contract. Problem is you don't really have any other choice. He counts as much on the cap if you cut him next year than if you keep him. May as well keep him for one more year to see if he ever heals up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I didn't give him that contract. Problem is you don't really have any other choice. He counts as much on the cap if you cut him next year than if you keep him. May as well keep him for one more year to see if he ever heals up. The Jets will place PennyBoy on the IR for the entire 2006 season and deal with him next year. You heard it here first. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The Jets will place PennyBoy on the IR for the entire 2006 season and deal with him next year. You heard it here first. :wink: well just stop the presses then what would be the purpose of that ( serious question here...) do they have to pay him all if he is on IR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 well just stop the presses then what would be the purpose of that ( serious question here...) do they have to pay him all if he is on IR? Players on IR receive their salary. What it will do is free up another roster position and if I'm not mistaken, PennyBoy's cap hit will be significantly less (if they release him) in 2007 versus 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikeyman3 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Players on IR receive their salary. What it will do is free up another roster position and if I'm not mistaken, PennyBoy's cap hit will be significantly less (if they release him) in 2007 versus 2006. I don't think that is correct at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikeyman3 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 From our cap guru aec4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm posting this in it's own thread so you can all see. Of course, the data I have is not 100% perfect, but based on it, here is the cap situation. Before 2004, the Jets and Pennington agreed on a 7 year, 64.2M contract. He was given an 18M signing bonus at that point, 2M roster bonus before 2005, and is due a 3M roster bonus before 2006. The 2M roster bonus was guaranteed, but the upcoming one is not. Here are his base salaries: 2004 1000000.00 2005 1000000.00 2006 6000000.00 2007 4000000.00 2008 6000000.00 2009 7000000.00 2010 6300000.00 2011 10172000.00 Since the CBA only allowed the signing bonus (18M) to be on the cap for 6 years (3M per year) because it needs to be renegotiated, here are the cap hits: 2004: 4M 2005: 6M (1M + 3M signing + 2M roster) 2006: 12M (6M + 3M signing + 3M roster) 2007: 7M 2008: 9M 2009: 10M 2010: 6.3M 2011: 10.172M Now, the real question.. cutting him, or trading him... If he's cut after the following seasons, prior to June 1, here are the details. I'm not sure of the date of the signing bonus in 2006, but most likely, it's in March, so he wouldn't be able to be cut after June 1, since w'ed have to pay the bonus.. 2006: 0 net cap hit. He's going to cost 12M on the cap regardless. Why? If he's cut, all 12M accelerates. 2007: 9M accelerates, but 7M comes off, which means it costs us 2M to cut him. Having him on the team would save us 2M 2008: 6M accelerated, but 9M comes off, saving us 3M 2009: 3M accelerates, but 9M comes off, saving us 6M 2010: 6.3M comes off, 0 accelerates 2011: 10.172M comes off, 0 accelerates In other words, if we do not cut him after this season, he's on the team thru the 2007 season My gut feeling? The contract was set up to be restructured, and even a simple restructuring (which we may not want to do) which turns 9M owed to him into bonus (stretched over only 4 seasons since that's all that would be allowed without a CBA extension) would reduce CHad's cap # from 12M to 5.25M, saving 6.75M. I bet we ask him to take some cuts, or move some money to incentives based on playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Players on IR receive their salary. What it will do is free up another roster position and if I'm not mistaken, PennyBoy's cap hit will be significantly less (if they release him) in 2007 versus 2006. i guess i was hoping for an answer from someone who might know something... but thanks for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 From our cap guru aec4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks ike for finding it and thanks ace4 for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 When the chubbies subside you will realize that Bolly is no more than a #3. He played well yesterday but he also missed some wide open receivers. He has won one game as a starter, that is what counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 He has won one game as a starter, that is what counts. and that game was gift wrapped by Al Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 and that game was gift wrapped by Al Davis. you are so f'n negative you are bringing me down Moriarty!! the kid has played very good last 2 weeks, better than penne vs KC!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 the mark of a really good QB to take it to the next level is their ability to pull out victories- many times when he and or the team really were outplayed the whole game. Bollinger is a tough QB and has some mobility that helps but he IMO will never be a starter in the NFL A decent reserve to fill in is what I see as his future- sorry jetstone just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strifec1209 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 the mark of a really good QB to take it to the next level is their ability to pull out victories- many times when he and or the team really were outplayed the whole game. Bollinger is a tough QB and has some mobility that helps but he IMO will never be a starter in the NFL A decent reserve to fill in is what I see as his future- sorry jetstone just my opinion we will see... hopefully your wrong for the Jets stake and bolly's sake but hopefully we all can agree with this Brooks Bollinger is the best 3rd string QB in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 28/42 327yds -2Td's 0 Int's Not a bad turn around. Very impressive day considering that we threw the kitchen sink at him and he sat back with excellent composure ... better than super QB Brees last week. However, I would say that he wouldn't have gotten 300 yards if not for that bogus pass interference call on 4th down;) Still, he's the first quarterback to throw 300+ yards against us in about 45 straight games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-ROCK Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 I'll tell you...I think he much better of a QB than Fiedler. . So is my Mom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt39 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Anyone who doesn't give Brooks credit today is an idiot. Period. I admitted I was wrong about Bollinger. I think some of you should as well. Admit it! Idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 holy necro batman. i think i asked in the game thread where brooks bollinger might be......... i just looked it up...apparentyl he is qb coach at university of pitt. i live in pitt. maybe i shoudl take a ride over and recruit him back to the team!! bollywood time baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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