SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Interesting read. Sorry if reposted. Bill Polian: 'Moneyball does not work in the NFL' By Gregg Rosenthal The Buffalo Bills announced this week that they would be starting a "robust" analytics department, becoming the latest team to embrace statistical analysis as a tool to help make decisions. Just like in baseball, this is not going to be embraced by the old guard. "As a practical tool, Moneyball does not work in the NFL because there are very few undervalued players and no middle class because of our salary cap," longtime NFL general manager Bill Polian told Buffalo Business First contributing editor Tim O'Shei, via The Buffalo News. "There is no middle class in football because the minimum salaries are so high and because of the salary cap, a player will reach a point where you can't keep him. They go. They're going to get big money elsewhere," Polian said. This seems to be a very limited way of viewing things. Of course there are undervalued players dotted throughout NFL rosters. Any player who is playing well on a rookie contract, for instance, is going to be undervalued. Analytics certainly can be an asset in evaluating players for the draft in support of scouting. Polian is right that the NFL salary cap makes financial matters in the NFL far different than baseball, but that hardly means there isn't value to be found on the free-agent market or through the draft. It's hard to find veterans who are on their second and third contracts and are undervalued, but they certainly are out there. "Now, you can't win for long, which is why nobody will ever go to four straight Super Bowls again," Polian said. "The system is designed to take good teams and rob them of players. That's the way it is." That's a bizarre stance to take from a guy whose Indianapolis Colts teams routinely racked up 12 wins per season for a decade. The New England Patriots have at least tied for their division lead every season since 2001. They have earned a first-round playoff bye the last three seasons. You can win for long if you can find small advantages. (Combined with a Hall of Fame quarterback.) The Bills, and other teams like the Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars, aren't looking for numbers to provide a magic formula that solves all their problems. They won't discard scouting. They are just looking for tiny advantages and information that can help make decisions. Over time, those advantages add up. NFL teams always are looking for an edge. Polian's view seems deliberately obtuse or perhaps a little afraid that small changes are coming to his change-resistant league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Polian is clearly on the way out. Didn't he help hire Idzik a little bit? If so, how could he be against numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Blah blah have pro bowl QB succeed. Don't and suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Which is very different from the philosophy the JETS have had. Its called "Pitball". You overpay for under performing and undeserving players in the hope they turnaround. Examples being Sanchez, Santonio, Harris, Pace and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't think the NFL ****s players out of money enough anyway. Teams and owners could use another advantage and become more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Polian is clearly on the way out. Didn't he help hire Idzik a little bit? If so, how could he be against numbers? not saying I agree with him, but read the article, he explains in there. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Don't the Bills realize using advanced analytics will make them gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Don't the Bills realize using advanced analytics will make them gay? Gay is the next big thing in NFL. Every team will want a few for new demographic to sell Jerseys to. JN poised to strike when it happens. Mods have been in training for years. recent JN Mod Seminar pic shows that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Must. Not. Read. SJ's. Ever. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Don't the Bills realize using advanced analytics will make them gay? GAY NERDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 GAY NERDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Blah blah have pro bowl QB succeed. Don't and suck. That is scary because it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 That is scary because it is true. yup, going that way for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Gay is the next big thing in NFL. Every team will want a few for new demographic to sell Jerseys to. JN poised to strike when it happens. Mods have been in training for years. recent JN Mod Seminar pic shows that Don't you think the cowboy hat was a little over the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Which is very different from the philosophy the JETS have had. Its called "Pitball". You overpay for under performing and undeserving players in the hope they turnaround. Examples being Sanchez, Santonio, Harris, Pace and so on. Plus don't forget to Trade the best player the Teams ever had.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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