T0mShane Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Alex Smith is purgatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 So you're saying he's not better than McElroy? Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Alex Smith is purgatory. Meh. Chiefs have talent though. If we made this deal with our roster I'd be pissed. In that crappy division they could squeeze out a WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 What's Ron Powlus doing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Meh. Chiefs have talent though. If we made this deal with our roster I'd be pissed. In that crappy division they could squeeze out a WC. Bowe is as good as gone. They have less legit receivers than the Jets do. That's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 What's Ron Powlus doing these days? Winning two heisman trophies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Meh. Chiefs have talent though. If we made this deal with our roster I'd be pissed. In that crappy division they could squeeze out a WC. I'd rather vacate the position entirely than stick an 8-8 game manager at quarterback for three wasted years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Bowe is as good as gone. They have less legit receivers than the Jets do. That's saying something. Bowe will be franchised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Alex Smith is purgatory. maybe. but geno smith at 1 is hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 maybe. but geno smith at 1 is hell. Because of the one Syracuse game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Alex Smith is purgatory. I remember when Obama was elected in 2008 and I was sitting in a bar. Lauren the bartender put the phone on speaker and it was a bunch of her relatives in Ireland singing and celebrating our new emperor's rise to power. You could sense in many a feeling of hope and change that day. I just Googled the first Chief's message board I can find and it's the opposite of that, more like Joseph Goebbels somehow snuck into office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 if he's traded it means they worked out a long term deal with the other team. the niners wouldn't give up all those picks for a rental. No, but they might give up their late 2nd this year, and conditional picks of their 1st (late round) and KC's 2nd in next year's draft if they get him signed. Which they probably will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 the real fall out here is that the Niners are one of the few teams with the picks necessary to actually make a run at Revis. Just add Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder to the mix for a battle royale pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Just add Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder to the mix for a battle royale pissing contest. \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I wonder how this is going to affect the first 8 pcks in this draft? Sure hope Geno isn't there when the Jets pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I wonder how this is going to effect the first 8 pcks in this draft? Sure hope Geno isn't there when the Jets pick i cant see him getting passed buffalo but id be pretty happy if jets took him at 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 i cant see him getting passed buffalo but id be pretty happy if jets took him at 9 No. No. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Smith must be happy replaced by a rookie that makes it to the SB then traded to the team in last place. If he catches his wife cheating on him his life will be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 i cant see him getting passed buffalo but id be pretty happy if jets took him at 9 God no. If he's at 9 trade to whoever wants him for almost anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Because of the one Syracuse game? he had a multi-game bad stretch. No one has him graded highly enough to be a real option at 1. except maybe Gil Brandt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Smith must be happy replaced by a rookie that makes it to the SB then traded to the team in last place. If he catches his wife cheating on him his life will be complete. Only if it's with his gay brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I just Googled the first Chief's message board I can find and it's the opposite of that, more like Joseph Goebbels somehow snuck into office. the last month or so I've been arguing with KC fans about who should go 1. these fans are delusional. they hope blindly. They say things like "Geno is better than Mcnabb coming out" and "If they take Geno and he fails, so what at least they tried." It sucks for them that they got this high pick in such a crap QB year but it is what it is. Alex Smith and Joeckel isn't gonna get you fired. Geno Smith will get you fired. Especially if you throw him to the wolves. He needs to sit multiple years like Aaron Rodgers and learn but 1 overall means he's starting week 1 and getting obliterated. it's funny because a Jets fan can tell you how bad it hurts to draft a QB high and have him not pan out. Their response to that is basically " Sanchez pick was awesome, we haven't won a playoff game since the 1990's. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Alex Smith headed to Chiefs following deal with 49ers, report says By Conor Orr/The Star-Ledger on February 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, updated February 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM It was hard to imagine the money working in a deal between the Jets and 49ers for Alex Smith, but he was one of the best quarterbacks being shopped or in free agency this offseason. We say was because Smith is headed to the Chiefs, according to a report from Fox's Jay Glazer. The 49ers gave up a second rounder this year and a similar pick in 2014. Glazer says they've made a clear commitment to Smith. After the Bills signed Tarvaris Jackson and the Eagles signed Michael Vick, we talked about the changing quarterback landscape and how that will effect the Jets. They will undoubtedly bring in competition for Mark Sanchez, though it's unclear if they mean through the draft or free agency. John Idzik mentioned both as possibilities and the team met with Mike Glennon (NC State), Ryan Nassib (Syracuse) and Matt Barkley (USC) among others in Indianapolis at the Scouting Combine. In the meantime, here's what the list of available pros looks like. Names like Matt Moore and Jason Campbell definitely stand out. Also, don't count out Sanchez just yet. Marty Mornhinweg's system is QB friendly and could pick him out of his slump. Alex Smith Matt Moore Tarvaris Jackson Jason Campbell David Garrard Josh Johnson Byron Leftwich Brady Quinn Vince Young Matt Leinart Rex Grossman David Carr Derek Anderson Drew Stanton Chase Daniel Brian Hoyer Charlie Batch Bruce Gradkowski Kellen Clemens Tyler Thigpen Josh McCown Sage Rosenfels Seneca Wallace Donovan McNabb A.J. Feeley Troy Smith Luke McCown Chris Redman John Beck Jordan Palmer J.P. Losman Kevin O'Connell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Alex Smith headed to Chiefs following deal with 49ers, report says By Conor Orr/The Star-Ledger on February 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, updated February 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM It was hard to imagine the money working in a deal between the Jets and 49ers for Alex Smith, but he was one of the best quarterbacks being shopped or in free agency this offseason. We say was because Smith is headed to the Chiefs, according to a report from Fox's Jay Glazer. The 49ers gave up a second rounder this year and a similar pick in 2014. Glazer says they've made a clear commitment to Smith. After the Bills signed Tarvaris Jackson and the Eagles signed Michael Vick, we talked about the changing quarterback landscape and how that will effect the Jets. They will undoubtedly bring in competition for Mark Sanchez, though it's unclear if they mean through the draft or free agency. John Idzik mentioned both as possibilities and the team met with Mike Glennon (NC State), Ryan Nassib (Syracuse) and Matt Barkley (USC) among others in Indianapolis at the Scouting Combine. In the meantime, here's what the list of available pros looks like. Names like Matt Moore and Jason Campbell definitely stand out. Also, don't count out Sanchez just yet. Marty Mornhinweg's system is QB friendly and could pick him out of his slump. Alex Smith Matt Moore Tarvaris Jackson Jason Campbell David Garrard Josh Johnson Byron Leftwich Brady Quinn Vince Young Matt Leinart Rex Grossman David Carr Derek Anderson Drew Stanton Chase Daniel Brian Hoyer Charlie Batch Bruce Gradkowski Kellen Clemens Tyler Thigpen Josh McCown Sage Rosenfels Seneca Wallace Donovan McNabb A.J. Feeley Troy Smith Luke McCown Chris Redman John Beck Jordan Palmer J.P. Losman Kevin O'Connell That list is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Isn't Alex Smith a good QB for a west coast offense? If so, we should have made a play for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Isn't Alex Smith a good QB for a west coast offense? If so, we should have made a play for him. They gave up two early 2nd round picks No Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 this news was broke on the JAY MOHR SHOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Everybody wins in Alex Smith trade to Chiefs By Mike Freeman | National NFL Insider What happened in the NFL on a quiet Wednesday afternoon was something extremely rare: A trade was made in the NFL and everyone involved in the trade won. Yes, everyone. The Chiefs win. They get Alex Smith, who despite limited arm strength and a rocky career has rebounded to where he's one of the more solid throwers in football. Smith is 20-8-1 (including the playoffs) the past two years. The 49ers win. They will get, at least, a reported second-round pick in 2013. They have their quarterback of the future in Colin Kaepernick and now get two high picks for Smith. Those picks are gold. Alex Smith wins. He gets to be a starter. He's rewarded for being a class act. Kaepernick wins. It's his team now. Andy Reid, coach of the Chiefs, also wins. He gets his starter to build the offense around. See what I mean? Sure, you can poke holes in some of the trade, or all of this, but you'd be pushing it. Smith is still relatively young, he's smart and adaptable. He's perfect for Reid's system, particularly since Reid doesn't have his pass throwers toss deep balls. His system values short-range accuracy and Smith can do that. Smith isn't a stopgap. He can play another five years, minimum, at a top level. This approach for Reid is far smarter than going through the draft. Who would you rather have? Matt Barkley or Alex Smith? I'll take Smith. Every personnel evaluator would take Smith for what could end up being two second-rounders. NFL history is riddled with the carcasses of high draft picks who have gone on to be busts. Go down the list: David Carr, Todd Marinovich, JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Dave Brown, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Rick Mirer and, maybe the biggest quarterback bust of all time, Ryan Leaf. On and on it goes. You get the proven commodity. That's it. That's all. Especially if that commodity has proven to be good. So, for one of the first times ever, in an NFL trade: Everyone wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That list is awful. With the exception of McNabb that list could almost be a top QB draft bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 odd story nobody can be traded until the 15th wonder who leaked it and why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Isn't Alex Smith a good QB for a west coast offense? If so, we should have made a play for him. This caveat needs to die. A good QB is a good QB is a good QB, system be damned. That list is awful. If he's let go by the Saints I would look to land Chase Daniels on the cheap, MAYBE. Depends really on what happens...not completely uninterested in Flynn tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I am just surprised how people say this is a great deal for the 49ers. If the JETS were in the same situation where they traded away a player acquired with the 1st pick of the draft for maximum of 2 second rounders this board would be full of people calling the GM who drafted him every name in the book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I am just surprised how people say this is a great deal for the 49ers. If the JETS were in the same situation where they traded away a player acquired with the 1st pick of the draft for maximum of 2 second rounders this board would be full of people calling the GM who drafted him every name in the book! It is. It is not like they are trading Peyton Manning. He was a bust for three season and has been decent the last four. The 49ers are going in a different direction and now have two good draft picks for a guy they do not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I think this can work for KC. They have a shot to build an O-Line around him, maybe pick Joekel. he is a compentent and fairly accurate QB. He gives them a professional starting QB with playoff experience. He is still in his 20s. I think if the idea was to skip over picking Geno with #1 Smith is probably better than what they would have grabbed with the top pick in the 2nd round. I'd love Geno to slip to #9 so the Jets can maybe get a bidding war in and trade the pick, but I can't see AZ letting him get by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Although the team that could really benefit here is Jacksonille. I could see interested teams being sold that the Raider would be picking Geno Smith, and if someone really wanted to jump over Oakland, Jax could get a decent bounty, move down out of the top 10 and gather some picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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