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[CrazyCarl40]

We won those playoff games despite Sanchez. That 2010 Jets team was the best Jet team of all-time by a lot if you remove QB's from the equation.

Put Favre behind center and we win the division AND the Super Bowl in 2010.

An "Anti-Sanchez Breakfast?" lol. Yeah, because there's a mass conspiracy against him. Poor guy. He's a multi-millionaire who bangs hotties and sucks at his job and people just want to hate!

Just like '08!!

Oh, and Favre was terrible in 2010, but lets not let facts get in the way.

[Matt39]

We won those playoff games despite Sanchez. That 2010 Jets team was the best Jet team of all-time by a lot if you remove QB's from the equation.

Put Favre behind center and we win the division AND the Super Bowl in 2010.

An "Anti-Sanchez Breakfast?" lol. Yeah, because there's a mass conspiracy against him. Poor guy. He's a multi-millionaire who bangs hotties and sucks at his job and people just want to hate!

2010 wasnt nearly as good as 1998

[Jetsfan80]

Sanchez allowed the Steelers to go on a 10 minute drive to start the game. Who knew?

Fantasy football is not a game to be trifled with, children.

Some teams in this league get to enjoy fantasy football type performances out of their QB's week in and week out. Some teams get victories out of their QB's even when the rest of the team loses important players to injury or play bad defense. Others at least get QB play that, with the right breaks, get them to a Super Bowl (like the Ravens and Flacco).

Others, like us, think that a game where the defense allows 20+ pts means the game is over and try again next time.

Edited by Jetsfan80, 29 January 2013 - 08:58 AM.

[Jetsfan80]

2010 wasnt nearly as good as 1998

I disagree. If you were to take Testaverde and Sanchez out of the equation, 2010 kicks the crap out of the '98 team. Vinny played great that year.

[Matt39]

I disagree. If you were to take Testaverde and Sanchez out of the equation, 2010 kicks the crap out of the '98 team. Vinny played great that year.

The coaching on the 98 team alone sets it apart. Keyshawn and Chrebet were both beasts...defense made big plays all year.

[Jetsfan80]

Just like '08!!

Oh, and Favre was terrible in 2010, but lets not let facts get in the way.

In '08 we didn't have a top 5 defense and running game. We had Mangini and his conservative defense. Not to mention, the Patriots didn't have Brady that year yet they still couldn't take the division.

Rex + Favre + 2010 roster = Super Bowl.

And a terrible 2010 Favre >>>>>>> Sanchez.

Edited by Jetsfan80, 29 January 2013 - 09:05 AM.

[Jetsfan80]

The coaching on the 98 team alone sets it apart. Keyshawn and Chrebet were both beasts...defense made big plays all year.

It was a tremendous team, that cannot be denied. But say you put Sanchez on that '98 team instead of Vinny. No way they win 12 games.

The 2010 team won 11 games with one of the 3 worst starting QB's in the league. Think about that.

[Matt39]

In '08 we didn't have a top 5 defense and running game. Rex + Favre + 2010 roster = Super Bowl.

And a terrible 2010 Favre >>>>>>> Sanchez.

Why dont you think football is a team sport?

[Matt39]

It was a tremendous team, that cannot be denied. But say you put Sanchez on that '98 team instead of Vinny. No way they win 12 games.

The 2010 team won 11 games with one of the 3 worst starting QB's in the league. Think about that.

Sanchez wasnt atrocious in 2010. And the weapons, coaching on the 98 team > 2010.

Edited by Matt39, 29 January 2013 - 09:05 AM.

[Jetsfan80]

Why dont you think football is a team sport?

We've been through this. Its a team sport where QB play is the most important factor by far, and never has that been more true than right now.. This impacts its dynamics in a major way.

[Jetsfan80]

Sanchez wasnt atrocious in 2010. And the weapons, coaching on the 98 team > 2010.

Actually he was, despite having Holmes, Braylon, LT, Cotchery, and that running game. The 2010 season was what was used to suggest that, with improvement, he could be a good QB. But his numbers by any metric were still at the bottom of the league.

[Matt39]

We've been through this. Its a team sport where QB play is the most important factor by far, and never has that been more true than right now.. This impacts its dynamics in a major way.

No QB, other than Rodgers, was stepping into the Jets situation this season and doing anything remotely positive.

[Matt39]

Actually he was, despite having Holmes, Braylon, LT, Cotchery, and that running game. The 2010 season was what was used to suggest that, with improvement, he could be a good QB. But his numbers by any metric were still at the bottom of the league.

Right. And then all those guys where shown the door the following season for scrubs.

[Jetsfan80]

No QB, other than Rodgers, was stepping into the Jets situation this season and doing anything remotely positive.

Bullsh*t. Drew Brees took the Saints to a 7-9 record, a miracle when you consider they had the worst defense in the league and an interim coach. Brees basically acted as offensive coordinator. You could make a case he was the league MVP, because with an average QB in his shoes, that team goes 1-15. No joke.

The elite QB's would have taken the 2012 Jets to the postseason. The 2nd-tier QB's would have given the team at bare minimum a .500 record.

[Jetsfan80]

Right. And then all those guys where shown the door the following season for scrubs.

Holmes was paid big money to stay. Bad decision, but he was still the right one to keep if you had to choose 1. You didn't exactly see Braylon or Cotchery light up the league the next 2 years. Meanwhile, LT retired.

Burress may have been a scrub, but he still found a way to catch 8 TD's. Pretty freaking remarkable. Its no wonder the lockerroom got blown up when everyone confirmed what we knew all along; Sanchez sucks.

Edited by Jetsfan80, 29 January 2013 - 09:14 AM.

[Matt39]

Bullsh*t. Drew Brees took the Saints to a 7-9 record, a miracle when you consider they had the worst defense in the league and an interim coach. Brees basically acted as offensive coordinator. You could make a case he was the league MVP, because with an average QB in his shoes, that team goes 1-15. No joke.

The elite QB's would have taken the 2012 Jets to the postseason. The 2nd-tier QB's would have given the team at bare minimum a .500 record.

The Jets were not going to the postseason with the weapons they had on offense. The only people that somehow cant comprehend that are the few of you guys here that think the game is solely dependent on the QB.

Gates, Schillens, Cumberland arent NFL players, yet they werre playing big minutes for us all season.

[Matt39]

Holmes was paid big money to stay. Bad decision, but he was still the right one to keep if you had to choose 1. You didn't exactly see Braylon or Cotchery light up the league the next 2 years. Meanwhile, LT retired.

Burress may have been a scrub, but he still found a way to catch 8 TD's. Pretty freaking remarkable. Its no wonder the lockerroom got blown up when everyone confirmed what we knew all along; Sanchez sucks.

Exactly my point. You were overrating the talent the 2010 team had too. None of these guys were studs.

[Scott Dierking]

2010 wasnt nearly as good as 1998

Nor '82

[Jetsfan80]

The Jets were not going to the postseason with the weapons they had on offense. The only people that somehow cant comprehend that are the few of you guys here that think the game is solely dependent on the QB.

Gates, Schillens, Cumberland arent NFL players, yet they werre playing big minutes for us all season.

So you just want to ignore Keller and Kerley? Fine. We've had the weapons argument before.

True, the 2012 weapons were well below average. But if Sanchez has sucked even when he's HAD weapons, what's the common denominator here? Good QB's make their receivers better. Bad ones make people say "lack of weapons" was the reason for failure.

[Jetsfan80]

Exactly my point. You were overrating the talent the 2010 team had too. None of these guys were studs.

LT was a Hall of Famer and played well in his final season for us. Holmes was a Super Bowl MVP, and almost single-handedly won us the Lions and Browns games that season. Braylon was one of the most beloved Jets receivers ever, for no real reason but there you go.

Meanwhile, you're forgetting how good that defense and running game were. The team was full of studs.

Edited by Jetsfan80, 29 January 2013 - 09:19 AM.