kelly Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 There seems to be a certain amount of confusion regarding the Darrelle Revis situation, the Jets' cap situation, restructuring contracts, and various and sundry other messy details. I'm going to attempt to address many of the most common misconceptions being spread by the media and others and shed some light on what is really going on. Read on if you can stand exploring some of the arcane details necessary for a better understanding of these issues. Myth #1: The Jets cannot restructure Mark Sanchez' contract (or fill in the blank with your favorite outsize contract) because he would be a fool to accept less money. Reality: Restructuring contracts more often than not does not involve the player accepting less money. It CAN, and sometimes does, but more often restructuring a contract leaves the total guaranteed $ in place. What happens is base salary (which is always fully applied to the current year salary cap) is converted into signing bonus (which can be spread out in equal annual amounts over up to 5 years). So, as an example, if player X has a 2013 contract with a base salary of $12 million, all guaranteed, all of that $12 million would count against the 2013 cap. But if we converted $10 million of it into a signing bonus, the cap hit for that $10 million would be spread out over 5 years, making the cap hit as follows: 2013 $4 million ($2 million in remaining base salary plus $2 million prorated signing bonus). 2014-2017 $2 million each year in prorated signing bonus. Thus player X still gets all his guaranteed money, but the cap hit for 2013 is reduced from $12 million to $4 million. If you really want to get creative, you can even delay payment of the signing bonus until 2014 (or later), further reducing the 2013 cap hit to just $2 million, at the cost of further extending the cap hit into later years. The point here is Sanchez (or anyone else) does not have to be a fool to restructure his contract and provide the Jets cap relief. Restructuring contracts need not cost the player a cent. Whether or not it is advisable for the Jets to push out the cap hits into later years is an entirely different issue. It may well be the Jets would be fools for restructuring certain contracts -- the players, however, should not have a problem with it. That brings us to... Myth #2: Santonio Holmes (or David Harris, or choose your favorite outsized contract) is untradable because his contract is so large no team would want to take it on. Reality: No player who still is capable of playing in the NFL is completely untradable. As we discussed above, any player can have his contract restructured. The acquiring team in a trade picks up base salary and any currently unearned roster, workout and reporting bonuses. All prorated signing bonuses stay with the team trading the player, and are immediately accelerated into the current cap year. Trading any player with any value as a player (i.e., maybe not Tebow, or Sanchez) is not impossible. You simply have to get the cap figure for the acquiring team down enough to make the player attractive at that cap figure. The way to do that is to convert base salary into signing bonus. So, as an example, Santonio Holmes has a 2013 cap figure of $12,500,000, with $11 million in base salary. Any team acquiring that contract would be taking on $11 million in cap space, too much for a player like Holmes. But convert say $8,000,000 of his base salary into a signing bonus, and the cap hit for the acquiring team becomes a very manageable $3 million. Just like that, an untradable player becomes eminently tradable. There are two caveats to this. First, doing a deal like this creates dead money. In the Holmes example, we now have $8 million on the cap which is going to a player no longer on the team -- dead money. It is not ideal, and you can only do so much of this kind of thing before half the cap is being spent on other teams' players, but in small doses for the right trades it works. The other caveat is that you have to convince the player to restructure. As a monetary matter this shouldn't be difficult, as the restructuring preserves all of the player's money and in fact gets it to him faster. However, the player in effect has a no trade clause, in that if he hates the idea of playing for the new team, he has only to refuse to restructure. In that case you either have to find a more palatable team to trade with or sweeten the pot for the player. In most cases it should be doable, if the Jets are highly motivated to get the deal done, but the player can and occasionally does throw up a roadblock to a trade. Myth #3: The Jets are in salary cap hell in 2013 and simply have no way of affording anything other than bargain basement players. Reality: The Jets can afford to be major players in the free agent market, if they are so inclined. The Jets right now are already under the cap by enough to afford their draft class and sign one pretty good free agent. If the Jets want to go all in for 2013, they have significant room under current contracts to restructure and create ample space under the cap. Sanchez, Harris, Holmes, Cromartie, Ferguson, Mangold collectively represent as much as $40 million in base salary, roster bonuses, workout bonuses and reporting bonuses that can be restructured into signing bonuses that are prorated, moving as much as $32 million into later years' cap. This may or may not be something the Jets should do, and it may or may not be something Idzik decides to do, but it is most definitely something the Jets CAN do. If the Jets only sign bargain basement players in 2013, it should be understood that this was a CHOICE the Jets made after considering what was in the best interests of the organization, not something forced on them by an impossible cap situation. Myth #4: The Jets cannot afford to re-sign Revis under the 2013 cap. Reality: Revis is signed through the end of 2013. Any extension will rip up the voidable years of his contract (2014-2016) and replace them with something much larger in $. But it will only effect the 2013 cap figure if the Jets choose to structure it this way. If the Jets choose it is not at all difficult to restructure in such a way that 2013 remains untouched. It is even possible, though unlikely, to restructure in a way that LOWERS the 2013 cap figure (for example, by converting some of his $6 million in base salary and non-proratable bonus money in 2013 into a signing bonus, and prorating this into future years). Affording Revis will not be easy, but the current cap situation should not pose any impediment to getting it done. And 2014 cap room is more than ample to fit Revis in. The Jets can afford Revis. The question is, do they want to? Myth #5: Sanchez's contract impacts the Jets' ability to fit Revis under the cap. Reality: Sanchez's contract is structured in such a way that all his guaranteed money will be paid out by the end of the 2013 season. By 2014 the Jets can afford to cut Sanchez. Since Sanchez only has an outsize effect on the Jets cap in 2013, and a new Revis contract would only effect the Jets cap space in 2014 and beyond, the two are completely unrelated issues. So long as the Jets don't move most of Sanchez's cap $ into 2014, Sanchez's contract will have no effect on the Jets' ability to fit Revis under the cap. Myth #6: If Revis is traded he will bring back a package of 2013 draft picks. Reality: It's possible but not probable. Revis is unlikely to be traded before the 2013 draft. Here’s why. First, he will not even be running until early April at the earliest. That’s straight line running, no cuts. No doctor in the world can at that stage of the recovery accurately predict how the knee will hold up in game conditions, hence no meaningful medical approval is possible. All they can say is he is progressing reasonably well so far. Teams will want to see him actually play cornerback. AP is NOT a template. Peterson's recovery was such an outlier in terms of how quickly he came back it was pretty much a medical miracle. This is the gold standard of recoveries -- it is silly to think all future recoveries will follow the same miraculous course. Revis is already 2 1/2 months behind AP. Plus a significant % of guys NEVER return to their former form. Putting aside the health issues, which I think almost everyone is WAY too confident about, there is an even more fundamental reason Revis will not be traded for 2013 picks: his contract. If Revis is traded PRIOR to June 1st, all cap ramifications flow into the 2013 cap. Those ramifications are as follows: a net $4 million INCREASE to the Jets cap #, even after accounting for the trading partner picking up his base salary and roster bonus, due to the prorated bonus money which will be immediately accelerated. Bottom line, as of now Revis counts $9 million against the 2013 cap. If he is traded prior to June 1 he will count $13 million against the 2013 cap. It gets worse. Suppose he is traded for a single #1 pick. That pick will cost an additional $2 million or so against the cap, bringing the total cap hit to $6 million, and in effect meaning Revis will cost us $15 million in 2013 cap space. If we got more high picks, the effect would of course be even worse. Compare that to simply waiting until after June 1. Then all prorated cap money would be counted against the 2014 cap. Bottom line: $9 million in prorated money would be accelerated into the 2014 cap, not the 2013 cap. Revis would then count only $4 million against the cap, and the picks would be 2014 picks, counting zero against the 2013 cap. Net result: simply waiting until after June 1 to trade him will save the Jets a whopping $11 million or more (depending on the return package of picks) in 2013 cap space. The Jets may be hell bent to trade Revis as soon as possible and take the entire cap hit in 2013. If so it pretty much signals that Idzik is writing off the 2013 season. I consider this highly unlikely, but not impossible. By simply waiting until after June 1 to trade Revis, if that is what the Jets wish to do, the Jets save at least $11 million in 2013 cap space, at the cost of that cap hit taking place in 2014. Since the Jets are in far better shape cap wise in 2014, I consider it far more likely that if Revis is traded, he will be traded for 2014 picks. Myth #7: If Revis is lost to free agency, the Jets will get a 3rd round compensatory draft pick. Reality: The Jets will receive a 3rd round pick as compensation for Revis ONLY if the Jets do not sign any notable free agents in 2014. Compensation is intended to be for NET losses; i.e., weighing how much a team gained by signing FAs vs. how much they lost by other teams' signing their FAs. Since as it now stands the Jets will have considerable cap space in 2014, the likelihood of the Jets failing to sign any notable free agents is pretty low. If they do sign high end free agents of their own, then the compensation for Revis will be reduced accordingly. If the Jets sign enough FAs in 2014, then they may get no compensation at all for Revis. Myth #8: The Jets cannot cut Player X because it would leave them with too much dead money. Reality: Teams don't like dead money. It's money that counts against the cap being spent on players no longer with the team. In an ideal world you would never have any dead money. But the reality is dead money is already spent, and will count against the cap whether or not Player X is cut. So the only real issue is, does cutting Player X help the team? If it does, Player X can be cut, regardless of dead money. I can think of at least 2 scenarios where this is the case. The first: cutting Player X frees up enough cap space to make the dead money worthwhile. So, for example, if Player X is no longer good enough to play, and cutting him will result in $4 million in dead money but $7 million in cap savings, Player X should be cut, dead money or no dead money. The second scenario is where having a player on the team would result in a fractured locker room, or the player is a terrible influence on the team or undermines the coaches' authority. Then you have to get rid of him, dead money or no. Dead money is always a consideration, and too much dead money cripples your cap situation, but there is always the possibility that cutting a player and eating the dead money is in the best interests of the team. Myth #9: The Jets talk too much. Reality: This may be the most pervasive and pernicious myth of all Jets myths. The truth is, Tone talks some. Cro talks some. Scott talks some. But none of them are over the top. And.. and... who else? The Jets don't talk any more than almost any other team. Richard Sherman does more talking than all the Jets players combined, and I don't hear anything about how the Seahawks talk too much. There is one reason and only one reason this myth got started: Rex Ryan. Rex in the early days did nothing but run his mouth. However, even Rex doesn't really talk much these days, other than to compliment other teams. The notion that the Jets talk too much is a tired and outdated caricature that should be put to rest permanently. I hope I have set some things straight here. But what about you? What Jets myths would you like to see put to rest? > i saw this on " another fan site " . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 For Mark it is just better to take this year salary and not hurt us in future years- sad but reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 If "Jets talk too much" is one of the myths that needs busting, then it's probably true. LOL *yawn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The problem with the analysis on Sanchez's cap number is that it ignores the fact that the player also has a base salary in those "years" you've pushed the signing bonus off to. And "years" is really "year" because we're not keeping him at the salaries outlined under that Tannenbaum extension anyway. So if you make almost all of his salary into signing bonus (can't completely, as he has a minimum NFL salary), and count just under $2M/year as bonus money, it's absurd. $2M/year for '13, '14, '15, and '16 (and therefore saving $5.5M give or take for '13) is - or should be - a theoretical fantasy. He's getting cut after '13 unless he's willing to take a true $10M paycut. So then for '14 you've got $2M = the '14 bonus allotment of this new bonus $4M = the accelerated '15 and '16 allotment of this new bonus $5M = the accelerated '14-'16 of prior bonus from his extension ----- $11M = total cap hit to cut prior to 2014. (Oh yeah, and he still counts over $7M this year as well). Compare that to keeping doing nothing and cutting him prior to 2014 ($13M this year and $5M next year) or cutting him outright before he gets his $500K workout bonus ($17M this year and nothing next year & beyond). Converting almost all of his salary to new signing bonus, and passing it off as being a good thing, is the Jets myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 There seems to be a certain amount of confusion regarding the Darrelle Revis situation, the Jets' cap situation, restructuring contracts, and various and sundry other messy details. I'm going to attempt to address many of the most common misconceptions being spread by the media and others and shed some light on what is really going on. Read on if you can stand exploring some of the arcane details necessary for a better understanding of these issues. Myth #1: The Jets cannot restructure Mark Sanchez' contract (or fill in the blank with your favorite outsize contract) because he would be a fool to accept less money. Reality: Restructuring contracts more often than not does not involve the player accepting less money. It CAN, and sometimes does, but more often restructuring a contract leaves the total guaranteed $ in place. What happens is base salary (which is always fully applied to the current year salary cap) is converted into signing bonus (which can be spread out in equal annual amounts over up to 5 years). So, as an example, if player X has a 2013 contract with a base salary of $12 million, all guaranteed, all of that $12 million would count against the 2013 cap. But if we converted $10 million of it into a signing bonus, the cap hit for that $10 million would be spread out over 5 years, making the cap hit as follows: 2013 $4 million ($2 million in remaining base salary plus $2 million prorated signing bonus). 2014-2017 $2 million each year in prorated signing bonus. Thus player X still gets all his guaranteed money, but the cap hit for 2013 is reduced from $12 million to $4 million. If you really want to get creative, you can even delay payment of the signing bonus until 2014 (or later), further reducing the 2013 cap hit to just $2 million, at the cost of further extending the cap hit into later years. The point here is Sanchez (or anyone else) does not have to be a fool to restructure his contract and provide the Jets cap relief. Restructuring contracts need not cost the player a cent. Whether or not it is advisable for the Jets to push out the cap hits into later years is an entirely different issue. It may well be the Jets would be fools for restructuring certain contracts -- the players, however, should not have a problem with it. That brings us to... Myth #2: Santonio Holmes (or David Harris, or choose your favorite outsized contract) is untradable because his contract is so large no team would want to take it on. Reality: No player who still is capable of playing in the NFL is completely untradable. As we discussed above, any player can have his contract restructured. The acquiring team in a trade picks up base salary and any currently unearned roster, workout and reporting bonuses. All prorated signing bonuses stay with the team trading the player, and are immediately accelerated into the current cap year. Trading any player with any value as a player (i.e., maybe not Tebow, or Sanchez) is not impossible. You simply have to get the cap figure for the acquiring team down enough to make the player attractive at that cap figure. The way to do that is to convert base salary into signing bonus. So, as an example, Santonio Holmes has a 2013 cap figure of $12,500,000, with $11 million in base salary. Any team acquiring that contract would be taking on $11 million in cap space, too much for a player like Holmes. But convert say $8,000,000 of his base salary into a signing bonus, and the cap hit for the acquiring team becomes a very manageable $3 million. Just like that, an untradable player becomes eminently tradable. There are two caveats to this. First, doing a deal like this creates dead money. In the Holmes example, we now have $8 million on the cap which is going to a player no longer on the team -- dead money. It is not ideal, and you can only do so much of this kind of thing before half the cap is being spent on other teams' players, but in small doses for the right trades it works. The other caveat is that you have to convince the player to restructure. As a monetary matter this shouldn't be difficult, as the restructuring preserves all of the player's money and in fact gets it to him faster. However, the player in effect has a no trade clause, in that if he hates the idea of playing for the new team, he has only to refuse to restructure. In that case you either have to find a more palatable team to trade with or sweeten the pot for the player. In most cases it should be doable, if the Jets are highly motivated to get the deal done, but the player can and occasionally does throw up a roadblock to a trade. Myth #3: The Jets are in salary cap hell in 2013 and simply have no way of affording anything other than bargain basement players. Reality: The Jets can afford to be major players in the free agent market, if they are so inclined. The Jets right now are already under the cap by enough to afford their draft class and sign one pretty good free agent. If the Jets want to go all in for 2013, they have significant room under current contracts to restructure and create ample space under the cap. Sanchez, Harris, Holmes, Cromartie, Ferguson, Mangold collectively represent as much as $40 million in base salary, roster bonuses, workout bonuses and reporting bonuses that can be restructured into signing bonuses that are prorated, moving as much as $32 million into later years' cap. This may or may not be something the Jets should do, and it may or may not be something Idzik decides to do, but it is most definitely something the Jets CAN do. If the Jets only sign bargain basement players in 2013, it should be understood that this was a CHOICE the Jets made after considering what was in the best interests of the organization, not something forced on them by an impossible cap situation. Myth #4: The Jets cannot afford to re-sign Revis under the 2013 cap. Reality: Revis is signed through the end of 2013. Any extension will rip up the voidable years of his contract (2014-2016) and replace them with something much larger in $. But it will only effect the 2013 cap figure if the Jets choose to structure it this way. If the Jets choose it is not at all difficult to restructure in such a way that 2013 remains untouched. It is even possible, though unlikely, to restructure in a way that LOWERS the 2013 cap figure (for example, by converting some of his $6 million in base salary and non-proratable bonus money in 2013 into a signing bonus, and prorating this into future years). Affording Revis will not be easy, but the current cap situation should not pose any impediment to getting it done. And 2014 cap room is more than ample to fit Revis in. The Jets can afford Revis. The question is, do they want to? Myth #5: Sanchez's contract impacts the Jets' ability to fit Revis under the cap. Reality: Sanchez's contract is structured in such a way that all his guaranteed money will be paid out by the end of the 2013 season. By 2014 the Jets can afford to cut Sanchez. Since Sanchez only has an outsize effect on the Jets cap in 2013, and a new Revis contract would only effect the Jets cap space in 2014 and beyond, the two are completely unrelated issues. So long as the Jets don't move most of Sanchez's cap $ into 2014, Sanchez's contract will have no effect on the Jets' ability to fit Revis under the cap. Myth #6: If Revis is traded he will bring back a package of 2013 draft picks. Reality: It's possible but not probable. Revis is unlikely to be traded before the 2013 draft. Here’s why. First, he will not even be running until early April at the earliest. That’s straight line running, no cuts. No doctor in the world can at that stage of the recovery accurately predict how the knee will hold up in game conditions, hence no meaningful medical approval is possible. All they can say is he is progressing reasonably well so far. Teams will want to see him actually play cornerback. AP is NOT a template. Peterson's recovery was such an outlier in terms of how quickly he came back it was pretty much a medical miracle. This is the gold standard of recoveries -- it is silly to think all future recoveries will follow the same miraculous course. Revis is already 2 1/2 months behind AP. Plus a significant % of guys NEVER return to their former form. Putting aside the health issues, which I think almost everyone is WAY too confident about, there is an even more fundamental reason Revis will not be traded for 2013 picks: his contract. If Revis is traded PRIOR to June 1st, all cap ramifications flow into the 2013 cap. Those ramifications are as follows: a net $4 million INCREASE to the Jets cap #, even after accounting for the trading partner picking up his base salary and roster bonus, due to the prorated bonus money which will be immediately accelerated. Bottom line, as of now Revis counts $9 million against the 2013 cap. If he is traded prior to June 1 he will count $13 million against the 2013 cap. It gets worse. Suppose he is traded for a single #1 pick. That pick will cost an additional $2 million or so against the cap, bringing the total cap hit to $6 million, and in effect meaning Revis will cost us $15 million in 2013 cap space. If we got more high picks, the effect would of course be even worse. Compare that to simply waiting until after June 1. Then all prorated cap money would be counted against the 2014 cap. Bottom line: $9 million in prorated money would be accelerated into the 2014 cap, not the 2013 cap. Revis would then count only $4 million against the cap, and the picks would be 2014 picks, counting zero against the 2013 cap. Net result: simply waiting until after June 1 to trade him will save the Jets a whopping $11 million or more (depending on the return package of picks) in 2013 cap space. The Jets may be hell bent to trade Revis as soon as possible and take the entire cap hit in 2013. If so it pretty much signals that Idzik is writing off the 2013 season. I consider this highly unlikely, but not impossible. By simply waiting until after June 1 to trade Revis, if that is what the Jets wish to do, the Jets save at least $11 million in 2013 cap space, at the cost of that cap hit taking place in 2014. Since the Jets are in far better shape cap wise in 2014, I consider it far more likely that if Revis is traded, he will be traded for 2014 picks. Myth #7: If Revis is lost to free agency, the Jets will get a 3rd round compensatory draft pick. Reality: The Jets will receive a 3rd round pick as compensation for Revis ONLY if the Jets do not sign any notable free agents in 2014. Compensation is intended to be for NET losses; i.e., weighing how much a team gained by signing FAs vs. how much they lost by other teams' signing their FAs. Since as it now stands the Jets will have considerable cap space in 2014, the likelihood of the Jets failing to sign any notable free agents is pretty low. If they do sign high end free agents of their own, then the compensation for Revis will be reduced accordingly. If the Jets sign enough FAs in 2014, then they may get no compensation at all for Revis. Myth #8: The Jets cannot cut Player X because it would leave them with too much dead money. Reality: Teams don't like dead money. It's money that counts against the cap being spent on players no longer with the team. In an ideal world you would never have any dead money. But the reality is dead money is already spent, and will count against the cap whether or not Player X is cut. So the only real issue is, does cutting Player X help the team? If it does, Player X can be cut, regardless of dead money. I can think of at least 2 scenarios where this is the case. The first: cutting Player X frees up enough cap space to make the dead money worthwhile. So, for example, if Player X is no longer good enough to play, and cutting him will result in $4 million in dead money but $7 million in cap savings, Player X should be cut, dead money or no dead money. The second scenario is where having a player on the team would result in a fractured locker room, or the player is a terrible influence on the team or undermines the coaches' authority. Then you have to get rid of him, dead money or no. Dead money is always a consideration, and too much dead money cripples your cap situation, but there is always the possibility that cutting a player and eating the dead money is in the best interests of the team. Myth #9: The Jets talk too much. Reality: This may be the most pervasive and pernicious myth of all Jets myths. The truth is, Tone talks some. Cro talks some. Scott talks some. But none of them are over the top. And.. and... who else? The Jets don't talk any more than almost any other team. Richard Sherman does more talking than all the Jets players combined, and I don't hear anything about how the Seahawks talk too much. There is one reason and only one reason this myth got started: Rex Ryan. Rex in the early days did nothing but run his mouth. However, even Rex doesn't really talk much these days, other than to compliment other teams. The notion that the Jets talk too much is a tired and outdated caricature that should be put to rest permanently. I hope I have set some things straight here. But what about you? What Jets myths would you like to see put to rest? > i saw this on " another fan site " . we need a link next time Kelly. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 we need a link next time Kelly. Thanks He/She is normally really good about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 we need a link next time Kelly. Thanks agreed...sorry 'bout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 agreed...sorry 'bout that. thanks babe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He/She is normally really good about that. A real two-way threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A real two-way threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 A real two-way threat. did you say 2-...https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/35309_1435019569495_1977120_n.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 did you say 2-...https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/35309_1435019569495_1977120_n.jpg I've got to say, your little sister is really cute when she's passed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I've got to say, your little sister is really cute when she's passed out. thanx mostro ! !.. ...oh , just an fyi ; that's me ....peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 options... The Darrelle Revis saga plays on this week with the Daily News reporting that the Jets were "actively shopping" the cornerback during the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. That comes on the heels of another report that no one from the team met with Revis' representatives during the meat market, which is odd since every team seems to meet with every agent at a pre-free agency tampering convention disguised as a chance for scouts to watch players that they've been scouting for months or years run in a straight line. What's more, Rex Ryan has reportedly been left out of the process, leaving new G.M. John Idzik and owner Woody Johnson running the show. Naturally, this has been taken to mean that the Jets are hellbent on trading Revis. Ryan's the only one willing to go on the record and say he wants Revis on the team, but the narrative is that the others are doing an end run to ditch Revis as soon as possible. Maybe so, but these things can take a lot of twists and turns before reaching their final conclusion. That's especially true in cases like this one, where there are five distinct options for how things could wind up for the Jets and Revis. Option 1 - Trade Revis before the draft: In a perfect world, this is the option that works best for the Jets since they would be able to get new faces in April that would help turn the page on the Revis era immediately. This isn't a perfect world, though.Revis hasn't been on a field since tearing his ACL, leaving teams to guess about his health and leaving the Jets to have to consider taking 75 cents on the dollar in a deal because they can't sell Revis' future by solely focusing on the past. Beyond that, this is a draft that's shaping up to be a fairly underpowered one so adding extra picks wouldn't necessarily do much to kickstart the rebuild in green. Option 2 - Trade Revis this summer: This option gives Revis time to get healthy and restore at least some of his trade value, although any return in a deal would not be realized until the 2014 draft. That's not a bad thing if it brings back more value, although it would send an early white flag on the season. Option 3 - Trade Revis during the 2013 season: Similar to the second option, although with the increased benefit of time on the field to sell himself to other suitors as well as the possibility that injury/ineffectiveness somewhere else would lead someone to pay even more than the sticker price to grab Revis for their secondary. Going this option runs the risk that Revis is a disgruntled figure on the team as well as the risk of another injury that could destroy any trade value whatsoever. Option 4 - Re-sign Revis: The Jets aren't showing much interest in this course of action, which makes sense given his injury and their dismal salary cap outlook. Not even paying lip service to the idea of Revis remaining with the team is a bit strange, and it suggests that we were probably heading for this kind of situation even if Revis hadn't gone down in a heap against Miami.If Revis is back to being Revis, this is the best option because you don't win in the NFL by showing great players the door. If this is off the table, though, the Jets might as well make the trade whenever they get an offer that is even close because the final option isn't an option at all. Option 5 - Let Revis walk as a free agent without any compensation: This might not prove to be an option so much as a last resort, but it's where this will head if the Jets aren't able to pull either of the other triggers available to them. If it gets to this point, they'll deserve every bit of mockery they will surely receive. Josh Alper is also a writer for Pro Football Talk. You can follow him on Twitter. > http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/New-York-Jets-Darrelle-Revis-John-Idzik-Rex-Ryan-Woody-Johnson-193565591.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Trying to balance the Jets' books 'Tis the season for number crunching. The Jets, like many teams, have salary-cap concerns. They have roughly $6 million in cap space, which doesn't allow them to be serious players in free agency -- unless they create more room by cutting players and/or restructuring contracts. Here's a position-by-position breakdown of the cap totals, providing insight into how the Jets have invested in recent years -- and where they need to trim some fat. (Note: Totals don't include current free agents such as Dustin Keller, Mike DeVito, LaRon Landry, et al. Allow small margin of error.)OFFENSEQuarterback : $16.48 million. Roughly 14 percent of cap devoted to a position that needs an overhaul. Yeesh.Running back : $1.8 million. If the QB position is Peter Luger's Steakhouse, this is Burger King.Wide receiver : $16.86 million. Not much bang for the buck, based on 2012 performance.Tight end : $960,000. Konrad Reuland and Hayden Smith are the top guys under contract. Hence, the low number. They need Keller.Offensive line : $22.12 million. A pretty high number, considering only two starters are under contract.Offense total : $58.22 million DEFENSEDefensive line : $12.5 million. One of the few areas where the talent lines up with the cost. They're trying to re-sign DeVito.Linebacker : $20.6 million. We're counting $4.5 million in dead money from Bart Scott, Calvin Pace cuts.Secondary : $26.47 million. The total will increase by $3 million if they trade Darrelle Revis, if you can believe that. Landry will be a tough squeeze.Defense total : $59.57 million > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21060/trying-to-balance-the-jets-books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Woody should be dealing with Revis Jets owner needs to focus on signing his star cornerback rather than moving him In the summer of 2010, Woody Johnson gave Darrelle Revis a four-year, $46 million contract meant to be revisited at a later date. Revis left those talks believing the New York Jets were committed to redoing his deal after two years, and the Jets left them believing they were committed to redoing his deal after three. This was the source of their brief spat last July before Revis agreed to report to camp, buckle up his chinstrap and play for a $7.5 million wage. He would ultimately blow out his knee and watch the Jets stagger to a 6-10 record that would cost general manager Mike Tannenbaum the job now held by John Idzik. The Jets have a new boss above Rex Ryan, and three new coordinators below him, but one thing never changed: The promise. In 2012, when they were busy refuting the Revis camp's claim that a renegotiation was supposed to go down after Year 2, a senior Jets official confirmed that the renegotiation was always scheduled for 2013, when the Jets had no intention of having Revis play for $6 million, or less than half his market value. It would have been nice if Woody Johnson & Co. had discovered Darrelle Revis' demands before gauging outside interest. So here we are in 2013, and guess what? The Jets don't want to give their best player a new deal after all. They prefer to trade Revis not because of the knee injury, and not because they suspect he isn't quite the all-time Jet his own coach has made him out to be. They prefer to trade Revis because Woody Johnson doesn't want to do the deal his words and actions said he'd do in 2010. Actually, his football guy, Tannenbaum, is the one who made it public at the time. "This is an intermediate step," the GM said, "to what we hope will be an entire career of Darrelle as a Jet, for him to retire as a Jet and for him to hopefully go to the Hall of Fame as a Jet." Tannenbaum was saying only what Johnson cleared him to say, and again, what a senior team official confirmed last summer. The Jets were calling the four-year deal to end the holdout "an intermediate step." Revis? He was calling it a "Band-Aid," surely a more fitting term for an owner born into the Johnson & Johnson family. Now Woody wants to skip that intermediate step and make the soiled Band-Aid someone else's problem. A league source confirmed reports that the Jets have talked to multiple teams about the possibility of trading Revis, and no matter how you slice it this is bad NFL business. The Jets are negotiating with other teams before they negotiate with Revis himself. Though the Jets haven't peddled the corner around the league, they have listened to some interested parties. It would've been nice if they'd listened to the most interested party of all, Revis, to find out how much money he's actually looking for and how badly he wants to remain a Jet. It's the most amazing part of this story, really, that Revis hopes to finish his career with the Jets as much as Derek Jeter and Eli Manning hope to finish with the Yankees and Giants. Revis, 27, was born 16 years after the Jets' one-and-done appearance in the Super Bowl, and yet he burns to do what Joe Namath did not -- retire a one-uniform lifer. Revis is the league's undisputed heavyweight champ at corner. His work ethic is never in question, and people around the league know Adrian Peterson is hardly the only player to fully recover from a serious knee injury. Revis is on the front end of his prime, he wants to stay, and his head coach wants him to stay, too. And yet the Jets haven't bothered to talk to his agents, Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod. They haven't bothered to see if Revis truly wants Mario Williams money (six years, $100 million), or if he wants Calvin Johnson money (eight years, $132 million), or if he wants a figure north or south or somewhere in between. The Jets haven't bothered to see if Revis is willing to offer a bit of a hometown discount, or a bit of a surgically-repaired knee discount. They haven't bothered to see if he's open to doing a cap-friendly deal, or if he's A-OK with modest guaranteed cash in a longer-term deal. Remember, in the NFL, most of these mega-contracts contain barrels of Monopoly money in them. Unlike the A-Rods and LeBrons of the world, Revis would be guaranteed to see about half of a potential nine-figure deal. But right now, the Jets are acting as if they want Revis on another team's payroll as quickly as possible. They should be focusing on signing him rather than moving him. Ryan knows a Revis trade for draft picks would all but seal his fate this time next year, when a third consecutive non-playoff season will land him in Tannenbaum's shoes. Ryan would much prefer to trade Antonio Cromartie and apply the savings to Revis, according to a league source. If Johnson and Idzik truly want to give their coach the fighting chance they say they want to give him (You see why Woody should've fired Rex along with Tannenbaum?), shouldn't they ship out Cromartie instead of Revis, the superior player and character guy? This is where the team owner has to declare himself. Even as he tries to adhere to a budget his father would've scoffed at, Hal Steinbrenner broke with team policy to pursue a deal with his best player, Robinson Cano, a pending free agent who will want at least $200 million, all guaranteed. Even as he pulled himself from the rubble of the Bernie Madoff mess, Fred Wilpon signed his best player, David Wright, a pending free agent who came off the board at eight years and $138 million, all guaranteed. Jets blog Looking for more on the green and white? ESPNNewYork.com has you covered. Blog » How does Woody Johnson respond when his best player and pending free agent steps to the plate and swings for a guarantee worth less than half of Wright's? By ordering the intentional pass? Three years ago, right after the Jets lost the AFC title game in Indianapolis, Tannenbaum approached Revis' agents near the team bus and told them for the first time he wanted the corner to be a Jet for life, the franchise's answer to Jeter. But that was then and this is now. Revis hurt his knee, and Mike Tannenbaum became John Idzik, who's apparently telling Rex as little as possible about the status of his favorite player. Johnson spent too much money on the wrong guys, Mark Sanchez and Santonio Holmes among them, and now he'd rather not spend it on the right guy, the guy who did the Band-Aid deal to get to this point. Revis should actually be rooting for a trade, hoping and praying for one, to get to a team with a credible shot of winning him a ring. Instead he's cut against the grain of the typical superstar athlete stuck with a losing franchise. He's demanded a non-trade. Johnson should take advantage of that and order Idzik to spend his time and energy on signing Revis now, and trading Cromartie later. And if Idzik finds in the coming weeks that Revis' agents are asking for an unreasonable sum -- unreasonable as it would be defined by any NFL owner driven to win a title and make the on-field product worthy of the fans' investment in PSLs -- then go ahead and trade him. But Woody Johnson had better make a good-faith effort to sign Revis first. Otherwise, he'll need more than a Band-Aid to cover the damage to his brand. > http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8999749/new-york-jets-owner-woody-johnson-deal-darrelle-revis-not-him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 But what if Mark gave up some part of his salary like Gholston. Its won't be a folly on his part to give up some money this year. There are two things here. There is the contract and then their is a career. For Mark a career in the NFL will be more lucrative than what he gets paid in this year by the JETS. And staying with the JETS gives Mark the best chance of having a career in the NFL. If he is released by the JETS at the end of this season his career is pretty much over. If he makes it to some teams training camp he is not their guy and may struggle to get a decent look in. But for the JETS he is their guy and they give him the best opportunity to start in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 baseball is so much easier...no salary caps to worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 4, 2013 Author Share Posted March 4, 2013 Revis and Belichick ? No way Looking at the Jets and the rest of the NFL : 1. Cancel this Foxborough shuttle: Let's end this notion right now. If Darrelle Revis plays out his contract and becomes an unrestricted free agent, there's no way he'll end up in New England. Tom Brady is the big fish in Beantown, and he'll remain the Patriots' highest-paid player for as long as he's around. It would contradict the Patriot Way to pay another player more than Saint Tom, who, in case you missed it, took a hometown discount last week. Combining his three-year extension with his two existing years, Brady reportedly averages $14.5 million per year -- below what Revis is seeking. Bill Belichick might feign interest to drive up the price (and tweak the Jets), but he'll never undercut Brady by paying someone else more -- especially someone who once called him a "jerk." 2. Diminishing return: If the Jets get to the point where they decide to trade Revis (which, in my opinion, is how this will end), they need to remember this: In 2007, they traded their second-round pick to switch places with the Panthers and move up 11 spots in the first round, picking him 14th overall. As an asset, Revis has appreciated over time, so the Jets shouldn't settle for anything less than their original investment -- first- and second-round picks. By the way, Revis was the second DB drafted that year. Can you name the first? Answer below. 3. More Revis thoughts: Trading Revis in the offseason could cost the Jets a quality starter. How's that? Right now, he's counting $9 million on the cap. If he's dealt, his "dead" charge is $12 million. That extra $3 million could mean the difference between re-signing a free agent like Mike DeVito or letting him go. In other words, you lose more than a premier cornerback if you trade Revis.The counter argument: If you wait until the end of the preseason to trade him, the dead charge is $15 million because he will have received $3 million in bonuses by then -- $1 million roster, $1 million workout and $1 million reporting. The Jets would have to leave themselves enough cap flexibility to incur an additional $6 million beyond his current cap figure, and that won't be easy. Let's face it, it's a mess. 4. Draft nuggets: The Jets have met with the top 10 quarterback prospects, according to senior personnel exec Terry Bradway. In an interview with the team website, he said the strength of the QB class will be in the second and third round, although he suspects a couple will wind up as first-rounders. Reading between the lines, this tells me the Jets don't have any quarterbacks with a first-round grade. Other insights from Bradway: The best values at safety and running back are Rounds 2 to 4. There are 12 to 14 wide receivers who can make significant contributions as rookies. Oregon pass rusher Dion Jordan (shoulder surgery), a player linked to the Jets at No. 9, might not be ready until early training camp. 5. Crystal ball: Prediction on the early theme of free agency for the Jets -- exodus. I can easily see them losing mainstays such as DeVito, Dustin Keller, Brandon Moore and Shonn Greene, along with LaRon Landry. Even with the bump in the cap, they're still only about $8 million under. It'll take about $8 million for the draft and restricted-free agent tenders, so they're really operating with no room for spending. They have to make cuts (Tim Tebow) and restructure contracts (Santonio Holmes) to create room. 6. Austin Power: The Jets are trying to decide whether to give RT Austin Howard the first-round tender ($2.86 million) or second-round tender ($2.02 million) as a restricted free agent. Something they should consider: The Ravens, Howard's first team, own the last pick in the second round and could be looking for a left tackle to replace free-agent LT Bryant McKinnie. Howard, almost 26, would be better than any draft pick at that spot, so it wouldn't be a shock if the Ravens explore an offer sheet. 7. Out like Flynn: A lot of folks are saying the Jets should trade for Seahawks backup QB Matt Flynn, but he'd hardly be a sure thing. Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, formerly Flynn's coordinator in Green Bay, passed on him last offseason. Chiefs GM John Dorsey, formerly a Packers exec, also passed, as the Chiefs opted to trade for Alex Smith. It tells you something about a player when the people who know him best don't want him. 8. No ordinary Joe: Ravens QB Joe Flacco landed a six-year, $120.6 million contract, the 13th $100 million deal in NFL history. Of the eight contracts no longer active, the biggest actual payout was Brett Favre, who got $54.6 million of a $100 million deal, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Moral of the story: There's a lot of funny money in the NFL. 9. No ordinary Joe, Part II: Three weeks ago, I had lunch with Flacco's agent, Joe Linta, for a story on another client, Stony Brook RB Miguel Maysonet. Linta, describing his penchant for signing small-school players (Flacco came from Delaware), admitted it's a risky way to do business. "It's living on the edge, but I like taking the road less traveled," he said. After his Flacco commission, Linta will be driving that road in style. 10. A poor Reid-option: Alex Smith fits Andy Reid's West Coast offense because of his short accuracy, but let's be real here: The Chiefs gave up too much in the trade, sending the 49ers a second-round pick (No. 34) this year and a conditional pick in 2014. Smith isn't that good, but it's a weak quarterback class. Plus, the Chiefs have a poor track record for drafting passers. The last 10 quarterbacks drafted by the Chiefs never won a game for the franchise, per ESPN Stats. Where have you gone, Len Dawson ? Answer to the trivia question: LaRon Landry, drafted sixth overall by the Redskins. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21095/sunday-notes-revis-and-belichick-no-way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Revis and Belichick ? No way Looking at the Jets and the rest of the NFL : 1. Cancel this Foxborough shuttle: Bill Belichick might feign interest to drive up the price (and tweak the Jets), If BB feign's interest, his driving the price up will have absolutely no impact whatsoever on the Jets. At that point Revis would be a free agent deciding where to play among the other 31 teams in the league. 2. Diminishing return: If the Jets get to the point where they decide to trade Revis (which, in my opinion, is how this will end), they need to remember this: In 2007, they traded their second-round pick to switch places with the Panthers and move up 11 spots in the first round, picking him 14th overall. As an asset, Revis has appreciated over time, so the Jets shouldn't settle for anything less than their original investment -- first- and second-round picks. They actually traded a 1st, a 2nd, and a 5th to move up from #25 to #14. 3. More Revis thoughts: Trading Revis in the offseason could cost the Jets a quality starter. How's that? Right now, he's counting $9 million on the cap. If he's dealt, his "dead" charge is $12 million. That extra $3 million could mean the difference between re-signing a free agent like Mike DeVito or letting him go. The idea would be to trade him for more than one draft pick, or possibly a pick and player(s) type situation. Lets say we can land 2 second round picks (the floor of his trade value, IMO) then we are replacing ONE starter (Revis) with TWO potential starters. It's not like we're trading him for no return. 4. Draft nuggets: The Jets have met with the top 10 quarterback prospects, according to senior personnel exec Terry Bradway. In an interview with the team website, he said the strength of the QB class will be in the second and third round, although he suspects a couple will wind up as first-rounders. Reading between the lines, this tells me the Jets don't have any quarterbacks with a first-round grade. Hopefully they continue reading between those lines, and make the connection that if you don't have a first-round grade on a QB, then that player is unlikely to make significant contributions to a team without significant development. If we're going to roll the dice on a player, do so in the 5th round and beyond. Rounds 2-4 can unearth some gems, and at the very least provide quality depth. 5. Crystal ball: Prediction on the early theme of free agency for the Jets -- exodus. I can easily see them losing mainstays such as DeVito, Dustin Keller, Brandon Moore and Shonn Greene, along with LaRon Landry. Spoiler alert: I predict we'll keep at least one of the above...and why no mention of Slauson? 6. Austin Power: The Jets are trying to decide whether to give RT Austin Howard the first-round tender ($2.86 million) or second-round tender ($2.02 million) as a restricted free agent. Something they should consider: The Ravens, Howard's first team, own the last pick in the second round and could be looking for a left tackle to replace free-agent LT Bryant McKinnie. Howard, almost 26, would be better than any draft pick at that spot, so it wouldn't be a shock if the Ravens explore an offer sheet. They could tag him with the ROFR tag (right of first refusal tag) for under $1.5M. This lets him gauge his value, and allows us to save some bucks if he doesn't get any nibbles. 7. Out like Flynn: A lot of folks are saying the Jets should trade for Seahawks backup QB Matt Flynn, but he'd hardly be a sure thing. Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, formerly Flynn's coordinator in Green Bay, passed on him last offseason. Chiefs GM John Dorsey, formerly a Packers exec, also passed, as the Chiefs opted to trade for Alex Smith. It tells you something about a player when the people who know him best don't want him. Let's face it, Alex Smith has actually experience in the league. Before his injury Smith was setting all-time records for completion pct...and I thought Flynn was brought in to Miami, and lost in the Manning shuffle. It's not like he was completely dissed. 8. No ordinary Joe: Ravens QB Joe Flacco landed a six-year, $120.6 million contract, the 13th $100 million deal in NFL history. Of the eight contracts no longer active, the biggest actual payout was Brett Favre, who got $54.6 million of a $100 million deal, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Moral of the story: There's a lot of funny money in the NFL. I wish we could pay Revis some funny money. Good job Kelly, keep em coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 Source : Howard receives 2nd-round tender Right tackle Austin Howard, a restricted free agent, received a second-round tender from the Jets, according to a league source. The tender is worth $2.02 million for one year. If the Jets decline to match an offer sheet -- they have the right of first refusal -- they'd receive a second-round draft pick as compensation. The Jets' other options were a first-round tender ($2.8 million) or the low tender ($1.32 million), the latter of which includes no draft-pick compensation. If they had opted for the low tender, the Jets would've invited a feeding frenzy. Howard, a virtual unknown a year ago, won the right-tackle job in training camp and started every game, replacing the unpopular Wayne Hunter. The Jets signed Howard off the Ravens' practice squad in 2011. Interestingly, the Ravens could be in the market for a tackle and they hold the final pick in the second round. Howard was originally an undrafted free agent out of Northern Iowa. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21325/source-howard-receives-2nd-round-tender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 A hilariously ironic scene unfolded Monday at an NFL-organized event at Rockefeller Center. The noisy and brash Jets were quiet. The understated and old-school Giants were loud. Woody Johnson, owner of the big-top Jets, absolutely refused to answer any questions about the future of Darrelle Revis.Reporters badgered him, but he refused to give up anything during theinterrogation. You half-wondered if people were watching on the other side of a two-way mirror. Nearby, Giants co-owner John Mara talked and talked about Victor Cruz, a restricted free agent. It was a clear case of public negotiating, Mara saying how much they'd love to have him but claiming there's a limit to how much they're willing to pay. A role reversal for our two local teams. Why have the Jets opted for the silent approach ? Some might say it's an attempt to "smoke out" Revis' hard-line agents, but I think it has more to do with the Jets having no interest in talking to Revis about a contract extension. I wrote this a few weeks ago, and I'll write it again: There's no chance that Johnson will sign Revis to a new deal. None. They will trade their best player, and it's only a matter of when. It would be bad business for the Jets to trade Revis without so much as a contract discussion with the agents. Is that any way to run a franchise? As of Monday night, the Jets hadn't reached out to the agents, according to league sources. In theory, they'll have to give them permission to negotiate a contract with the team that steps up and agrees to trade for him, meeting the Jets' compensation demands. Pro Football Talk reported Monday night that the Jets have a "good" offer on the table for Revis. It's hard to imagine a team coming to the table this quickly, considering Revis is only five months removed from ACL surgery. Be careful, there's a lot of smoke this time of year. But if the Jets do have a good offer, they should wait because they should be able to do better as Revis gets healthier. Maybe a bidding war emerges before the draft. Revis has a de facto no-trade clause because any team willing to trade for him likely will want to negotiate a long-term contract, and the Revis camp will drive a hard bargain. Without a long-term deal, Revis could be a one-year rental, and it's hard to imagine a team surrendering a lucrative compensation package to the Jets without having a commitment from Revis beyond 2013. If the Jets let him go without receiving at least a first-round pick, there should be an investigation. The Bucs make a lot of sense as a possible destination. They need a cornerback, they have more than $30 million in cap room and they've negotiated big deals with Revis' agents in the past -- i.e. Vincent Jackson. Coach Greg Schiano, the former Rutgers coach, is familiar with Revis from his Big East days. On Monday, Johnson said he'd field Revis-related questions next week at the league meetings. Who knows ? By then, Revis could be gone. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21343/in-a-twist-the-jets-behave-like-giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Cro reworks deal, not going anywhere For those clinging to the hope the Jets would trade CB Antonio Cromartie and use the money to re-sign Darrelle Revis ... well, you can forget about that. Cromartie is untradable now because he restructured his contract, according to NFLPA records posted Tuesday night. He was a prime candidate because of a $2.3 million roster bonus due Wednesday. It appears he didn't lose any money in the restructuring. He was due to make a $7 million base salary plus the roster bonus, a total of $9.3 million. His base pay dropped to $840,000, the roster bonus was eliminated and he will receive the difference in the form of an $8.5 million signing bonus that will be pro-rated over the next two years. It drops his cap charge to $6.25 million, a savings of about $4.2 million. There's a down side to this credit-card approach; it inflates Cromartie's 2014 cap number to $15 million, including a $5 million roster bonus. It'll force the two sides to the bargaining table because there's little chance of them doling out that kind of bonus in the final year of a contract. Holmes apparently took a straight pay cut, although it's possible he can recoup some money with incentives. His base salary was reduced from $11 million to $7.5 million, the amount that was guaranteed in the original contract. Basically, his non-guaranteed salary ($3.5 million) was slashed. By adjusting the Holmes and Cromartie contracts, the Jets created about $7.7 million in cap space. This puts them about $16 million under the cap. C Nick Mangold is due a $3 million roster bonus Wednesday, but his contract remains untouched. Revis is due a $1 million roster bonus on Saturday. In case you're wondering, David Garrard's contract is one year for a total of $1.1 million. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21419/cro-re-works-deal-not-going-anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Day 1 recap : Defense takes a couple of hits A few takeaways on Day 1 of free agency: 1. SLIM PICKINGS: To use an old Bill Parcells expression, the Jets' defense resembles a turkey carcass the day after Thanksgiving. There's not much left. (I'm pretty sure Parcells used the turkey analogy to describe a draft board after the first few rounds.) They lost DT Mike DeVito to the Chiefs (three years, $12.6 million) and they released NT Sione Po'uha($3.8 million cap savings). There goes their two best interior linemen. Rex Ryan must be moping around the office because his defense is in the process of being gutted.Sione Po'uha spent eight years with the Jets. Get this : They have only five defensive players under contract that started last year -- three corners (Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie and Kyle Wilson), one linebacker (David Harris) and one lineman (Muhammad Wilkerson).And Revis could be on his way out. This is a major rebuilding project for Ryan and new coordinator Dennis Thurman, who will be leaning heavily on young players such as Quinton Coples, Kenrick Ellis, Demario Davis and Ricky Sapp to step into prominent roles.2. A HOLMES HAIRCUT: As expected, the Jets and Santonio Holmes agreed on a restructured contract that will keep him with the team in 2013. The new deal hasn't been submitted yet, but you can bet his base salary will be lower than the original $11 million. Chances are, they saved about $2 million to $3 million by getting Holmes to re-work his deal. They could've released him if he refused, but that would've been a tough one to swallow. They owe him $7.5 million guaranteed and the cap hit would've been $11.25 million.3. TWO GOOD MEN -- GONE: The locker room lost two veteran leaders in Po'uha and DeVito, close friends who mentored the young linemen. Po'uha and DeVito are blue-collar types whose professionalism permeated the defensive-line room. I remember the 2011 lockout, when they organized informal workouts for the D-line at a local high school. The Jets don't have enough guys like that in the locker room; their intangibles will be missed. How's this for irony? They said goodbye to a couple of class acts on the same day in which they a found a way to retain Holmes, a problem child who poisoned the team chemistry in 2011.4. RETURN ENGAGEMENT?: Some people have asked whether the Jets might re-sign Po'uha. I don't see that happening. His back issue from last season is still causing problems, and his No. 1 priority should be getting healthy so he can enjoy a rich life after football.5. BARGAIN HUNTING: As expected, the Jets didn't fly out of the free-agent gate, throwing around wads of money. Far from it. They set up visits with at least two players, neither of whom is a household name -- Rams WR Brandon Gibson and Raiders RB Mike Goodson. If they don't sign Gibson, they could turn to Browns WR Mohamed Massaquoi.This demonstrates the team's approach to free agency. They're lookingfor young, relatively inexpensive players with some upside, sleeper types that showed glimpses in backup roles. The Jets could chase some name vets down the road, when their asking prices drop. This is a buyer's market, and GM John Idzik will be patient.6. FISH FRENZY: The Dolphins won the day, landing WR Mike Wallace and LB Dannell Ellerbe. They signed a $13 million-a-year receiver and here are the Jets, possibly getting ready to send Revis away in a trade. Should the Jets beworried ? Yes and no. In their three most recent games against the Steelers, they used Cromartie on Wallace -- speed vs. speed. Wallace's three-game totals were ordinary: 13 catches, 182 yards and one TD. Here's the problem : The Dolphins retained WR Brian Hartline, whom Cromartie usually covers -- length vs. length. If Revis is gone, Cromartie won't be able to cover them both, obviously. One interesting note on Wallace: He's had only two 100-yard performances in his last 24 games.7. LOOKING AT DAY 2: S LaRon Landry could be the next to fall, as he's scheduled to visit the Colts, Cards, Lions and 49ers. He could sign a deal anywhere along his tour. The Jets are out of it. It was a quiet first day for RG Brandon Moore and TE Dustin Keller, but they could start to attract more interest. Ditto, RB Shonn Greene. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21405/day-1-recap-defense-takes-a-couple-of-hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Get ready to lose Keller, Greene, too The Rex-odus will continue. Tight end Dustin Keller and running back Shonn Greene, mainstays on the Jets' offense, are scheduled to visit Wednesday with the Dolphins and Titans, respectively, sources confirmed. The Jets expect to lose both players, sources said. On Tuesday, they tried to re-sign DT Mike DeVito, but he signed a three-year, $12.6 million contract with the Jets. They also cut popular NT Sione Po'uha, who still is battling a back injury. The Jets also expect to lose Pro Bowl safety LaRon Landry, who has set up visits with several teams. Oh, and did we mention they're trying to trade star CB Darrelle Revis ? The Dolphins are interested in Keller after losing out on former Titans TE Jared Cook, who signed with the Rams. It's interesting that the Rams, with former Jets offensive coordinatorator Brian Schottenheimer running the O, preferred Cook over Keller. The Titans see Greene as a possible between-the-tackles complement to Chris Johnson. Meanwhile, the Jets are set to host WR Brandon Gibson on Wednesday for a free-agent visit. He was a full-time player for the Rams last season, catching 51 passes for 691 yards and five touchdowns. He played in 73 percent of the Rams' offensive snaps, according to ProFootballFocus.com. Suddenly, Gibson is one of the "hot" second-tier free agents. The Dolphins are also showing interest, but they won't pay much after spending a combined $18 million a year for Mike Wallace and Brian Hartline. > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21426/get-ready-to-lose-keller-greene-too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 As the league year officially turned and John Idzik entered his first free agency period as Jets general manager, he was expected to take a cautious approach. Idzik wasn’t expected to pursue this year’s darlings — wide receiver Mike Wallace, outside linebacker Paul Kruger or defensive end Cliff Avril. Instead, he has to do more house cleaning and continue searching for affordable parts. To that end, Tuesday started with the release of former captain Sione Po’uha, according to a person with knowledge of the situation who requested anonymity because the team had not made the move official. The move saves the Jets roughly $3.8 million against the salary cap. Then, the Jets decided not to release Santonio Holmes. The troubled wideout will be on the roster next year, a person with knowledge of Holmes’ situation said. That person requested anonymity because a formal announcement had not been made. Most significantly, though, was what Idzik did not do. In the face of another report, this time from ProFootballTalk.com suggesting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have made an offer for Pro Bowl cornerback Darrelle Revis, Idzik held firm. Some thinking surrounding the deal suggests that if Idzik continues to pass on opportunities now, team cap space will dry up and those who were interested in obtaining a corner will no longer have cap space to sign Revis to a suitable extension. Although dealing him appears the likeliest conclusion, Idzik seems ready to wait. According to ESPN, Holmes reworked his balky deal, which originally counted more than $11 million against the salary cap. Though no numbers are official, the move is expected to bring significant savings. According to league records, Holmes also reworked his balky deal, which originally counted more than $11 million against the salary cap in 2013. His base salary will now be $7.5 million, and save the team roughly $3.5 million in relief this year. Antonio Cromartie similarly restructured his deal, going from a $7 million base in 2013 to $840,000, league records show. That move will save about $4 million against the cap. Idzik also opted not to re-sign Mike DeVito, who left for the Chiefs on a three-year, $12.6 million deal, according to a person with knowledge of the situation who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak for the team. The amount of the deal was thought to be too much for the Jets to pay. So it goes for the Jets, typically known for big-time signings and trades that often define the madness that now accompanies every NFL offseason. Last year in late March, they acquired Tim Tebow in a deal that changed the course of the franchise. The summer before, they snagged Plaxico Burress. At midnight, during coach Rex Ryan’s first free agency as Jets coach, the team showed up at Bart Scott’s doorstep to court him away from Baltimore. This time, the names are a little less worthy of the marquee. Former Rams wide receiver Brandon Gibson will visit with the team today in Florham Park, according to one person with knowledge of the situation, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak for the team. League records show Gibson had a base salary of $1 million last year to go along with 51 receptions and five touchdowns. The Jets are also pursuing Oakland running back Mike Goodson, according to a person briefed on the team’s plans, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak for the team. He had a base salary of $615,000 last year. In a backup role, he netted 221 yards on the ground and 195 yards receiving. Matt Slauson, the Jets’ starting left guard the past three seasons, also received a personal phone call from Ryan and new offensive line coach Mike Devlin. All of the above signify a more measured, financially conservative approach. For better or worse, it seems this attitude will bleed over into the Revis negotiations, too, even though he is not a free agent. What is known for sure is that the league year has turned and Idzik is in the spotlight. For now, it doesn’t seem to be affecting him much. > http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/03/as_jets_enter_free_agency_quie.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Thoughts on Darrelle Revis, first-round pick The up-and-down saga involving New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis took another interesting turn this week. Yahoo! Sports is reporting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers want to do a Revis trade but are unwilling to give up a first-round pick in 2013. Here are some thoughts on this latest Revis development : If I’m the Jets, I hold out with this trade. Something is wrong if New York cannot get a first-round pick for Revis. Wide receiver Percy Harvin was just traded from the Minnesota Vikings to the Seattle Seahawks for a first- and seventh-rounder this year and a future mid-round pick in 2014. Revis, the best cornerback in the NFL, should be able to garner at least that much. Interestingly, the report states Tampa Bay may be willing to give up a first-rounder in 2014. This sounds like the Buccaneers want to boost their stock now without giving up anything for this year. The Jets also need immediate help to continue their rebuild, and Revis is their only significant bargaining chip. New York should make it a point to get all, or most, of its compensation to assist the team this year. It's not looking good for Jets head coach Rex Ryan. The Jets clearly have one foot out the door with Revis, who is the team's only elite player. New York also has done little in free agency to improve. The Jets lost Pro Bowl safety LaRon Landry, tailback Shonn Greene and defensive lineman Mike DeVito in free agency. Starting tight end Dustin Keller also is expected to leave. The only player the Jets signed is tailback Lex Hilliard. > http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/56235/thoughts-on-darrelle-revis-first-round-pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Putting our spin on the news of the day :1. A THREE-PEAT: Another tough day for the Idziks. Three free agents decided to take their talents elsewhere -- RB Shonn Greene (Titans), S Yeremiah Bell (Cards) and S LaRon Landry (Colts). On Tuesday, it was DT Mike DeVito (Chiefs). Jets Nation could be on the verge of panic, but I ask: Is anybody surprised? You shouldn't be. Everybody knew the story of early free agency would be "The Rex-odus." They had a shot with only one of the four defectors -- DeVito. It looks bad from a public-relations standpoint, but this is what bad teams do. They rebuild.2. GOING ... GOING ... : The next to go could be TE Dustin Keller. He arrived in South Florida Wednesday to meet with the Dolphins, who gave him a physical and took him out to dinner. He stayed the night. That could be a match. Frankly, I don't understand why the Jets aren't making a push to re-sign Keller. He'd be ideal in Marty Mornhinweg's West Coast offense. The market for RG Brandon Moore is expected to heat up next week.3. HELP ON THE WAY: Well, kind of. The Jets will meet with at least three free agents on Thursday -- WR Brandon Gibson (Rams), who completes his overnight visit; RB Mike Goodson (Raiders); and OLB Antwan Barnes (Chargers). Barnes has been a situational pass rusher throughout his career, compiling 23.5 sacks in seven seasons -- 11 in 2011. We're not talking about household names here, unless it's John Idzik's household. But they're the kind of guys on the Jets' shopping list -- under 30, relatively inexpensive, some upside. 4. CELEBRATION: Honestly, the best thing that happened to the Jets on Day 2 was Wes Welker's stunning decision to leave the Patriots, signing a two-year, $12 million contract with the Broncos. Welker has been a nightmare for the Jets over the years. Former GM Mike Tannenbaum, a guest analyst on NFL Network, said on the air that Welker was always the No. 1 headache whenever they faced the Patriots. The Welker defection reminded me of a Bill Parcells line from 1999. When the Colts traded Marshall Faulk out of the division to the Rams (in those days, the Colts were in the AFC East), Parcells said he and his Jets assistant were so happy they formed a conga line in the office. I don't know if Rex Ryan and Dennis Thurman celebrated by dancing, but I bet they were pretty pumped. The Patriots replaced Welker with former Ram Danny Amendola, a downgrade in my opinion.5. WIPE OUT: If the Jets lose Keller (when?), their entire 2008 draft will be wiped out. Call it The Curse of Vernon Gholston. They traded up to pick Keller at the bottom of the first round, costing them two picks. They did the same thing with Greene in 2009, trading three picks to select him in the third round. All told, the Jets surrendered a 2, a 3, two 4s and a 7 to draft two players that never made it to a second contract. That hurts.6. WHAT GOES AROUND: Interesting footnote on Greene landing in Tennessee, who also signed former Lions LB Sammie Lee Hill. When the Jets traded up for Greene, they sent a fourth-round pick to the Lions, who used it to pick -- you guessed it -- Hill.7. QUARTERBACK OPTION: I mentioned this about a week ago, but it bears repeating: If Kevin Kolb gets cut by the Cards, which is likely, the Jets will give strong consideration to bring him on board, according to a source. The connection is coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, who coached him with the Eagles. For the bargain-hunting Jets, it'll all come down to money.8. SO LONG, SIONE: The Jets made it official, releasing NT Sione Po'uha. The team issued this quote from Ryan: "Sione has been a leader on this team and a great example of a true pro. It's been my honor to coach him. I wish him and his family the very best." > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/21459/day-2-recap-three-more-out-the-door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Potential snag in Revis-to-Bucs The likelihood that Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis will soon land in a new locale has picked up steam. Tampa Bay Buccaneers management, all the way up to the Glazer family that owns the team, is fully on board with trading for Revis, multiple sources told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday. That includes paying Revis what is considered an acceptable salary. The holdup, for now, is what the Jets are willing to accept in a trade. The Buccaneers don't want to relinquish their first-round pick in next month's NFL draft. Tampa Bay holds the No. 13 overall pick. ... The same Bucs source indicated Tampa Bay might be more willing to surrender its 2014 first-rounder, gambling that next year's selection won't be as high if the team improves. > http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/372811-potential-snag-in-revis-to-bucs?sct=uk_t2_a13&eref=fromSI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 As of now, the Bucs are the only strong suitor for Darrelle Revis, league sources said Thursday, setting up a high-stakes game of poker between them and the Jets.Senior officials from both teams will be under the same roof at theNFL meetings, starting Sunday in Phoenix. You'd have to think there will be conversations between the two sides as the Revis trade drama (will they or won't they ?) stretches to two months. Both teams have risk; so does Revis. Let's examine :The Jets : They're taking a deliberate approach, trying to give the impression they're under no pressure to do anything. Technically, they don't because Revis is under contract for another year, but no one really expects it to get that far. The Jets are rebuilding and they want draft picks, so they're willing to listen to offers. They're waiting for an offer they can't refuse -- i.e. the Bucs' first-round pick (13th overall) -- but the Bucs are refusing to part with it, sources said.If the Jets overplay their hand, they run the risk of alienating the team that wants him the most. They could wait until the summer, when Revis' surgically repaired knee is healthy. In theory, that would make him more marketable, but what kind of market would there be? If they wait until the Week 8 trading deadline, it stands to reason the most interested teams would be contenders, meaning their 2014 first-round picks would be toward the bottom of the round.The Bucs : First of all, it's risky to trade for a player only five months removed from major surgery, but the Bucs are on board, sources said -- on board at their price, that is. But they want a game changer at cornerback. The Bucs have a terrific safety tandem withMark Barron and Dashon Goldson,whom they signed for $41 million, but great safeties don't mean much with mediocre corners -- especially in a division with lethal quarterback-receiver combos in Atlanta and New Orleans. There are some decent cornerback options on the free-agent market, but no one of Revis' caliber. They could draft a cornerback at No. 13, but then you're talking about a learning curve. The Bucs can extend the poker game until the draft, seeing who blinks first. Of course, if they wait, there's always the chance another bidder will get involved.Revis : The early cornerback market has to be sobering for the Revis camp. The contracts are coming in lower than expected. Sean Smith, one of the top free-agent corners, signed with the Chiefs for only $6 million a year. Obviously, a healthy Revis is an elite player, but it will be hard in this climate to land a deal worth $16 million a year. Of course, it only takes one -- and the Revis camp evidently feels it has that one in the Bucs, who have plenty of cap room and a willingness to spend.In an ideal world, Revis would rather make his next big score with the Jets, but that probably won't happen. He's looking for greener pastures, and the greenest is located in Tampa. It could be Tampa or bust for Revis, so you can bet there's an increased sense of urgency to make it happen. They're pushing for a Jets-Bucs meeting in Phoenix -- a showdown in the desert to dicuss the future of a player with his own "island." > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Owners meetings perfect time to shop Revis New York Jets owner Woody Johnson continues to push his somewhat confusing company line on star cornerback Darrelle Revis."If somebody wants to make an offer, for any of our players, we'd always listen. [but] we’re not actively beating the bushes," Johnson said Sunday at the NFL owners meetings. What Johnson is really saying is he'd love to trade Revis for the right price. However, the Jets don't want to give the public impression that they’re actively shopping their best player.This rhetoric from the Jets is getting old. They continue to try to play both sides of the fence with Revis. New York wants to generate enough trade interest in Revis to get good offers while not upsetting its best player.But if the Jets want to trade Revis, the NFL owners meetings are the perfect time to shop the star cornerback. Every team is in Arizona this week. It’s one-stop shopping to discuss business face to face. There are reports that the Jets have already been in trade talks with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and San Francisco 49ers. Those talks could continue this week and may even intensify.New York will probably lose Revis to free agency next year because the team simply cannot afford him. It makes perfect sense to get something for Revis now, especially since the Jets are not contenders and are rebuilding under new general manager John Idzik. This week the Jets would be wise to stop focusing on spin with Revis and work diligently on finding the best trade to help the franchise move forward. > http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/56413/owners-meetings-perfect-time-to-shop-revis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 ~ ~ Tweet of the Week III "Idzik : 'I expect Darrelle Revis to be a Jet.' Translation: 'No one's giving us the picks we want or giving him the money he wants.' '' -- @adbrandt, ESPN NFL business analyst Andrew Brandt. > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130318/jake-long-nfc-west-nfl-free-agency-peter-king-monday-morning-quarterback/?sct=uk_t11_a3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JADEDGREEN Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 2. A HOLMES HAIRCUT: As expected, the Jets and Santonio Holmes agreed on a restructured contract that will keep him with the team in 2013. The new deal hasn't been submitted yet, but you can bet his base salary will be lower than the original $11 million. Chances are, they saved about $2 million to $3 million by getting Holmes to re-work his deal. They could've released him if he refused, but that would've been a tough one to swallow. They owe him $7.5 million guaranteed and the cap hit would've been $11.25 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 This week the Jets would be wise to stop focusing on spin with Revis and work diligently on finding the best trade to help the franchise move forward. > http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/56413/owners-meetings-perfect-time-to-shop-revis Cmon Kelly, what are the jets supposed to say? "would like to chat but we have work to do trying to trade our best player. I have already wasted 30 seconds by giving you that quote. gotta go" They are going to say what all GMs/Owners say. So and so is a member of the team. Always been that way and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Cmon Kelly, what are the jets supposed to say? "would like to chat but we have work to do trying to trade our best player. I have already wasted 30 seconds by giving you that quote. gotta go" They are going to say what all GMs/Owners say. So and so is a member of the team. Always been that way and always will be. ~ ~ here ya go...http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/mailbag/_/id/21416/21416 ....he wrote the article, not me. cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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