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Is there a realistic path to 10 wins in 2013?

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As bleak as things look right now, is there any way (short of stealing the rights to Aaron Rodgers) that this Jets team can get to ten wins? As of right now, it's Rex and Sanchez and pray for the healthy return of Darrelle Revis.

Maybe if they get the killer pass rusher in the draft, and Matt Moore meshes with the OC-to-be-named-later, and if the new DC is a savant, etc etc... What would have to happen between now and next August for us to compete?

Or, as seems to be the common wisdom, are the 2013 Jets already doomed?

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I hope new GM, whoever he may be, comes in taking the long view. If he does, 10 wins next season comes as a result of a hungry young roster and quite a bit of luck - but it probably doesn't come at all.

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As bleak as things look right now, is there any way (short of stealing the rights to Aaron Rodgers) that this Jets team can get to ten wins? As of right now, it's Rex and Sanchez and pray for the healthy return of Darrelle Revis.

Maybe if they get the killer pass rusher in the draft, and Matt Moore meshes with the OC-to-be-named-later, and if the new DC is a savant, etc etc... What would have to happen between now and next August for us to compete?

Or, as seems to be the common wisdom, are the 2013 Jets already doomed?

Yes, there is a path to 10 wins - the key for Rex & Jets is to get back to the formula that made them successful on '09 & '10.

1 - Rebuild the OL - I don't care what stats bitonti throws out, this line sucked. Use the first 2 draft picks on OG, RT. I would target Warmack from Alabama who is an absolute beast.

2 - The defense improves next season. Revis is back, Scott, Pace, Thomas, and E Smith are gone. Time for Rex to earn his money with new faces but the defense needs to improve.

3 - Stop turning the ball over (especially in the red zone) - this one is simple. most likely that means Sanchez needs to sit on the bench but without that much offensive firepower the Jets cannot afford to turn it over 2-3 times / game.

4 - 2 words, game manager. I don't care if it's A Smith, Matt Moore, McElroy, etc... Basically, anyone but Sanchez and preferably someone who has a little mobility.

Great OL + good defense + game manager = 10 wins.

That formula may not win the super bowl next year but 10 wins is certainly realistic.

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Definitely. There is definitely such a path.

Sanchez' stats were BRUTAL last year and we lost our 2 biggest impact players in Revis and Holmes. If you think about it, it's amazing we can win 6 with Sanchez playing as bad as he did. If we were healthy and had even a mediocre QB like Matt Flynn or Matt Moore, we probably would have won 9 last season anyway. Just remember how bad Sanchez was, there were at least 3 games that he lost for us single-handedly.

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Or, as seems to be the common wisdom, are the 2013 Jets already doomed?

Can't it be both? I mean, you have to be talking about a pretty severely talent deficient team to say that ten wins isn't even a realistic possibility. At the same time, we're screwed for the foreseeable future because the organization is just a total debacle.

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As bleak as things look right now, is there any way (short of stealing the rights to Aaron Rodgers) that this Jets team can get to ten wins? As of right now, it's Rex and Sanchez and pray for the healthy return of Darrelle Revis.

Maybe if they get the killer pass rusher in the draft, and Matt Moore meshes with the OC-to-be-named-later, and if the new DC is a savant, etc etc... What would have to happen between now and next August for us to compete?

Or, as seems to be the common wisdom, are the 2013 Jets already doomed?

They could move to the CFL and almost be dominent if they could get a competant QB.

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Yes, there is a path to 10 wins - the key for Rex & Jets is to get back to the formula that made them successful on '09 & '10.

1 - Rebuild the OL - I don't care what stats bitonti throws out, this line sucked. Use the first 2 draft picks on OG, RT. I would target Warmack from Alabama who is an absolute beast.

2 - The defense improves next season. Revis is back, Scott, Pace, Thomas, and E Smith are gone. Time for Rex to earn his money with new faces but the defense needs to improve.

3 - Stop turning the ball over (especially in the red zone) - this one is simple. most likely that means Sanchez needs to sit on the bench but without that much offensive firepower the Jets cannot afford to turn it over 2-3 times / game.

4 - 2 words, game manager. I don't care if it's A Smith, Matt Moore, McElroy, etc... Basically, anyone but Sanchez and preferably someone who has a little mobility.

Great OL + good defense + game manager = 10 wins.

That formula may not win the super bowl next year but 10 wins is certainly realistic.

Too many holes. Remember when they coded al the plays by color for Sanchez so he would know which were the one he had to be most careful about. It actually worked for a year. The plan could not keep him from fumbling, ever, but it worked for the rest of that year. He just kept geting worse and worse. Your plan sounds feasible, but we can never compile all the talent that needs replacing in an offseason, unless we trade some chips for multiple picks.

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1 - Rebuild the OL - I don't care what stats bitonti throws out, this line sucked.

PFF has the Jets as their 5th rated OL in the league. It's not just me saying the line is good. By the way preprare yourself for the Jets RFA tendering Austin Howard. on a team with only 10 starters under contract, that's a cheap way for an 11th. Whoever the next GM is gonna do it. So just be ready.

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Yes, there is a path to 10 wins - the key for Rex & Jets is to get back to the formula that made them successful on '09 & '10.

1 - Rebuild the OL - I don't care what stats bitonti throws out, this line sucked. Use the first 2 draft picks on OG, RT. I would target Warmack from Alabama who is an absolute beast.

2 - The defense improves next season. Revis is back, Scott, Pace, Thomas, and E Smith are gone. Time for Rex to earn his money with new faces but the defense needs to improve.

3 - Stop turning the ball over (especially in the red zone) - this one is simple. most likely that means Sanchez needs to sit on the bench but without that much offensive firepower the Jets cannot afford to turn it over 2-3 times / game.

4 - 2 words, game manager. I don't care if it's A Smith, Matt Moore, McElroy, etc... Basically, anyone but Sanchez and preferably someone who has a little mobility.

Great OL + good defense + game manager = 10 wins.

That formula may not win the super bowl next year but 10 wins is certainly realistic.

Agree with all of this, but the cap is going to ensure very few returning vets in 3013

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Yes, there is a path to 10 wins - the key for Rex & Jets is to get back to the formula that made them successful on '09 & '10.

1 - Rebuild the OL - I don't care what stats bitonti throws out, this line sucked. Use the first 2 draft picks on OG, RT. I would target Warmack from Alabama who is an absolute beast.

2 - The defense improves next season. Revis is back, Scott, Pace, Thomas, and E Smith are gone. Time for Rex to earn his money with new faces but the defense needs to improve.

3 - Stop turning the ball over (especially in the red zone) - this one is simple. most likely that means Sanchez needs to sit on the bench but without that much offensive firepower the Jets cannot afford to turn it over 2-3 times / game.

4 - 2 words, game manager. I don't care if it's A Smith, Matt Moore, McElroy, etc... Basically, anyone but Sanchez and preferably someone who has a little mobility.

Great OL + good defense + game manager = 10 wins.

That formula may not win the super bowl next year but 10 wins is certainly realistic.

Also, agree most that Bitonti is out of mind when he defends this oline. He's going full ghoulston on that one.

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Need a Colts like draft with the offense. Warmack, if there, is a no brainer. Easier to fix the running game first than the passing game.

The offense has zero good players.

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1 - Rebuild the OL - I don't care what stats bitonti throws out, this line sucked. Use the first 2 draft picks on OG, RT. I would target Warmack from Alabama who is an absolute beast.

2 - The defense improves next season. Revis is back, Scott, Pace, Thomas, and E Smith are gone. Time for Rex to earn his money with new faces but the defense needs to improve.

The #9 overall pick is way too early to draft either a guard or a RT, especially in a draft that's supposed to be rich in pass rushers - a much bigger need than OL. There's also no guarantee that Revis is back in 2013, and if he is Cromartie is probably gone. Making that pass rusher even more important.

Either way, the Jets need to BAP their way right thru the draft.

Agree with all of this, but the cap is going to ensure very few returning vets in 3013

This is true. I expect the 3013 team to look a lot different than this one.

Also, agree most that Bitonti is out of mind when he defends this oline. He's going full ghoulston on that one.

Bit's using unbiased data when assessing the Jets' OL, and he's right. It's still one of the better OLs in the league. The Jets have nothing at QB or RB, that's the problem. Fix one or both of those, and all of a sudden this OL looks pretty damn good. Yeah, they should look to get younger on the OL, and draft OL when they reach the top of their draft board, but forcing picks is always the road to a bad draft.

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