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[jgb]

If Sanchez were to get his act together I like to pretend it would be more explosive than Alex Pennington.

 

just want to point out that diarrhea can also be explosive

[jack48]

if the Jets cut him they pay him 8.5 mil to hold a clipboard for another team.  I say look for FA or mid rounders and pay him 8.5 to hold a clip board here. 

Yes.  Trading him seems to be out of the question.

[jack48]

I have zero belief that Sanchez can turn it around.  And I do not think Idzik wants him on the field getting booed for the entire home season of his first year. I imagine he holds a clipboard-that sounds like what the jets would do.  But----would they  even want him on the field after an injury to the starter?   I think not. So why......oh never mind.   I just want him gone.  I hope they do too.

[SenorGato]

just want to point out that diarrhea can also be explosive

The Pennington brothers OTOH...A slow and steady sh*t.

Edited by SenorGato, 22 February 2013 - 03:15 PM.

[billo83]

That money is hitting our cap no matter what.  Since it's Sanchez we're talking about, it's dead money whether he's here or not.

 

Might as well not poison 2014 and beyond, which is what keeping him this year does.

How would 2014 be poisoned?

 

I can imagine the meltdown in this place if Sanchez  was cut and picked up by another team and goes on to have a good year. It would be epic. If there is no cap savings by cutting him, why not try getting something out of him? He's certainly better than McSack, so at worst you make Sanchez the 3rd stringer and competition. At least you get something out of  it.

 

I look at it this way, you're playing with house money. Why not take a gamble and see if he finally "gets it"? If not, you lose nothing and he's gone in 2014. Otherwise you get a payoff to some degree.

 

I think the intense hatred of Sanchez blinds some people around here.

[SouthernJet]

How would 2014 be poisoned?

 

I can imagine the meltdown in this place if Sanchez  was cut and picked up by another team and goes on to have a good year. It would be epic. If there is no cap savings by cutting him, why not try getting something out of him? He's certainly better than McSack, so at worst you make Sanchez the 3rd stringer and competition. At least you get something out of  it.

 

I look at it this way, you're playing with house money. Why not take a gamble and see if he finally "gets it"? If not, you lose nothing and he's gone in 2014. Otherwise you get a payoff to some degree.

 

I think the intense hatred of Sanchez blinds some people around here.

I think Sperm may also be alluding to fact that Sanchez might not be best for Locker Room at this point, especially if he loses job to a incoming FA or draft pick.

[billo83]

I think Sperm may also be alluding to fact that Sanchez might not be best for Locker Room at this point, especially if he loses job to a incoming FA or draft pick.

OK, then fine him for conduct detrimental to the team to the extent possible and then cut him if it does become a distraction. Sanchez pouts, but I don't see him  being a cancer - not if he wants to catch on with another team anyway.

 

Regardless, as I said you are playing with house money so if the worst should happen cut his a$$.

[#27TheDominator]

I didn't see anything wrong with how Sanchez conducted himself after being benched.  He seemed supportive to me. He seemed to have a better attitude as a backup than as a sulky starter. 

[Sperm Edwards]

How would 2014 be poisoned?

 

I can imagine the meltdown in this place if Sanchez  was cut and picked up by another team and goes on to have a good year. It would be epic. If there is no cap savings by cutting him, why not try getting something out of him? He's certainly better than McSack, so at worst you make Sanchez the 3rd stringer and competition. At least you get something out of  it.

 

I look at it this way, you're playing with house money. Why not take a gamble and see if he finally "gets it"? If not, you lose nothing and he's gone in 2014. Otherwise you get a payoff to some degree.

 

I think the intense hatred of Sanchez blinds some people around here.

 

Because millions will hit the cap in 2014.  And whatever extra cap room we don't use in 2014 won't get pushed to 2015 (and so on, for as long as we have any extra space).

 

If we cut him now, he has zero hit in 2014.

 

If we keep him now, he has a $5M hit in 2014 if we DON'T keep him.

 

If we keep him in 2014 (not happening)

 

 

Intense hatred of Sanchez? It's intense hatred of a horrible QB who has gobbled up massive amounts of cap room and is the reason we don't have a SB ring.  Can't expect shutouts & near-shutouts every week.

 

Lastly, he is not going elsewhere and doing well.  Just stop with that.  You are as likely to become a good QB as Sanchez is.  He's flat-out awful.  Except for selling the play-action well (big whoop) I can't think of a single thing he's good or even acceptably mediocre at. He's a bum.

[Sperm Edwards]

I think Sperm may also be alluding to fact that Sanchez might not be best for Locker Room at this point, especially if he loses job to a incoming FA or draft pick.

 

Nah.  I just want him gone.  Jets are not winning a SB this year so it makes little sense to me to prolong the poisoning of our cap space into 2014.

 

Actually I think he does have some trade value - maybe as high as a 4th - if we agree to eat all but $1M of his salary.  I would take that instantly, before the other team comes to its senses.

[#27TheDominator]

I am not in favor of tanking the season and I am not in favor of this take all our lumps on salary this year.  They will  have plenty of money next year.  Having a ton of cap space just leads to overspending on guys.  Get a good guy or two this year and don't be afraid to push a small amount to next year.  Certainly not the prorated portion of the Sanchez bonus.

[flgreen]

How would 2014 be poisoned?

 

I can imagine the meltdown in this place if Sanchez  was cut and picked up by another team and goes on to have a good year. It would be epic. If there is no cap savings by cutting him, why not try getting something out of him? He's certainly better than McSack, so at worst you make Sanchez the 3rd stringer and competition. At least you get something out of  it.

 

I look at it this way, you're playing with house money. Why not take a gamble and see if he finally "gets it"? If not, you lose nothing and he's gone in 2014. Otherwise you get a payoff to some degree.

 

I think the intense hatred of Sanchez blinds some people around here.

For better or worst, that is exactly what the Jets are going to do.

 

Worst thing that can happen is Sanchez has a decent year.  Team goes 9-7 is one and done in playoffs.  At this point it doesn't look like next years QB draft is much better then this year's.  We'll be going through this again next off season

[Sperm Edwards]

Holmes is talented, but--next to Sanchez--he's the guy who really destroyed the team for Rex. Not holding him--or Sanchez--accountable for screwing the team, particularly after last season's Philly game, turned the locker room. Sanchez exposed Tannenbaum, but Holmes is the one who exposed Rex.

 

Just throw him the damn ball.

[Maxman]

Sanchez is going to win the starting job.

[faba]

Sanchez is going to win the starting job.

So who do you think is going to be his competition? What Experienced QB will will bring in?

[Jetsouth]

At least we know why Sanchez stayed *in place* last year.. they knew he had to be QB again this year, no way were they going

to allow any real competition.  There won't be any this year either..

[billo83]

Because millions will hit the cap in 2014.  And whatever extra cap room we don't use in 2014 won't get pushed to 2015 (and so on, for as long as we have any extra space).

 

If we cut him now, he has zero hit in 2014.

 

If we keep him now, he has a $5M hit in 2014 if we DON'T keep him.

 

If we keep him in 2014 (not happening)

 

 

Intense hatred of Sanchez? It's intense hatred of a horrible QB who has gobbled up massive amounts of cap room and is the reason we don't have a SB ring.  Can't expect shutouts & near-shutouts every week.

 

Lastly, he is not going elsewhere and doing well.  Just stop with that.  You are as likely to become a good QB as Sanchez is.  He's flat-out awful.  Except for selling the play-action well (big whoop) I can't think of a single thing he's good or even acceptably mediocre at. He's a bum.

 

And it's a much bigger cap hit than 8.5 if they cut him this year, no?

 

If it's going to cost me at least 8.5 million now matter what, I'd rather see what I  can get out of him. He's at rock bottom right now, so there's nowhere to go but up. Maybe with a new QB coach coach (Cavanuagh was worthless) and OC, and some decent receivers, juts maybe you'll get something out of him. Last season he was crippled with JV receivers, no protection, his favorite target and safety valve out for half the season, and an absolute moron calling the plays.

 

Now I'm not making excuses for Sanchez, nor am I a big of his. But given the circumstances of last season, I can't see him doing any worse and more that likely play better. So since it's already costing you a bundle, why not see what you can get out of him. I'd rather bring in legit competition and let Sanchez try to win the job. I'd rather see Sanchez on the roster than McSack given that it's costing 9 mil no matter what.

 

Yes, there is intense hatred of Sanchez, a lot of justified. However, I think a lot of the hatred is because of the riduculous salary he gets. I could tell from your comment that burns you. Well, blame Tanny 100% on that one. Is Sanchez supossed to turn that down, and say he's got to earn it first? Would you do that?

[Bugg]

Sanchez is going to win the starting job.

That really cannot happen. We need MCElroy or Stanton or free ageny, draftee or tradee QB X here.

 

I'm with Sperm; there's no point to Sanchez. Get rid of him sooner rather than later and while 2013 will still suck(a given) at least you open up big cap room in 2014.

 

Idzik will pay lip service to the idea of ning in 2013 because that's the job. Wrecks will play along because whether he pulls an unlikely great season in 2013 and secures a Jets HC contract for 2014  or the team screws the pooch and he's looking for hisn ext DC gig next January, he has a reputation to maintain.We're going to be told this is a young team filled with young guys with promise learning on the job. It may even be true. That we can hope for.

[Bugg]

I didn't see anything wrong with how Sanchez conducted himself after being benched.  He seemed supportive to me. He seemed to have a better attitude as a backup than as a sulky starter. 

If you contrast Sanchez's pouty crap after numerous INTs with how Eli Manning dealt with such situations early in his career I beg to differ.

[billo83]

For better or worst, that is exactly what the Jets are going to do.

 

Worst thing that can happen is Sanchez has a decent year.  Team goes 9-7 is one and done in playoffs.  At this point it doesn't look like next years QB draft is much better then this year's.  We'll be going through this again next off season

I don't think that's such a bad thing. At worst, it may increase Sanchez trade value.

 

If I were the Jets,I would draft a QB this year and next. Let this years draft pick learn while Sanchez starts (assuming he wins the job against any potential FA aquisitions) .  Repeat cycle next year. I remember reading a post here that said you should draft a QB every year. I agree with this and given the Jets history, it certainly couldn't hurt to try and find your franchise QB this way.