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Mike Westhoff Rips Jets Over Tebow (MERGED)


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#1 JOJOTOWNSELL

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

one of the most respected position coaches in the NFL burying Rex....fun times


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/11/westhoff-jets-use-of-tebow-was-an-absolute-mess/


NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Tell us how you really feel, Mike.


Mike Westhoff, the recently retired Jets special teams coach, sounded off Friday on New York’s use of backup quarterback Tim Tebow.


“It was a mess,” Westhoff told WQAM radio in Miami. “It was an absolute mess. You can say however else you want, it was really a mess. I was very, very disappointed.”


Westhoff said he expected to see Tebow lined up as an all-threat running back, fullback, tight end and quarterback.



He ended up serving as a part-time — if you could call it that — quarterback and punt protector on special teams. Westhoff said Tebow’s role on his unit was “really only going to be like 1 percent.”
“Most of the stuff he did for me, he did outstanding. But it was supposed to only be a fraction — and it ended up being his only role,” Westhoff said. “That was very disappointing.”
Tebow played in 12 games for the Jets in 2012, completing six of eight passes for 39 yards. He also carried the ball 32 times for 102 yards. He didn’t score a touchdown.
Offensive coordinator Tony Sparano was fired after the season for a hapless offense that never fully incorporated Tebow. His scheme certainly never came close to what was described by Westhoff.
“I don’t think anybody’s ever answered that question. Why didn’t we do it?” said Westhoff. “I honestly don’t know. I know we didn’t practice it, we didn’t practice it in training camp.
“We were going to unveil it. Well, I’m still waiting for the unveiling.”
Westhoff said it remains “a possibility” that he’d return to the NFL.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:25 AM

Hah Mike is going out like a tiger
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

http://blogs.palmbea...-absolute-mess/

Mike Westhoff on the New York Jets’ use of Tim Tebow: ‘It was an absolute mess’

by Ben Volin


This isn’t a Dolphins item per se, but does have a lot of Florida connections: Tim Tebow, the rival Jets and now-retired special teams coach Mike Westhoff, who just retired after 27 years as an NFL special teams coordinator (15 with Miami, the last 12 with the Jets).

Westhoff was a guest Friday morning on 560 WQAM with Joe Rose, and didn’t hold back when asked about the Jets’ decision not to play Tebow much this year and the circus-like atmosphere that surrounded the team.

“It was an absolute mess,” said Westhoff, 65. “It was a distraction and really a shame, because that’s a hard-working young man.”

The Jets became the NFL’s biggest story when they traded for Tebow in March, and many people believed he would serve as a jack-of-all-trades weapon at tight end, H-back and, of course, Wildcat quarterback, particularly with Tony Sparano serving as offensive coordinator.

Westhoff believed the Jets would use Tebow in that fashion, too, but it never happened. Tebow threw just eight passes all season and was leap-frogged by Greg McElroy when Mark Sanchez missed a game due to injury. Tebow also ran just 32 times for 102 yards and zero touchdowns, and was used sparingly out of the Wildcat.

“Tim Tebow, as an NFL quarterback, he’s very limited in some things, and if you throw him right in the middle of a drop-back passing offense, he will look very, very average at best,” Westhoff said. “But if you incorporate him in different facets of your offense, I think he can be a factor. That’s what I felt we were going to do, but we never did it.”

“To be honest, I don’t think anybody’s really answered that question – why didn’t we do it? I honestly don’t know. I know we didn’t practice it, we didn’t practice it in training camp. We were going to unveil it – well, I’m still waiting for the unveiling.”

Tebow instead was relegated to special teams duty, used mostly as the “punt protector,” but Westhoff said Tebow only became a full-time special teams player when Eric Smith suffered a knee injury.
“My role with (Tebow) was really only to be 1 percent. That’s all I was thinking. Then when Eric Smith was hurt, I had to use him full time,” Westhoff said. “Most of the stuff he did for me was outstanding. But it was supposed to only be a fraction, (and) it ended up being his only role.”

Westhoff said Tebow was frustrated and downcast by the end of the season. The Jets are expected to release him this offseason if they cannot find a trading partner.
“It was a shame to see when you saw a demeanor change – you saw that swagger come out of him a little bit and that was very disheartening to see that,” Westhoff said. “I would just encourage him to keep his head up and that his opportunity would come, and a few things like that.”



Kimberley A. Martin@KMart_LI
"When ur paying a handful of guys 40% of ur salary cap, what the hell are u going to do with the rest of them?" - Westhoff on @WQAM #nyj


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Rich Cimini@RichCimini
Westhoff: After 2010, the "burden was thrust on Mark (Sanchez) + that's too much for him ... But it's more than MS's fault, believe me."



Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
Westy's the best ... RT @MMehtaNYDN: More Westhoff on why Jets got Tebow: "I honestly don’t know.... I’m still waiting for the unveiling"

Conor Orr@ConorTOrr
Westhoff calls out #Jets D. Says they were "suspect" in middle field. Says special teams would pin tms inside 20, D would let them up to 50.

Conor Orr@ConorTOrr
Westhoff said you could see a "demeanor change" and a loss of "swagger" from Tim Tebow. #nyj

Kimberly Jones@KimJonesSports
Preach. RT @RichCimini: Mike Westhoff on WQAM radio today. Says #Jets use of Tebow was "an absolute mess... a distraction & really a shame."

Alex Marvez@alexmarvez
The aforementioned mentioned Mike Westhoff interview on the @JoeRoseShow is now posted at http://wqam.com

Ian O'Connor@Ian_OConnor
Translation of Mike Westhoff interview basically reads like this: "Even I would have fired Rex after this disaster." #Jets

Kimberley A. Martin@KMart_LI
Westhy said Sparano's very quiet & was always poring over gm tape in his office. "I don't see him much...I don't even kno when he eats" #nyj

Kimberley A. Martin@KMart_LI
Westy said Sanchez was "a manageable QB" on a gd fball tm during AFC title runs. But shouldering the "burden alone "was too much" #nyj
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

Always good when one of your coordinators has no idea what the overall plan is. That speaks to good leadership from the head coach. Really coherent system they have in place there.
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#5 CrazyCarl40

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

Tim Tebow usage was an 'absolute mess' says former Jets coach Mike Westhoff



Mike Westhoff was critical of all the Jets coordinators from 2012, as well as the GM. (Photo by US Presswire)
By Conor Orr/The Star-LedgerThe Star-Ledger


Mike Westhoff, the brash, opinionated former special teams coordinator with the Jets, said the team's usage of Tim Tebow was an "absolute mess" in 2012.

Speaking on WQAM this morning, Westhoff, who plans to have a second career as a television analyst, became the first coach to speak openly about how disjointed the team's plans were regarding Tebow.

"It was a mess, it was an absolute mess. You can say whatever you want but I was very, very disappointed."

He added: "There are things with Tim Tebow as an NFL quarterback -- he's very limited in some things. If you throw him right in the middle of a drop back passing offense he will look very, very average at best, but if you incorporate him into different facets of your offense, I think he can be a factor. That's what I felt like we were going to do."

Westhoff said he expected Tebow to be used in a variety of different roles but said that the Jets never even practiced such wrinkles in the offense, even during the supposed "secret" Cortland practices.

"That was very disappointing the way it came out," Westhoff said. "I don't think anyone has ever answered that question. Why didn't we do it? I know we didn't practice it. We didn't practice it in training camp. We were going to unveil it. Well, I'm still waiting for the unveiling.

"It was a distraction and really a shame because that's a hard-working young man."

Westhoff's criticism of the team went down the line this morning and didn't spare anyone.

On the cap situation, an implication of former GM Mike Tannenbaum: "Well when you're paying a handful of guys 40 percent of your salary cap, what the hell are you going to do with the rest of them?"
On Mark Sanchez: "I believe Mark was a manageable quarterback on a good football team," Westhoff said. "We had a good defense, I had a good group on teams, we ran the ball well, we had a handful of receivers who could make big plays and Mark was thrown into those ingredients...

"Then all of a sudden the burden was thrust on Mark and that's just too much for him in my opinion. I think a whole offense needs to be designed around Mark. You can say that it was, but there are some things he just doesn't do as well...plus you still need a very good running game and special teams to complement him. And we lost that, we all lost that."

On Mike Pettine and the Jets defense: "Part of our defense, and against certain people, there were some weaknesses and people know that. On our kicking team, we led the league in tackles inside the 20, so people started back in the hole most of the time.

"But what would happen, when our defense played the long field, they were a little suspect in the middle and people drove the ball up to midfield on us. On a shorter field, our defense, because of our really good corner play, constricted and played really well and hold people. But then they would punt us and Mark Sanchez would start on the 10-yard line.' There's plenty of blame to go around."
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#6 Ryno the Jet

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:42 AM

Train wreck!

So this is just further proof that the Jets are an absolute disaster!

I sure hope Rex learns a lot in a very short period of time. Unfortunately, hope does not beget optimism in this instance.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:43 AM

Yeah leadership from Rex -nonexistent damming evidence
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

His insight was refreshing...
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:50 AM

Shocking revelation here. Wow!!!

Totally ripped the Jets too. I mean blasted them!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:54 AM

Shocking revelation here. Wow!!!

Totally ripped the Jets too. I mean blasted them!


No mention of Rex Ryan though, so his hands are clean! This means super splendid things for the future!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:01 AM

he makes decent points but special teams weren't that special for the last 2 years.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

Mike should have been asked about how well his unit did ? But then that would get in the way of some ole fashioned bashing of this team!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:21 AM

he makes decent points but special teams weren't that special for the last 2 years.


What ST coaches are out there that would be an upgrade to MW?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

One thing is apparant. Mike Westhoff watched the same games we did last season.

What a tounge lashing.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

he makes decent points but special teams weren't that special for the last 2 years.


Well, led the league in tackles inside the 20, but I'm guessing that's also including punts due to our inept offense.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

What ST coaches are out there that would be an upgrade to MW?


ben kotwitka obviously
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:39 AM

ben kotwitka obviously


How is that an upgrade?
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:05 PM

How is that an upgrade?


all changes are upgrades. every time a Jets employee gets fired, an angel gets it's wings.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Westhoff needs to put on big boy pants or something. How dare he be unhappy with failure!! 1
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

Lost a lot of credibility when he started to big up the ST performances, they were ****ing dreadful.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

Sounds like Westoff liked Tebow better than anyone else on the staff.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

There goes that theory that Tebow stunk in practice. More like Rex and Tony never wanted the guy and never planned on using him.
I'm not a Tebow fan, but damn, it makes it hard for anybody to want to come to the Jets as long as Rex is around.

It also kind of means a new GM can't do anything this year as long as Rex is around. Bring in some young QB, and if Rex doesn't like him or want him, he'll never play. Bring in some young players and Rex doesn't like them or want them, they'll never play. Yeah makes it the place to be for some up and coming GM. Makes it the place to be for some assistant coaches.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:45 PM

This is called spitting on the hand that fed you when that hand could have thrown you out on the streets based on job performance!

Ungrateful bastid!

Edited by JetsFanInDenver, 11 January 2013 - 01:04 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Transparent attempt to create some controversy in order to drum up interest in a career in media. At one point he said "here.. here's another one" as if his objective was to get out as many controversial topics in a short span as he could.

Woody did it, LT did it, now Mike is doing it.

Most of his griping was surrounding an OC who was fired and a QB who will be cut.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:51 PM

Transparent attempt to create some controversy in order to drum up interest in a career in media. At one point he said "here.. here's another one" as if his objective was to get out as many controversial topics in a short span as he could.

Woody did it, LT did it, now Mike is doing it.

Most of his griping was surrounding an OC who was fired and a QB who will be cut.


So careers in media are made by complaining? Interesting
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