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[Greenseed4]

http://www.rotoworld...b/283/MockDraft

1. KC - Geno Smith, QB
2. JAX - Barkevious Mingo, DE
3. OAK - Star Lotuleili, DT
4. PHI - Luke Joeckel, OT
5. DET - Dee Milliner, WR
6. CLE - Damontre Moore, DE
7. ARI - Mike Glennon, QB
8. BUF - Cordarelle Patterson, WR
9. NYJ - Bjoern Werner, DE
10. TEN - Kenny Vaccaro, S
11. SD - Eric Fisher, OT
12. MIA - Lane Johnson, OT
13. TB - Xavier Rhodes, CB
14. CAR - Sherif Floyd, DT
15. NO - Dion Jordan, OLB
16. STL- Chance Warmack, OG
17. PIT - Jarvis Jones, DE
18. DAL - Sheldon Richardson, DE
19. NYG - Eziekie Ansa, DE
20. CHI - Zach Ertz, TE
21. CIN - Alec Ogletree, OLB
22. STL - Arthur Brown, OLB
23. MIN - Keenan Allen, WR
24. IND - John Cooper, OG
25. SEA - Datone Jones, DE
26. GB - Jonathon Cyprien, S
27. HOU - Deandre Hopkins, WR
28. DEN - Jonathon Hankins, DT
29. NE - Tavon Austin, WR
30. ATL - Travis Kelce, TE
31. SF- Jesse WIlliams, DL
32. BAL- DJ Swearinger, S

[Greenseed4]

If the board falls that way it looks like the sweet spot of the first round is really picks 15-20. Given the little run on OT's two picks away from us we could be in prime position to find a trade down partner.

At the #9 spot in this mock, we have our pick of: B Werner, Jarvis Jones, and both remaining top-3 OTs (Fisher and Johnson).

Miami, who in this mock selects a LT has 2-2nd round picks, and 2-3rd round picks. They might be tempted to leap-frog San Diego (who's expected to kick Jared Gaithers out the door) and get the guy they want...esp, if Jake Long takes off in free agency. Compensation wouldn't have to be extravagant, and we could still land our pick out of (Werner, Jones, Jordan, Warmack, Ziggy, Keenan, Austin, etc).

[Greenseed4]

Sidenote: the author of this mock makes special note of the last two safeties drafted, saying commisioner Gordell is NOT going to like this safety class. Couple guys drafted in the first that I haven't heard of.

-Jonathon Cyprien, S, apparently an "interchangeable physical saftey, with range and aggression"
-DJ Swearinger, S, who delivers "jarring hits" from either safety spot.

[bitonti]

i dont think 1 QB goes before 9, let alone 2. this Qb class eats balls.

also Jarvis Jones at 17? no way the Jets pass on Jarvis Jones.

[Ignatius del Sol]

i dont think 1 QB goes before 9, let alone 2. this Qb class eats balls.

also Jarvis Jones at 17? no way the Jets pass on Jarvis Jones.

Obviously Werner isn't actually going to be there at 9, but I'm pretty sure if he is there's no way the Jets are even thinking about Jarvis Jones.

[bitonti]

Obviously Werner isn't actually going to be there at 9, but I'm pretty sure if he is there's no way the Jets are even thinking about Jarvis Jones.

yeah I agree with that... note that Mingo goes 2 in this mock. We were debating him at 9. This is a really polarizing prospect. I think he could go really really high if he runs well. but the question remains if he's this 4.4 guy why doesn't have more sacks? Personally think Werner is really low risk. Like Chris Long but without a dad in the HOF.

Edited by bitonti, 06 February 2013 - 01:55 PM.

[Greenseed4]

yeah I agree with that... note that Mingo goes 2 in this mock. We were debating him at 9. This is a really polarizing prospect. I think he could go really really high if he runs well. but the question remains if he's this 4.4 guy why doesn't have more sacks? Personally think Werner is really low risk. Like Chris Long but without a dad in the HOF.

What I like about Bark Mingo going #2 is that he actually fits their defense. Having him play the 7-technique or 9-technique is where he'll shine. Bringing a slight-of-frame pass rusher here to play OLB is rolling dice.

I'm not even sure I'd pull the trigger on Werner...I'd try to trade down with him on a pedastil.

[#27TheDominator]

Sidenote: the author of this mock makes special note of the last two safeties drafted, saying commisioner Gordell is NOT going to like this safety class. Couple guys drafted in the first that I haven't heard of.

-Jonathon Cyprien, S, apparently an "interchangeable physical saftey, with range and aggression"
-DJ Swearinger, S, who delivers "jarring hits" from either safety spot.

You never heard of Cyprien? I don't know much about him, but he was apparently looking good at the Senior Bowl. I think he won Best DB or whatever award they have. From Florida International. Not a powerhouse school, but they've put some players in the league. I thought he'd be a nice prospect for the Jets from what I read, but that was when they were talking mid-rounds.

[sirlancemehlot]

What I like about Bark Mingo going #2 is that he actually fits their defense. Having him play the 7-technique or 9-technique is where he'll shine. Bringing a slight-of-frame pass rusher here to play OLB is rolling dice.

I'm not even sure I'd pull the trigger on Werner...I'd try to trade down with him on a pedastil.

I want to start building an offense so badly after watchin the Super Bowl and seeing dominant Olines, dominant recievers, dominant running backs, and above-average QB play. The Jets have none of that. There is not a single aspect of the game where our team could swap a unit with the 9ers or Ravens and still have a chance at winning. Wr...nope, Rb....nope, OL...nope, TE...nope, Qb...hell nope. That being said...Bjoern Werner is he one guy I'd make an exception for. He's the right kind of player with an awesome skillset and high motor..a solid guy in love with football and willing to throw his body into every tackle. He's the Anti-Coples, and could have a good impact on QC. If he's there at 9, he's a Jet if I'm picking.

[SenorGato]

Wouldnt the Anti-Coples suck at football?

[bitonti]

There is not a single aspect of the game where our team could swap a unit with the 9ers or Ravens and still have a chance at winning. OL...nope,

the oL gets crapped on but let's be real they are about as good as teh Ravens unit. Mangold and Yanda cancel each other out. Brick is a better left tackle than Oher and McKinnie. Moore and Osemele are about a wash on the field (osemele is much younger). obviously Austin and Slauson aren't great but yes the Ravens could have the Jets OL and still win the Super Bowl. Neither the Ravens nor the Jets have as good a unit as the Niners... but the Niners also lost so at a certain point having a great OL isn't as important as having a good OL and many other pieces.

[RyanBe_Tebowing]

No Manti Te'o in the first???? I understand him falling, but out of the first round??? I don't think the Ravens pass on him if he falls to 32.

[unbanmadmike1]

Obviously Werner isn't actually going to be there at 9, but I'm pretty sure if he is there's no way the Jets are even thinking about Jarvis Jones.

They shouldn't be thinking of Werner either. They have too many holes on O.

[Ignatius del Sol]

What I like about Bark Mingo going #2 is that he actually fits their defense. Having him play the 7-technique or 9-technique is where he'll shine. Bringing a slight-of-frame pass rusher here to play OLB is rolling dice.

Playing 7- and 9-technique is exactly what Mingo would be doing for us. Don't get hung up on terminology.

[Ignatius del Sol]

They shouldn't be thinking of Werner either. They have too many holes on O.

There are zero offensive prospects in this draft that are anywhere near as good as Werner is. He's at the top of the Jets' board for sure.

[unbanmadmike1]

There are zero offensive prospects in this draft that are anywhere near as good as Werner is. He's at the top of the Jets' board for sure.

Warmack is who they should be taking. Werner would play a position they have just drafted two guys at the last 2 years and he's not going to be the impact pass rusher the Jets need.

[sirlancemehlot]

Wouldnt the Anti-Coples suck at football?

No, the knock on Coples is that he was raw and had questionable work ethic. I happen to think Coples will be a good one, especially when contract time comes around ala Bryan Thomas. Werner will play balls out for a handshake and a ham sandwich.

[unbanmadmike1]

No, the knock on Coples is that he was raw and had questionable work ethic. I happen to think Coples will be a good one, especially when contract time comes around ala Bryan Thomas. Werner will play balls out for a handshake and a ham sandwich.

But you can't trade Coples for Werner. You have to roll with coples and stop drafting 3-4 ends.

[bitonti]

No Manti Te'o in the first???? I understand him falling, but out of the first round??? I don't think the Ravens pass on him if he falls to 32.

Te'o belongs in the 2nd round. There are other good ILB like Kevin Minter and Alex Ogletree... with far less baggage. No team can trot T'eo out for a press conference as a 1st round pick right now. Besides the fact he was terrible against Bama.

[unbanmadmike1]

Te'o belongs in the 2nd round. There are other good ILB like Kevin Minter and Alex Ogletree... with far less baggage. No team can trot T'eo out for a press conference as a 1st round pick right now. Besides the fact he was terrible against Bama.

He's probably getting undervalued but I don't want him here.