JohnnyHector Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 13th overall pick. #11 in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I'm giving you "the eye." Sorry, I had to call you out before people start lumping us together. I'm a fully autonomous cynic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 When you put in the HOF caliber of Revis and get him for only a 1st and a 2nd round pick its a HUGE win for the team trading for him. Everyone in the NFL knows that a Revis trade will command premium picks. That's why you see this effort by other GM's to try and use media hacks to implicitly downplay what Revis should be traded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Back to my original point, I would rather have a young Parcells here, rather than the incarnation of coach/GM we had the last 4 years. Does he have his faults an foibles? Absolutely. But not more than what is here today. That man could do more with the talent than what Rex can do by far. They actually made a winning qb out of Vinny Testaverde and Ray Lucas. No one else did that. Technically, Rex has made a winning QB out of Mark Sanchez. Lets see Parcells do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 When you put in the HOF caliber of Revis and get him for only a 1st and a 2nd round pick its a HUGE win for the team trading for him. Everyone in the NFL knows that a Revis trade will command premium picks. That's why you see this effort by other GM's to try and use media hacks to implicitly downplay what Revis should be traded for. The bottom line is that as a first time GM, Idzik can't walk away with a deal worse than what Harvin garnered. He's building his own credibility and he knows it. It's similar to what the Twins GM was going through with Santana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The Bucs? Wow that really surprises me. i was going to bet Denver Could just be chatter. The Bucs have $30 mil in cap space, so they'd be a logical rumored landing spot if you wanted to drive up his price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Back to my original point, I would rather have a young Parcells here, rather than the incarnation of coach/GM we had the last 4 years. Does he have his faults an foibles? Absolutely. But not more than what is here today. That man could do more with the talent than what Rex can do by far. They actually made a winning qb out of Vinny Testaverde and Ray Lucas. No one else did that. Hahahahahahaha. He didn't win anything more here than Rex has. Or did they give out AFC runner-up trophies in 1998 and stop before 2009? Do you think that somebody is going to make Sanchez into a winner? Oh wait, Rex already did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 The bottom line is that as a first time GM, Idzik can't walk away with a deal worse than what Harvin garnered. He's building his own credibility and he knows it. It's similar to what the Twins GM was going through with Santana. He would make a better impression if he walked away from this with multiple premium picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 John Clayton was on Mike and Mike saying the Jets are resigned to taking a less than fair deal and may get rid of him for as low as a 2nd round pick. I think that's beyond absurd. If that's the case then just keep him for the year and get a 3rd if he bolts after next year. I don't think there's any chance Idzik start his tenure by becoming the guy who traded Revis for a bag of beans. Clayton sucks. I'm sure he does. I never watch ESPN because they are never right. A confederacy of dunces work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Sorry, I had to call you out before people start lumping us together. I'm a fully autonomous cynic. I should be so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I'm giving you "the eye." Malocchio! The Bucs? Wow that really surprises me. i was going to bet Denver Could just be chatter. The Bucs have $30 mil in cap space, so they'd be a logical rumored landing spot if you wanted to drive up his price Yeah. The Bucs have cap space, but they are famous for not using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Hahahahahahaha. He didn't win anything more here than Rex has. Or did they give out AFC runner-up trophies in 1998 and stop before 2009? Do you think that somebody is going to make Sanchez into a winner? Oh wait, Rex already did. Parcells gave this franchise a direction which maybe set the franchise on not being the laughing stock for the next decade plus. But Rex has done great as well. I still cannot understand the fire Rex sentiment at the start of the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Malocchio! Yeah. The Bucs have cap space, but they are famous for not using it. They could start using the space. Wasn't the owner over leveraged for some years for buying Manchester United. So i would not be surprised by the change of attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I should be so lucky. I'm equally flattered and creeped out by this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Technically, Rex has made a winning QB out of Mark Sanchez. Lets see Parcells do that. Because Vinny Testaverde was racking up Super Bowls before he came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I'm equally flattered and creeped out by this comment. This is the line I walk with every interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 He would make a better impression if he walked away from this with multiple premium picks. Absolutely. Idzik knows that he can't come out of this without a 2013 1st rounder. The rest can be argued about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora The Revis derby isn't limited to one team. Several have had trade talks, including the Eagles and Bucs, and NYJ highly motivated to move him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Eagles have the 4th overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Because Vinny Testaverde was racking up Super Bowls before he came here. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Absolutely. Idzik knows that he can't come out of this without a 2013 1st rounder. The rest can be argued about. I don't see how he gets it. 2nd rounder this year (a pick in the 33-65 range) and a conditional 2014 (that turns into a 1st if Revis walks on water) might be the best they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I don't see how he gets it. 2nd rounder this year (a pick in the 33-65 range) and a conditional 2014 (that turns into a 1st if Revis walks on water) might be the best they get. That would the bargain of the century trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I don't see how he gets it. 2nd rounder this year (a pick in the 33-65 range) and a conditional 2014 (that turns into a 1st if Revis walks on water) might be the best they get. If the offer doesn't include a #1 this year, hang up the phone. Would rather pay him his contract number and let him go than not get a #1. if the Bucs improve their 2014 #1 would probably be low anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Tf should I know? Most definitely more than 6 and I'm pretty comfortable with guessing 8. GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If the offer doesn't include a #1 this year, hang up the phone. Would rather pay him his contract number and let him go than not get a #1. if the Bucs improve their 2014 #1 would probably be low anyway. Why? I'd rather have their 1 next year than this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora The Revis derby isn't limited to one team. Several have had trade talks, including the Eagles and Bucs, and NYJ highly motivated to move him Yeah. Totes only coming away with a second round pick in a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Eagles have the 4th overall pick. If this trade happens at this time of the off season, with Revis not having run yet, I suspect that there will be one pick this year 2-3, and a conditional pick next year if they sign him. A team would have to be insane to give up multiple picks in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I don't see how he gets it. 2nd rounder this year (a pick in the 33-65 range) and a conditional 2014 (that turns into a 1st if Revis walks on water) might be the best they get. I'd jump on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 GTFO Two wins from one roster spot would be pretty useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I don't think people understand that, in most sports, you never get equal value in return for a player like Revis. It's just the way it is. No team, unless they were idiots, would give up a top 10 pick and then some for Revis. Expecting that is just absurd. As much as people love to slurp the Seahawks, they've been a team who overpaid for guys like Whitehurst, signed a guy like Flynn to a crazy deal, etc. So them trading away picks for Harvin isn't out of the blue. Maybe the Jets can trade Revis to the Seahawks. But how many picks do they have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I don't see how he gets it. 2nd rounder this year (a pick in the 33-65 range) and a conditional 2014 (that turns into a 1st if Revis walks on water) might be the best they get. That's because you're blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Because Vinny Testaverde was racking up Super Bowls before he came here. The prevailing pro Belichick wisdom is that Vinny had matured and was becoming a serious QB with the Browns. He went 9-4 and then the following year they knew they were leaving to move to Baltimore and the wheels fell off. The Ravens started out with old Colts coach Ted Marchibroda from the Bert Jones - Roger Carr - Lydell Mitchell Colts and had a top 5 offense the first year, but a sucky D. Vinny T made the pro bowl over 4,000 yards and 30 TDs. The following year Testaverde regressed a bit and was replaced by QB of the future (Eric Zeier! I had to look this up I was way off) and the next year Belly supposedly championed his joining the Jets. Vinny was a victim of circumstance! * No I do not buy this, but it is what I have repeatedly been told by a rabid pro Belichick Giants fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 if we get eagles 1st round pick zomg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 My simple mind tells me that keeping a great player is better than searching for a great player. Not if you only have him 1 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah. Totes only coming away with a second round pick in a bidding war. You're not figuring for his meaniness and greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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