Skeet Ulrich Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 A smart team who wants a good to great player to plug into the middle of their defense for the next ten years. This does not impact his draft status at all. Not saying anyone is past having a bad day, but he looked BAD in the BCSNCG. SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW and bad instincts. Didn't really see a top 10 type pick there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I wonder which patriot* intern is behind the "girlfriend" ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Want a cookie? Chocolate chip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Chocolate chip? Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Chocolate chip? Pfft. Oatmeal Raisin. Or Samoas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not saying anyone is past having a bad day, but he looked BAD in the BCSNCG. SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW and bad instincts. Didn't really see a top 10 type pick there. In one game. Every other game he looked quick and showed great instincts. There is a reason Kiper and mcShay both still have him top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 In one game. Every other game he looked quick and showed great instincts. There is a reason Kiper and mcShay both still have him top ten. Might drop now. Since you seem to believe his story I'd have to question his "instincts" and if he's telling the truth it's safe to assume his Wonderlic will be right around a 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Might drop now. Since you seem to believe his story I'd have to question his "instincts" and if he's telling the truth it's safe to assume his Wonderlic will be right around a 5. I'm inclined to believe his story because ND stuck their necks way out. McShay has already stated that he doesn't expect him to drop. Lawrence Phillips beat his girlfriend and still got drafted number 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm inclined to believe his story because ND stuck their necks way out. McShay has already stated that he doesn't expect him to drop. Lawrence Phillips beat his girlfriend and still got drafted number 6. That worked out well for the Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 In one game. Every other game he looked quick and showed great instincts. There is a reason Kiper and mcShay both still have him top ten. That's fair, I'm not going to pretend I saw every ND game. Still, at the VERY best, he's extraordinarily gullible and a pathological liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 That worked out well for the Rams How he fared in the NFL has nothing to do with Te'o. I used him as an example of someone with an issue (obviously much more serious) and still being drafted high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 That's fair, I'm not going to pretend I saw every ND game. Still, at the VERY best, he's extraordinarily gullible and a pathological liar. What do either of those inaccurate claims have to do with being a successful football player? Oh that's right, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 either of those inaccurate claims I think he meant "or," not "and." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Teo caught some tipped passes for ints and immediately fell down and somehow was a Heisman candidate. I've watched a lot of ND games and he isnt that good. Slow footed that benefited from two very good DT's in front of him. As far as this stupid story he's a total loser as is his father and all of these intangibles and leadership qualities immediately goes out the window. Attention whoring to this level is becoming more and more common for that twiiter/facebook generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Teo caught some tipped passes for ints and immediately fell down and somehow was a Heisman candidate. I've watched a lot of ND games and he isnt that good. Slow footed that benefited from two very good DT's in front of him. As far as this stupid story he's a total loser as is his father and all of these intangibles and leadership qualities immediately goes out the window. Attention whoring to this level is becoming more and more common for that twiiter/facebook generation. So message board Matt is right and thousands of professional college scouts are wrong? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So message board Matt is right and thousands of professional college scouts are wrong? Got it. College scouts are wrong all the time. He's a two down run stopping linebacker in a league that's passing over 60% of the time now. All the intangible nonsense that ppl fell in love with is now completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 College scouts are wrong all the time. He's a two down run stopping linebacker in a league that's passing over 60% of the time now. All the intangible nonsense that ppl fall in love with is now completely irrelevant. Not sure how it's irrelevant. He is still a leader and a guy who makes those around him better. He works hard. And he's great in coverage and can play all three downs. I don't know where you got that. He had like 7 interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyOB7 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 kid should come clean, one way or another the truth is coming out. The longer he waits to tell the truth the worse it will be for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not sure how it's irrelevant. He is still a leader and a guy who makes those around him better. He works hard. And he's great in coverage and can play all three downs. I don't know where you got that. He had like 7 interceptions. He's slow as sh*t. They played sh*tty slow ass teams all season. More than half of his int's were off of tipped passes. None of which were returned. How does Teo make people better? Are you kidding me with this nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not sure how it's irrelevant. He is still a leader and a guy who makes those around him better. He works hard. And he's great in coverage and can play all three downs. I don't know where you got that. He had like 7 interceptions. Give it up. His stock was dropping after the Bama game already, he was God awful. A lot of his hype and his inspirational leader BS was based of his overcoming of made up adversity. Adversity that he either made up, or was so unbelievably dumb he fell for. Either way, big red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He's slow as sh*t. They played sh*tty slow ass teams all season. More than half of his int's were off of tipped passes. None of which were returned. How does Teo make people better? Are you kidding me with this nonsense? Well. Since you have nothing to actually say, I suppose we shall just wait and see what happens when he goes first round and is a solid player for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Give it up. His stock was dropping after the Bama game already, he was God awful. A lot of his hype and his inspirational leader BS was based of his overcoming of made up adversity. Adversity that he either made up, or was so unbelievable dumb he fell for. Either way, big red flag. Yet two well respected guys still have him top ten and that was after the Bama game. His only bad game this season. You might as well give it up because I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yet two well respected guys still have him top ten and that was after the Bama game. His only bad game this season. You might as well give it up because I won't. What were his standout games and what were his big game changing plays he made? I mean for christs sakes these are his "highlights" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfkFuJDPd4 His whole career was a hoax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yet two well respected guys still have him top ten and that was after the Bama game. His only bad game this season. You might as well give it up because I won't. You're talking Mel Kiper and Todd McShay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 What were his standout games and what were his big game changing plays he made? I mean for christs sakes these are his "highlights" His whole career was a hoax Breaking news, MLB isn't a glamour defensive position. He makes plays. That's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You're talking Mel Kiper and Todd McShay? Yes. Those two specifically. There are many others though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Breaking news, MLB isn't a glamour defensive position. He makes plays. That's all that matters. I don't know. Before this year, it was almost like he wasn't on the radar. Suddenly the media kisses ND behinds, kisses this kids behind, and he's a heisman candidate. Does he have talent? Yes. But this story is just bizarre in every which way. Lots of athletes falter to the pressures once they become professional. This story make everybody seem stupid. Seem fake. Seem off their rockers. It's like one big cover up for some stupid reason. It was almost like everybody knew this girl was fake and decided to run with it. If this story came out back in Sept or early October, it could be one of those "damn i got played." But people went on TV, they went on ESPN, it was in magazines and newspapers. The Media ran with the story. Te'o ran with the story. Notre Dame ran with it. His own family ran with it. Tons of sympathy and support from around the country. And even after it seems people found out, they hid the truth for weeks, and who knows if they ever would have said anything if this story wasn't released by a site nobody gives any credence to. And it will change his draft status. Teams always look at these things and suddenly pass. Randy Moss had certain issues. Dropped. Whatever reason Aaron Rodgers fell was a reason. Dan Mariano was thought to be a little dumb, so teams passed. However this story plays out, it's obvios Te'o has a ton of issues that could make him the kind of NFL player who is out of the NFL after a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So much is wrong and factually incorrect with the above post that I'm not going to waste my time breaking it all down and making you look silly. Te'o was heavily recruited, he's been the best player on some bad teams and was the best player on a really good team. Players do drop and maybe Te'o will, but he'll still be picked in the first round because NFL teams don't care about this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If it helps, I've been f#cking imaginary women for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If it helps, I've been f#cking imaginary women for years. Does it make your feelings for them any less real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 With Te'o's girlfriend counting on paper but never really showing her face throughout the season, one could say Lennay "Played Like A Jet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If Te'o was a beast in the Bama game had like 20 tackles or whatever, this wouldn't hurt his stock. They'd say yes he's nuts or whatever but he dominates. the bottom line is how does he play. And Te'o played like crap in the biggest game of his life so far. That's what's gonna kill his stock, way more than this girlfriend thing. The league is willing to overlook alot for a stud. Te'o doesn't play a premium position and isn't studly enough to make people overlook this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So much is wrong and factually incorrect with the above post that I'm not going to waste my time breaking it all down and making you look silly. Te'o was heavily recruited, he's been the best player on some bad teams and was the best player on a really good team. Players do drop and maybe Te'o will, but he'll still be picked in the first round because NFL teams don't care about this stuff. T'eo won't be picked in the first round because he shat the bed in the BCS championship. NO one wants to invest a first round pick who only plays good against USC or Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 If Te'o was a beast in the Bama game had like 20 tackles or whatever, this wouldn't hurt his stock. They'd say yes he's nuts or whatever but he dominates. the bottom line is how does he play. And Te'o played like crap in the biggest game of his life so far. That's what's gonna kill his stock, way more than this girlfriend thing. The league is willing to overlook alot for a stud. Te'o doesn't play a premium position and isn't studly enough to make people overlook this story. John Buccigross@Buccigross Stop with Te'o draft status queries. We've had kleptomaniacs, dudes push girlfriends down stairs, dudes that have worn Crocs. #theydontcare mark schlereth@markschlereth I don't think it does much. “@est__1978: @markschlereth what do you think this does to Te'o draft stock?” Ed Werder@Edwerderespn One NFL personnel scout on Manti Te'o scandal and draft impact: "If a team needs an LB, they can watch the tape and forgive him.'' Albert Breer@AlbertBreer If you think Te'o's NFL stock will be seriously damaged by all this, I give you Lawrence Phillips, the sixth overall pick in the 1996 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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