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[Freemanm]

It's not easy, but it's not impossible.  In fact, I think I could teach him plenty myself.  I don't think he is going to just learn what he needs from catching balls from a Jugs gun.  I have seen him make some tough catches in traffic- and those were usually the kind where he could get both hands on the ball and catch it textbook style. I think he needs to work on some of the other crazy drills to learn to adjust to the ball when he's running.- some of the things we've tried are forcing ourselves to catch the ball with one hand and then the other, the one that I think Shockey used to do where you have your back to the QB then spin and have to locate and catch the ball. Stuff like that.  The trouble is that different things can help different players.  A lot of it will also come from confidence.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hill needs a QB who can actually throw him the ball when he's not being triple covered.

[Greenseed4]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hill needs a QB who can actually throw him the ball when he's not being triple covered.

I was going to post something to this effect, sans the triple coverage comment.

Hill would benefit from a strong armed QB who throws tight spirals in catch-able places.

[#27TheDominator]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hill needs a QB who can actually throw him the ball when he's not being triple covered.

I was going to post something to this effect, sans the triple coverage comment.

Hill would benefit from a strong armed QB who throws tight spirals in catch-able places.

Relevance?

Nobody is denying that HIll could be more productive with a better QB, but I don't see how anybody with eyes can think that he doesn't have work to do. Hill is far from a finished product. No matter who the QB is, HIll can and should be better than he was in 2012.

Edited by #27TheDominator, 25 January 2013 - 11:16 AM.

[Greenseed4]

Relevance?

Nobody is denying that HIll could be more productive with a better QB, but I don't see how anybody with eyes can think that he has work to do. Hill is far from a finished product. No matter who the QB is, HIll can and should be better than he was in 2012.

You're right. We can probably file this right between "duh" and "derr"... yet it hasn't been said.

Some guys need a stronger thrown ball to catch better, it helps them "pluck" rather than "scoop", and a lot of the drops I saw with Hill this year were alligator arm drops. He can practice on the jugs machine all week, but if his QB can't throw a spiral with velocity then all of his practice is for naught.

[Il Mostro]

Not that he needs to be a rocket scientist, but it wouldn't hurt if Hill had a brain. In every interview I've seen he comes across as a clueless dolt. I am not sure if he has the mental capacity to improve his hands and routes, let alone be consistent.

[kelly]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Hill needs a QB who can actually throw him the ball when he's not being triple covered.

agreed.
hopefully we can get an nfl qb this off-season.





cheers ~ ~

[#27TheDominator]

Not that he needs to be a rocket scientist, but it wouldn't hurt if Hill had a brain. In every interview I've seen he comes across as a clueless dolt. I am not sure if he has the mental capacity to improve his hands and routes, let alone be consistent.

If Mario Manningham can be successful in the NFL "squirrel brained" is quite enough.

[stugotz81]

Hill just doesn't seem to have to coordination yet. He has the size and speed but when you look at his coordination and agility in comparasion to a calvin johnson or andre johnson, its clear Hill is just to raw. Hopefully he adapts and progresses but I dont see him turning into much. Not with this qb roster at least

[kelly]

Hill just doesn't seem to have to coordination yet. He has the size and speed but when you look at his coordination and agility in comparasion to a calvin johnson or andre johnson, its clear Hill is just to raw. Hopefully he adapts and progresses but I dont see him turning into much. Not with this qb roster at least

ugggh ,..he's still kinda young fellas....

[jack48]

Coples had a very solid rookie campaign. I truly think Davis will emerge not only as a force but as a team leader in 2013. Ask Devito who the biggest leaders were in 2012 and he'll start by naming Davis...and that's only as a bench/st guy.

Hill is a different story. His hands could become a major liability that will plague him throughout his career. But if he can fix that, a very big if, he's already shown the ability to do everything else at the pro level. So there's that.

Davis is fast. Compared to our LBs he runs like a corner. If he gets to think as fast as he moves, he will be a good one.

[kelly]

Davis is fast. Compared to our LBs he runs like a corner. If he gets to think as fast as he moves, he will be a good one.

I think he may end help helping us next season

[ylekram]

I think he may end help helping us next season

i expect davis and coples to be muchmore productive next year.hopefully,hill, with a full offseason,can do more than he did last year.not a great rookie year,hopefully,he starts to get it next year

[tEYbow]

Lol... After Vernon ****ing Gholston we are supposed to be down on a guy for being a late boomer because his 5.5 sacks came towards the end of his rookie year?

[sirlancemehlot]

You're right. We can probably file this right between "duh" and "derr"... yet it hasn't been said.

Some guys need a stronger thrown ball to catch better, it helps them "pluck" rather than "scoop", and a lot of the drops I saw with Hill this year were alligator arm drops. He can practice on the jugs machine all week, but if his QB can't throw a spiral with velocity then all of his practice is for naught.

Ahhh. So his drops are due to Sanchez not throwing the ball in a hard spiral? Hmmm.. NFL receivers need to catch whatever is thrown at them. Also, for all his faults, Sanchez has a fairly strong arm, can make all the throws and chucks a really nice spiral. Of course he misses his targets and throws to the defense when he isn't fumbling...but throwing a nice ball has been among his strengths.

[The Crusher]

Coples was solid and he came on strong as the year went on. Davis....I wanted to see more of him. He is a HUGE KEY next season. They need him to start.

Hill? The game plan needs to be for him to be the 4th WR at the beginning of next year. Counting on him to start is what 6 win teams look back on and regret.

Agree with Hill. Too much for a kid that raw to be forced into the situation he was with all the injuries. He needs to be able to have small successes until he gains his confidence. A more accurate passer wouldn't hurt. Tuff to work on your hands when every other ball requires a miracle catch to complete.

[kelly]

Lol... After Vernon ****ing Gholston we are supposed to be down on a guy for being a late boomer because his 5.5 sacks came towards the end of his ~ ~ ROOKIE ~ ~ year?

YOU GOT IT ! !

[Greenseed4]

Ahhh. So his drops are due to Sanchez not throwing the ball in a hard spiral? Hmmm.. NFL receivers need to catch whatever is thrown at them. Also, for all his faults, Sanchez has a fairly strong arm, can make all the throws and chucks a really nice spiral. Of course he misses his targets and throws to the defense when he isn't fumbling...but throwing a nice ball has been among his strengths.

I'd say his drops are due to his being a rookie. But Sanchez isn't doing him any favors with the way he throws.

Show me a Sanchez spiral and I'll show you a Sanchez duck. It's more than just the tight spin of the ball, Sanchez tends to throw an uncatchable ball: his speed, placement, and timing are off (more times than not).

I like the kid! He just doesn't do his receivers any favors with his ball placement...that includes our newest additions (who may have ALL the talent in the world...but we won't know when Sanchez is throwing the ball).

[JetsFanInDenver]

Lol... After Vernon ****ing Gholston we are supposed to be down on a guy for being a late boomer because his 5.5 sacks came towards the end of his rookie year?

But but but so many people had him as a bust by the first half of the season. Now you expect those people to go back on what they said. No way!

[pointman]

Hill needs to learn how to catch. Kind of a factor when your job is to... catch.

Coples, looks high all the time. I hope he pans out.

Davis, this is the year we find out what his deal is. No Scott so, Davis show us.

[DLJ]

I hope they retain Braylon for a reasonable contract. The guy wants to play here, and seems to be at his best when he does. Holmes is here another year, and Kerley is solid. Hill isn't a bad #4 in that group.