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Marshall Faulk: "I'll never be over being cheated out of the Super Bowl."

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The only reason it became such a huge deal with the Patriots was because Mangini was a bitter dick.

Actually no, the only people who try to use that excuse is dipsh*t Pats fans who can't admit that Belichick being an arrogant a$$hole is literally the only reason that whole situation turned out the way it did. Go back and look at how everything went down. Belichick, despite knowing that Mangini was obviously well aware of these tactics, tried to pull that sh*t against the Jets anyway. The Jets caught them and put an end to it. The Pats, again being moronic douchebags, refused to hand over what they had taped of the Jets that day. An argument ensued, which NFL security got involved and they ultimately confiscated the tapes for themselves. I am no fan of Mangini, as he was a pretty awful coach, but that doesn't make him to blame for the Pats going through a series of decisions, all of which were as stupid as humanly possible, that are the sole reason that they got caught red handed. So unless you are suggesting that Mangini should have knowingly let the Pats cheat against them, which would the dumbest argument you could possibly make, he's pretty far down the list of reasons responsible for that mess. Regardless of if it's something every other team in the league was doing, they are still the ones who got caught and it's their own fault.

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Obviously some of the players who were the victims of this cheating are finding it hard to let go. Wonder why ?

Cause theyre attention whores.

Actual cheating in a game is worse than perceived cheating. Im sure all Yankee fans dont count the 1978 world series since Jackson cheated to gain an advantage, :-D

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Orly? I have not lived in New England since 88. I have been to most corners of the world and have run into just about every other team's fan and no one mentions it. It is mentioned on messageboards. Congrats..you are that guy.

the people who mention it are losers who cant get past it and move on. Marshall Faulk. Rams fans. Jets fans.. etc

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Funny. Jets' fans think the former Jets' employee is in bed with the Patriots. Patriots fans thiinnk the opposite :rl:

Oy! Why would the comissioner bury something to hide the fact that everyone does it....because coaches and players said they did it or had seen it done. Jimmie Johnson said he did it for the Chiefs. Vermiel said it has been going on forever.

I know your blind jealousy blurs everything, but at least pay attention.

They are whiny bitches?

Orly? I have not lived in New England since 88. I have been to most corners of the world and have run into just about every other team's fan and no one mentions it. It is mentioned on messageboards. Congrats..you are that guy.

Only thing you are missing is waving those poms poms!

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Cause theyre attention whores.

If you get cheated out of a championship it has got to hurt. After all the efforts these guys put in during the off season, then the season and the post season only to see you got robbed by someone who cheated. And the cheats were not even punished. Goddell eliminated all evidence.

Its gotta hurt. Put yourself in their situation.

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Actually no, the only people who try to use that excuse is dipsh*t Pats fans who can't admit that Belichick being an arrogant a$$hole is literally the only reason that whole situation turned out the way it did. Go back and look at how everything went down. Belichick, despite knowing that Mangini was obviously well aware of these tactics, tried to pull that sh*t against the Jets anyway. The Jets caught them and put an end to it. The Pats, again being moronic douchebags, refused to hand over what they had taped of the Jets that day. An argument ensued, which NFL security got involved and they ultimately confiscated the tapes for themselves. I am no fan of Mangini, as he was a pretty awful coach, but that doesn't make him to blame for the Pats going through a series of decisions, all of which were as stupid as humanly possible, that are the sole reason that they got caught red handed. So unless you are suggesting that Mangini should have knowingly let the Pats cheat against them, which would the dumbest argument you could possibly make, he's pretty far down the list of reasons responsible for that mess. Regardless of if it's something every other team in the league was doing, they are still the ones who got caught and it's their own fault.

Any HC who wasn't aware of taping signals by that time was a moron.

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Any HC who wasn't aware of taping signals by that time was a moron.

Signals to run plays they hadn't run during a game couldn't be stolen during a game. This was about spying on a closed team practice, not walking on the sideline with a camera; a video camera with a good zoom lens would accomplish the same thing from any number of places in the stands or up in the boxes.

With the spying they beat the Rams and their 7000 yard offense with Mike Martz calling plays. Without the spying, they lost to the Jets with 2nd-year pro Mark Sanchez at QB and Brian Schottenheimer calling plays. Probably nothing, though.

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Signals to run plays they hadn't run during a game couldn't be stolen during a game. This was about spying on a closed team practice, not walking on the sideline with a camera; a video camera with a good zoom lens would accomplish the same thing from any number of places in the stands or up in the boxes.

With the spying they beat the Rams and their 7000 yard offense with Mike Martz calling plays. Without the spying, they lost to the Jets with 2nd-year pro Mark Sanchez at QB and Brian Schottenheimer calling plays. Probably nothing, though.

The Pats have the best record in the NFL since Spygate. All that continued references to Spygate are going to do is ensure that Belichick doesn't retire until he wins at least one more Superbowl. I would like to thank Marshall Faulk for making sure that chip stays on Belichick's shoulder.

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the people who mention it are losers who cant get past it and move on. Marshall Faulk. Rams fans. Jets fans.. etc

Isn't your wife a Pats' fan or am I thinking of someone else?

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The Pats have the best record in the NFL since Spygate. All that continued references to Spygate are going to do is ensure that Belichick doesn't retire until he wins at least one more Superbowl. I would like to thank Marshall Faulk for making sure that chip stays on Belichick's shoulder.

that's because the culture of cheating hasn't gone away. you don't really think they stopped cheating, do you ?

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Time to move on

jets fans dont know how to. always live in the past.

This is an article from a former player who feels cheated - whats this got to do with Jets fans?

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The Pats have the best record in the NFL since Spygate. All that continued references to Spygate are going to do is ensure that Belichick doesn't retire until he wins at least one more Superbowl. I would like to thank Marshall Faulk for making sure that chip stays on Belichick's shoulder.

This post is intelligent.

that's because the culture of cheating hasn't gone away. you don't really think they stopped cheating, do you ?

This post is stupid.

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This post is intelligent.

This post is stupid.

Patriots are cheaters and anyone who supports them is a cheater too. Its science.

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The Pats have the best record in the NFL since Spygate. All that continued references to Spygate are going to do is ensure that Belichick doesn't retire until he wins at least one more Superbowl. I would like to thank Marshall Faulk for making sure that chip stays on Belichick's shoulder.

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How many SB rings do they have?

Cheater

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that's because the culture of cheating hasn't gone away. you don't really think they stopped cheating, do you ?

Cheating is ubiquitous wherever there is competition. How many teams do you think are completely free of PEDs for instance? The Chargers were caught using a "stickum-like" substance this last season but no one made a big deal of that because they still sucked. It's not the cheating that people resent; it's the success.

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The Pats have the best record in the NFL since Spygate. All that continued references to Spygate are going to do is ensure that Belichick doesn't retire until he wins at least one more Superbowl. I would like to thank Marshall Faulk for making sure that chip stays on Belichick's shoulder.

Yawn.

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Cheating is ubiquitous wherever there is competition. How many teams do you think are completely free of PEDs for instance? The Chargers were caught using a "stickum-like" substance this last season but no one made a big deal of that because they still sucked. It's not the cheating that people resent; it's the success.

Deflect much ?

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Giants and Steelers have both won 2 SB'ers since spygate, how many have the Patriots won?

Steelers have only won one SB since Spygate actually. But to answer your question, the Patriots have not won a Super Bowl since Spygate. The same can be said of 27 other NFL franchises, including your beloved Jets.

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Cheating is ubiquitous wherever there is competition. How many teams do you think are completely free of PEDs for instance? The Chargers were caught using a "stickum-like" substance this last season but no one made a big deal of that because they still sucked. It's not the cheating that people resent; it's the success.

Haha. Yeah, people love when teams compromise the integrity of the sport and its pushed under the rug.

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Deflect much ?

Call it what you want. I have not denied that the Patriots cheated. I am merely saying that it is not extraordinary. Plenty of organizations in professional sports have cheated and plenty still do cheat.

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Steelers have only won one SB since Spygate actually. But to answer your question, the Patriots have not won a Super Bowl since Spygate. The same can be said of 27 other NFL franchises, including your beloved Jets.

True. My bad.

Either way, I think its safe to say since the Patriots have not won a SB since spygate that the following quote would not apply.

All they've done since Spygate is be the best franchise in football.

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Call it what you want. I have not denied that the Patriots cheated. I am merely saying that it is not extraordinary. Plenty of organizations in professional sports have cheated and plenty still do cheat.

Cheaters.

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True. My bad.

Either way, I think its safe to say since the Patriots have not won a SB since spygate that the following quote would not apply.

It's arguable. I can't fault anyone for picking the Giants over the Patriots in that debate, but the Patriots are still in the discussion.

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