SayNoToDMC Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Is Thomas Jones really getting sh*t for donating his brain to science? Weirdos. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think its a noble thing. I am not sure why people have a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 "But once you've bought everything you want, you realize there is more you want out of life." OMG so tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Where would the NFL be without players? So you think the helmets they wear are just for show? lol. For every guy in the league that turns down their spot cause of the potential head injuries, there are a thousand more waiting in the wings that would take his spot for pennies on the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Is Thomas Jones really getting sh*t for donating his brain to science? Weirdos. I think its a noble thing. I am not sure why people have a problem with that. I am with you guys. There are a few thousand players that feel the NFL has been slow to protect players. Dangerous game, yes. But still the NFL could have done more along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I am with you guys. There are a few thousand players that feel the NFL has been slow to protect players. Dangerous game, yes. But still the NFL could have done more along the way. NFL is money oriented. All their "concern" for player safety and the new rules to do that is all done with the one and only one focus, that's how to play an 18 game season. The research of brains of ex players can help give a lot of insight on what happens and how to cure it going forward. And its good to see so many players willing to help this cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think its a noble thing. I am not sure why people have a problem with that. Because Jones is an entitled nitwit who's never worked a day in his life who now wants to assert that he was victimized by playing the evil game of football even though he never once turned down a paycheck to do such a terrible thing. I want one of these poor millionaires to walk into a blue collar bar on a Friday afternoon and tell one of the patrons--most of whom are beat to sh*t, uninsured, and make ~$50k in a good year--how lucky they are to never have played in the NFL because, you know, they don't have to deal with occasional headaches and depression. Sure those lucky, crippled masons and carpenters won't be able to retire at 35 years old with millions in the bank like an NFL guy, and they'll probably die swinging a hammer, but they'll never know the true horror of being exploited by rich, white billionaires for a decade. Mike Webster died in a car over a decade ago. The idea that concussions are a mysterious, new issue to NFL players is a farce. The next guy I'll believe on this topic is the guy who gets drafted in the first round, but turns around and leaves $30 mil on the table to go take a job stacking boxes at WalMart because he's afraid of concussions. But these jackasses that gladly filled their pockets with NFL gold don't get to turn around when the gold stops coming and act like someone held a gun to their head to take it, because they're hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 lol. For every guy in the league that turns down their spot cause of the potential head injuries, there are a thousand more waiting in the wings that would take his spot for pennies on the dollar. Yea that wouldn't have any effect on the actual product on the field. You are spinning in place trying to prove a stupid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Monday morning QB much? The NFL fought hard not to have to acknowledge the head injuries, but hey who cares some players got rich. Because Jones is an entitled nitwit who's never worked a day in his life who now wants to assert that he was victimized by playing the evil game of football even though he never once turned down a paycheck to do such a terrible thing. I want one of these poor millionaires to walk into a blue collar bar on a Friday afternoon and tell one of the patrons--most of whom are beat to sh*t, uninsured, and make ~$50k in a good year--how lucky they are to never have played in the NFL because, you know, they don't have to deal with occasional headaches and depression. Sure those lucky, crippled masons and carpenters won't be able to retire at 35 years old with millions in the bank like an NFL guy, and they'll probably die swinging a hammer, but they'll never know the true horror of being exploited by rich, white billionaires for a decade. Mike Webster died in a car over a decade ago. The idea that concussions are a mysterious, new issue to NFL players is a farce. The next guy I'll believe on this topic is the guy who gets drafted in the first round, but turns around and leaves $30 mil on the table to go take a job stacking boxes at WalMart because he's afraid of concussions. But these jackasses that gladly filled their pockets with NFL gold don't get to turn around when the gold stops coming and act like someone held a gun to their head to take it, because they're hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Because Jones is an entitled nitwit who's never worked a day in his life who now wants to assert that he was victimized by playing the evil game of football even though he never once turned down a paycheck to do such a terrible thing. I want one of these poor millionaires to walk into a blue collar bar on a Friday afternoon and tell one of the patrons--most of whom are beat to sh*t, uninsured, and make ~$50k in a good year--how lucky they are to never have played in the NFL because, you know, they don't have to deal with occasional headaches and depression. Sure those lucky, crippled masons and carpenters won't be able to retire at 35 years old with millions in the bank like an NFL guy, and they'll probably die swinging a hammer, but they'll never know the true horror of being exploited by rich, white billionaires for a decade. Mike Webster died in a car over a decade ago. The idea that concussions are a mysterious, new issue to NFL players is a farce. The next guy I'll believe on this topic is the guy who gets drafted in the first round, but turns around and leaves $30 mil on the table to go take a job stacking boxes at WalMart because he's afraid of concussions. But these jackasses that gladly filled their pockets with NFL gold don't get to turn around when the gold stops coming and act like someone held a gun to their head to take it, because they're hypocrites. The idea that concussions are a mysterious, new issue to NFL players is a farce. I said as much myself. All this "concern" shown by the NFL now is to promote the 18 game season. I understand the coal worker part. There are a ton of blue collar workers who die of work related injuries.And yes they do not get compensated well. I do have a problem with the wealthy billionaire stiffing the working masses. Whether it's a football team owner, a coal mine owner or a Wall Street banker. So its natural to despise these wealthy leeches but not sure why we despise the rich. Usually riches are earned by having some special talent or working smart or putting your life on the line for that better livelihood. So i cannot despise the pro level rich players. At the end of the day just because a player got rich playing a sport does not mean he cannot worry about injuries suffered while playing a sport. And that too injuries where not much is understood about how to cure these injuries or prevent them from happening completely while playing that sport. So if someone wants to contribute to that effort by donating his organs after death i see it as a noble contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 who's never worked a day in his life Lol. I wish I was rich just so I could enjoy how poor people negate the work of poor people, constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You work in a coal mine, you get the black lung. Irony of this analogy in this thread is that, if I recall correctly, Thomas Jones' mother actually worked in a coal mine. But she (and her son) are black whether or not either worked in a coal mine, you insensitive, racist jerk. So I think you are as much an authority on black lungs as Derek Zoolander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I wish I was rich The Jets GM job is still open. Why don't you fax them over some screen grabs of your last three Madden off-seasons, along with a receipt for your subscription to the Sporting News Draft Guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 No problems with jones saying this let's hope he does the same with all his organs. And for those who havent let their loved ones know they wish to be an organ donor, take a minute to do that today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Irony of this analogy in this thread is that, if I recall correctly, Thomas Jones' mother actually worked in a coal mine. But she (and her son) are black whether or not either worked in a coal mine, you insensitive, racist jerk. So I think you are as much an authority on black lungs as Derek Zoolander. Scared the sh*t out of me. I thought I threw in an unintentional racist thing there. Bastid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The Jets GM job is still open. Why don't you fax them over some screen grabs of your last three Madden off-seasons, along with a receipt for your subscription to the Sporting News Draft Guide? See this is just mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 At the end of the day just because a player got rich playing a sport does not mean he cannot worry about injuries suffered while playing a sport. And that too injuries where not much is understood about how to cure these injuries or prevent them from happening completely while playing that sport. So if someone wants to contribute to that effort by donating his organs after death i see it as a noble contribution. He's producing a series called "The NFL: Gift...or CURSE?" Give me a break that he has noble intentions. Guaranteed the way this ended up in the paper in the first place is because Jones' agent sent a mass email out to every news source in an attempt to promote this project. Yes, they'll find CTE in his brain. And Namath's brain. And Mike Golic's brain. And Brian Leetch's brain. And Manny Pacquiao's brain. And the guy in the street using a jackhammer's brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 And the guy in the street using a jackhammer's brain. Is there some link between construction work and traumatic brain injury that I'm not aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Is there some link between construction work and traumatic brain injury that I'm not aware of? I hate to pull the old "have you ever used a jackhammer?" card, but have you ever used a jackhammer? Possibly the single most violent thing you'll experience next to being in a car crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hate to pull the old "have you ever used a jackhammer?" card Ah, that old chestnut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 no hix So, does his brain go straight to the jar, or does it dance around for a while? So, does his brain go straight to the jar, or does it dance around for a while? it goes from jar to jar then it will get old and nobody will want it and goes to the trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hate to pull the old "have you ever used a jackhammer?" card, but have you ever used a jackhammer? Possibly the single most violent thing you'll experience next to being in a car crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yea that wouldn't have any effect on the actual product on the field. You are spinning in place trying to prove a stupid point. lollicopter. Take a look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 No one knew all the risks 12 years ago, nor today really. You have no idea if Jones would of been successful or not, you're talking out of your azz. Do you really need a doctor to tell you that playing football can be wildly detrimental to your life, either at the time or later on? People pay the price with their health later in life for choices they make, and they are pretty much all common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Do you really need a doctor to tell you that playing football can be wildly detrimental to your life, either at the time or later on? People pay the price with their health later in life for choices they make, and they are pretty much all common sense. There are risks of course, but these players were denied care after their careers by the NFL, look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 lollicopter. Take a look in the mirror. Elite athletes are easy to replace right? You must love the Arena league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 There are risks of course, but these players were denied care after their careers by the NFL, look it up. I think i remember reading how a lot of these players who don't have the money for healthcare took foolish advances on their pensions. Don't remember where I read that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He's producing a series called "The NFL: Gift...or CURSE?" Give me a break that he has noble intentions. Guaranteed the way this ended up in the paper in the first place is because Jones' agent sent a mass email out to every news source in an attempt to promote this project. Yes, they'll find CTE in his brain. And Namath's brain. And Mike Golic's brain. And Brian Leetch's brain. And Manny Pacquiao's brain. And the guy in the street using a jackhammer's brain. So you are saying he is promoting a movie. Not as noble but still see nothing wrong with that. Its an unfair world. Some professions do not have the following some other professions have. We do not follow the exploits of a jackhammer's work or how he did in practice or whether he will stay on with the construction company or go to the rival organization. Not fair, but that's the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think i remember reading how a lot of these players who don't have the money for healthcare took foolish advances on their pensions. Don't remember where I read that though. The NFL denied former players for years hence the lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Elite athletes are easy to replace right? You must love the Arena league. You act as if we are talking about every single nfl player. The point is simple, try to keep up, if you are so worried about the head injuries no one is forcing you to play. Potential head injuries is a trade off for the money you earn and the ability to play a game you love instead of working a 9 to 5 for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You act as if we are talking about every single nfl player. The point is simple, try to keep up, if you are so worried about the head injuries no one is forcing you to play. Potential head injuries is a trade off for the money you earn and the ability to play a game you love instead of working a 9 to 5 for the rest of your life. The players have become bigger, stronger and faster yet the equipment they use has barely advanced. To pretend these players get by in the NFL because talent alone is naive to say the least. You don't think these players have trained and worked hard to not only get into the league but to also remain in the league is comical. Thomas Jones graduated from the University of Virginia and that's a very good school, yet you assume he would be incapable to get a "real" job? Cab drivers should be highly paid too based on your theory of risk of injury with ones job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The players have become bigger, stronger and faster yet the equipment they use has barely advanced. To pretend these players get by in the NFL because talent alone is naive to say the least. You don't think these players have trained and worked hard to not only get into the league but to also remain in the league is comical. Thomas Jones graduated from the University of Virginia and that's a very good school, yet you assume he would be incapable to get a "real" job? Cab drivers should be highly paid too based on your theory of risk of injury with ones job. Say what, chicken butt? Where did I say anything about them not working hard to remain in the league? roflsauce. Learn to read big boy. aaand again, point goes over your head. Many of them, aren't that bright. Many of them went to the schools they went to based on football. I don't care about Thomas Jones. Never have. He may be a genius, but he may also be a complete tool. You miss the point. I feel sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Say what, chicken butt? Where did I say anything about them not working hard to remain in the league? roflsauce. Learn to read big boy. aaand again, point goes over your head. Many of them, aren't that bright. Many of them went to the schools they went to based on football. I don't care about Thomas Jones. Never have. He may be a genius, but he may also be a complete tool. You miss the point. I feel sorry for you. You have a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You have a point? eeeexactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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