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#26 SenorGato

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:37 PM

Apparently, he was the only player to give Eric Fisher fits this week.

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Well let me tell ya'...My contact, who shall remain nameless, said that Eric Fisher probably goes in the first round, and might even go in the high first round. He said his stock has risen.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

Well let me tell ya'...My contact, who shall remain nameless, said that Eric Fisher probably goes in the first round, and might even go in the high first round. He said his stock has risen.


hahahaa

MY contact, who has no name, said Eric Fisher might have surpassed Luke Joekel as the first OT drafted.

Mayock said, "he is Joe Staley with better feet". I don't know, but between him and Ansah I think the Jets might be in a good spot to trade down and still get a quality player in the first.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

i'll take Manuel out of the lot.


I am just quoting what the buzz has been from the scouts. Manuel has some accuracy issues.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

hahahaa

MY contact, who has no name, said Eric Fisher might have surpassed Luke Joekel as the first OT drafted.



Not happening. Luke is a three year starter and about as clean as can be for an LT. Fisher is awesome too, but Joekel will be the first tackle to go easily.

V. Williams is laying the wood!
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

Like what I've seen from Will Davis, CB Utah St. Good player
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:15 PM

Why is Goodwin playing for the north? Last I checked, Texas is about as south as it gets.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

Ansah strikes again!
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

Why is Goodwin playing for the north? Last I checked, Texas is about as south as it gets.


At the Shrine game last week players from Kansas State were on the East AND the West teams.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:31 PM

At the Shrine game last week players from Kansas State were on the East AND the West teams.


Well, Kansas is in the middle I suppose.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

If I weren't such an LSU fan, Ansah might actually surpass Mingo as my favorite player in this draft. Still think Mingo is faster off the snap, but both are not only incredibly gifted athletes, but don't shy from contact and have very solid instincts. If we're actually able to hit on finally getting an elite pass-rusher, we wouldn't have to rely on coverage sacks (and expensive corners) so damned much.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

I am just quoting what the buzz has been from the scouts. Manuel has some accuracy issues.

I've read Dysert probably has the best accuracy.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

I love the guard from Kentucky, think he might move up pass the guard from Tennessee as the 3rd best guard in the draft. EJ is going to be a nice pro. He has the legs to hold up better than a pure pocket passer as he can protect himself in circumventing the pass rush. Think he can be better than Wilson from the Seahawks. That Fisher LT is a stud. He needs to improve in the run game but he seems very NFL ready to produce in a passing attack.

The Hunt kid form SMU has to square up and get his eyes in the back field. Ansahhad a good game but was terrible throughout the practces. Seems to get lose on occasions. His instincts needs to pick up and he need to have another move besides the pull rush. Glennon was yuke.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

Only saw first half and fell dead asleep. Only conclusion I drew was there are no QBs in the draft this year. I don;t know if I saw everyone, of course.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

Not happening. Luke is a three year starter and about as clean as can be for an LT. Fisher is awesome too, but Joekel will be the first tackle to go easily.

V. Williams is laying the wood!


Agreed on the tackles. My contact was saying pretty much the same thing.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:36 PM

i'll take Manuel out of the lot.

I didn't like Manuel going into the game but he was responsible for 21 points today. Hard to argue with that.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:39 PM

I love the guard from Kentucky, think he might move up pass the guard from Tennessee as the 3rd best guard in the draft. EJ is going to be a nice pro. He has the legs to hold up better than a pure pocket passer as he can protect himself in circumventing the pass rush. Think he can be better than Wilson from the Seahawks. That Fisher LT is a stud. He needs to improve in the run game but he seems very NFL ready to produce in a passing attack.

The Hunt kid form SMU has to square up and get his eyes in the back field. Ansahhad a good game but was terrible throughout the practces. Seems to get lose on occasions. His instincts needs to pick up and he need to have another move besides the pull rush. Glennon was yuke.

Warford ( Kentucky guard) had a hell of a game. Looked like a man playing with kids. The word on him pre game was that he doesn't always work as hard as he should. He sure showed up today. I guess $$ can do that to people. :)
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:46 PM

Ansah strikes again!

His stock certainly will rise after today's game. He was all over the place.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

Nassib play yet?

He didn't show much. Threw a real nice pick so I'm sure the Bills will be interested in him even more now. lol
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:05 PM

Warford ( Kentucky guard) had a hell of a game. Looked like a man playing with kids. The word on him pre game was that he doesn't always work as hard as he should. He sure showed up today. I guess $$ can do that to people. :)


That's the type of player I want nothing to do with.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:58 PM

His stock certainly will rise after today's game. He was all over the place.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:52 PM

I've read Dysert probably has the best accuracy.


Dysert had a rough week. People came away feeling he didn't have the arm or the quick release needed to be a starter in the league. His accuracy was lacking, too. I liked him from film, but it did not translate to the higher level of competition.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

i see some good latte picks for LBs. manuel looked good
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

2013 Senior Bowl qbs

By Walt - @walterfootball
Jan. 27, 2013

The quarterback position was definitely the weakest at the Senior Bowl, yet it's what all of the fuss was about throughout the week and during the game. In fact, several quarterbacks even trended on Twitter Saturday afternoon, and it's easy to see why. Quarterbacks are so valuable because they're the most important position in sports. Teams that have a good one will always contend for a playoff spot, while franchises that have been searching for one for a long time - Bills, Browns, Raiders - have been absent from the postseason for at least a decade.

It's safe to say that most of the quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl underwhelmed to the dismay of the teams in search of one. Here's a look at the six signal-callers, how they performed during the game, and where they should expect to be selected in April.

E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
E.J. Manuel was the top quarterback Saturday afternoon. He led the South team to all 21 of its points and won the MVP. Now, before Manuel supporters rejoice, past Senior Bowl MVPs include Charlie Frye, Sinorice Moss, Tony Hunt and Pat White. But of course, there's Larry Johnson, Philip Rivers, Matt Forte and Brandon Graham. Being a Senior Bowl MVP seems pretty irrelevant in terms of guaging an NFL future, but one thing's for sure - it raises the winner's stock. The four busts - Frye, Moss, Hunt and White - all went earlier than projected. The same could hold true for Manuel.

Mike Mayock noted that Manuel drew third- and fourth-round grades from some teams. Take into account the fact that quarterbacks go earlier than projected and his Senior Bowl performance, and Manuel probably has played himself into second-round consideration.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if Manuel sneaks into the bottom of the first round because of his immense potential. Manuel is incredibly inconsistent, but he has the tools to be very good, and it's promising that he's stepped up in the biggest games of his career thus far. He just needs to be coached up.

2013 NFL Draft Projection: 2nd Round

Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State
Mike Glennon's first half was ugly, but he made several incredible passes following the Senior Bowl intermission. He displayed great arm strength on a deep sideline throw and then showed off great touch and accuracy on a pass to his target down the seam. As he completed these passes, I tweeted (@walterfootball), "And that is why #NCState QB Mike Glennon will be a first-round pick."

Glennon, like Manuel, is horribly inconsistent. He also needs to be coached up as well. But he has so much potential, and that dreaded P-word is why he's going to be chosen in the first round, possibly as high as No. 8 to the Bills. I won't agree with it, and I won't give Buffalo or whichever team a good grade, but I'll understand the move. Teams are that desperate for a quarterback that they'll reach in hopes that they'll hit the jackpot.

2013 NFL Draft Projection: 1st Round

Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
There were concerns about Tyler Wilson's ability to play in a vertical passing offense entering the Senior Bowl. Tony Pauline of Draft Insider stated that Wilson is "very effective in the short and intermediate field" but "does not have the arm strength to stretch the field." Wilson lived up to that scouting report in Mobile.

As I wrote in my Senior Bowl Stock Report, "Wilson looked like a right-handed version of Matt Leinart in the Senior Bowl. He spent most of his time checking down, and his one deep attempt died in the air and was nearly picked off."

Wilson, who finsihed 8-of-11 for only 39 yards, probably won't be a first-round pick. I think he'll settle in somewhere in the second round, quite possibly to the Chiefs if they don't nab Geno Smith at No. 1 overall.

2013 NFL Draft Projection: 2nd Round

Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
There were some conflicting reports about Ryan Nassib heading into the game. Charlie Campbell spoke to sources who stated that they were disappointed with the Orange product. DraftCountdown.com's Shane Hallam agreed, citing Nassib's struggles in terms of planting and driving the ball, even when coached specifically about that. Meanwhile, others were quite taken with Nassib.

Nassib did not look good during the game, going 4-of-10 for 44 yards and a terrible interception. It was only one week in which he was unfamiliar with his receivers, but he didn't exactly do himself any favors in terms of increasing his first-round chances. In fact, one team he's been linked to isn't quite interested in him. Pauline reported that the Bills, despite being coached by Nassib's former head coach Doug Marrone, aren't very intrigued about the possibility of drafting Nassib.

If Pauline's report is true, it's pretty damning for Nassib. We've seen Charlie Weis pass on Jimmy Clausen and Pete Carroll eschew drafting Taylor Mays, and look how that turned out. Still, Nassib should be a second-day draft choice.

2013 NFL Draft Projection: 2nd-3rd Round

Zac Dysert, QB, Miami of Ohio
Zac Dysert had an OK stat line - 10-of-16, 93 yards, one touchdown and an interception - but that's a bit misleading. Most of his completions came on the final drive where he checked it down repeatedly to running back Kenjon Barner.

Dysert's actual performance can be described as pedestrian. Most of his passes were meaningless short attempts that any quarterback could convert. He made two impressive passes that come to mind, but he also tossed the aforementioned pick, which was quite ugly. Dysert did not enjoy a good week of practice either. That hurts because personnel men deem the practices more important the game. Of course, film is also factored in, and Dysert was quite checkdown-happy in most of his outings against stout defenses.

Dysert will probably be chosen at some point in the third round, but his new team shouldn't expect to strike gold or anything.

2013 NFL Draft Projection: 3rd-4th Round


Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
Landry Jones was easily the worst quarterback at the Senior Bowl, which is saying a lot because most of them stunk up Mobile. Jones did not look like he belonged in the NFL. He frequently panicked in the pocket, even when there weren't any pass-rushers there. He would stop looking downfield and either take a sack or toss a short checkdown.

Jones, who finished 3-of-10 for a laughable 16 yards, could go undrafted. He was that bad. I think his experience will ultimately save him on Draft Day, but his new team won't get anything better than a career backup.

2013 NFL Draft Projection: 6th-7th Round

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

The Jets should not take a QB this year. Not one.
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