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#1 bitonti

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

http://www.draftdadd...D/draft2013.htm

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

yeah no we need a OLB that can rush wr no way, but hey we got the same scout team so be ready for a bad pic
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

yeah no we need a OLB that can rush wr no way, but hey we got the same scout team so be ready for a bad pic


OLB is a problem I agree on that and if Jarvis Jones is there, it's a done deal.

but Last year WR was in awful shape. Kerley a #3 is the best wide out. Holmes was hurt, and he's got maybe 1 year left with this team. Hill can't run routes which is a problem in a west coast offense and the rest are street free agents.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

If they get rid of Holmes somehow I could see WR. Otherwise that's a huge waste. They have their supposed 1-3 receivers on the roster already. I can see a WR in the later rounds but that dude isn't the BPA and is therefore a bad decision.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:11 PM

Yea I wouldn't like the pick. Wait for the second or third, because none of the WRs in this class are that great anyway.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:25 PM

every year I recognize fewer and fewer names on these mocks. I used to know 25 - 28 names

so yeah whatever just don't trade up or take a DE
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:44 PM

I think you're reaching based on need. Allen isnt worthy of a top 10 pick. No WR in this draft is.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

I think you're reaching based on need. Allen isnt worthy of a top 10 pick. No WR in this draft is.


Mingo could very well be the pick here. I wanted to play around with positions a bit. Thanks everyone for feedback, it helps.

as for Allen, he's a perfect fit for the WCO, and this was probably a reaction to the Marty Morn hire. he's a solid rd1 grade from all sorts of sources. it's obviously real early but he appears to be the top WR in a fairly strong WR class.

should the Jets pass, don't see Allen getting out of the top 20. Cordarelle Patterson could run a 4.3 and become a top 10 pick as well. Patterson and Hopkins have more upside than Allen but Allen probably has more receiving talent right now.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

Sorry Bit, I don't see Allen going top-ten. Maybe that's just part of me hoping we magically find our QB (somehow) this year, and pick up Sammy Watkins or Marquise Lee next year, or two of the three NEXT year with some trade.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:01 AM

I too do not see WR as the pick at #9.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

Mingo could very well be the pick here. I wanted to play around with positions a bit. Thanks everyone for feedback, it helps.

as for Allen, he's a perfect fit for the WCO, and this was probably a reaction to the Marty Morn hire. he's a solid rd1 grade from all sorts of sources. it's obviously real early but he appears to be the top WR in a fairly strong WR class.

should the Jets pass, don't see Allen getting out of the top 20. Cordarelle Patterson could run a 4.3 and become a top 10 pick as well. Patterson and Hopkins have more upside than Allen but Allen probably has more receiving talent right now.


True but thats all the more reason I'm not taking a WR early in this draft. Plenty of solid prospects to be had in the mid rounds. Plenty. Allen would be a reach there. He provides nothing but just a solid set of skills which IMO doesnt warrant a top 10 selection. He's not the type of receiver thats going to help an average to below-average QB become better, which is more than likely what the Jets are looking at and that is the type of WR you should be taking in the top 10.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:31 AM

the advantage of taking a WR is that he plays WR. Taking a Mingo means standing him up and teaching him to play linebacker. We all know how that can turn out.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:37 AM

the advantage of taking a WR is that he plays WR. Taking a Mingo means standing him up and teaching him to play linebacker. We all know how that can turn out.


I could be wrong about this but didnt they move him to DE this season out of necessity? Didnt he play rush edge LBer last season for them and had double the sacks?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

I could be wrong about this but didnt they move him to DE this season out of necessity? Didnt he play rush edge LBer last season for them and had double the sacks?


he played linebacker in high school. The LSU tigers run a fairly straight forward 4-3. the best outcome would be Jarvis Jones. All of these other guys are converts.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:51 AM

We all know how that can turn out.


Like Ware, Suggs, Smith, McGinest, Vrabel, Woodley, Harrison, Taylor, ore-injuries Merriman, Orakpo, Kerrigan, and so on? Or you meant that one guy who sucked for the Jets?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

Like Ware, Suggs, Smith, McGinest, Vrabel, Woodley, Harrison, Taylor, ore-injuries Merriman, Orakpo, Kerrigan, and so on? Or you meant that one guy who sucked for the Jets?


how many of those were top 10 picks? without looking it up i'm guessing 1. Suggs at 10 (who was the NCAA all time sack leader) Not saying it can't work just saying it's a risk that the fans do not want to recognize.

again im not saying Keenan Allen is unbelievable player but he runs quality routes, is always open and gets tons of yac. Isn't that what we complained about for years, not having a WR who could get separation?

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:04 PM

Four were too ten, 7 were top 15, 8 were top 16.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:17 PM

Four were too ten, 7 were top 15, 8 were top 16.


Mingo certainly could be the pick at 9. Just looking at other options. DO you think the pick is 100% definitely gonna be OLB/DE?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

No but I am equally sure it won't be WR, TBH.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:35 PM

No but I am equally sure it won't be WR, TBH.


why? are you saying they will address the position but not in rd 1? The WR were atrocious last year. How much longer will Holmes be a Jet? Can any of them run in the WCO? it's a legitimate concern. There are other OLB/DE in the draft, just as there are other WR. Some of those guys on your list were third rounders (Jason Taylor) and some weren't even drafted (Harrison).

by the way the free agency period will tell alot. If they sign a bunch of WR then obviously not. But if they make a high profile signing like Spencer or Barwin then they aren't gonna go DE to OLB convert at 9.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:44 PM

1. Yes, all of them can run in the WCO. Another non-issue we're supposed to pretend is a thing...

2. Lawrence Taylor was the Taylor.

3. "Some" is two in two categories. You can do this for any position.

4. Kerley was fine last year, Holmes was out but is fine when he's healthy, and Hill was a rookie they moved up for. They need depth, sure, but there is no WR in the draft worth the 9 pick.

5. Pass on ether of those players probably.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:14 PM

Look at the team, what's the biggest problem, it's not the defense or the pass rush.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:39 PM

WR isn't the biggest problem either.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:42 PM

WR isn't the biggest problem either.


this is a team that gave meaningful reps to Chaz Schiliens, Clyde Gates, Jason Hill, Jordan White, It got pretty bad.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

This is the same team that gave meaningful reps to Garret McIntyre and a recently off surgery Bryan Thomas without their best starter going down to injury.
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