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[#27TheDominator]

Draft picks should have been used for building depth, and look how our drafts have been used for the past few years. It's early and my brain isn't fully up, but other than Kerley I can't think of any quality picks.

 

Guys like the Terminator washed out of the league, and replaced by aging veteran FBs. That's 1 draft pick, and a FA contract or two now, to add Lex Hilliard to the roster. The cost of doing business on that is WAY too much. This is one small example, but it's a perfect example of why we are in this mess.

 

I think Rex and Tanny share equal accountability for how this roster was built, or not built.

 

John Connor is emblematic with what is wrong with our perception of depth picks.   He was not a homerun draft pick, but he certainly is NOT out of the league. He is on the Bengals and played down the stretch and In the playoffs.   He was a pretty good special teams player and made the roster for 3 years.  They only cut the guy because he was hurt and they needed to add bodies due to injury concerns.  It happens all the time around the league. You guys all think they would have drafted depth there, but it is more likely that they would have drafted some sh*tty G that would have sat and never played and been cut in year two.  If Rex didn't say he picked the guy nobody would remember his name.  Think Mitch Petrus.  It is true that missing on too many of those picks, amplified by the fact that they had so few is a problem, but Connor was at least an average pick.  Most of those guys are on practice squads their first year or two.

 

This year = fair opportunity. 

 

He's been given a clean slate and he'll be getting a ton of new pieces, experienced and not, to coach up. If he gets these guys to gel and overachieve, he'll have restored my faith in him. If it's more of the same, then he can go screw.

 

 

I'm not sure that this year is a fair opportunity.  I don't think we can say so without knowing what kind of roster they plan on putting on the field and what their expectations will be.  Shane certainly thinks it won't be a fair opportunity.  He thinks they play to put a young sh*tty roster on the field and have a Lovie Smith style playoffs or fired mandate. In NY sometimes even a good job with the personnel available gets you killed in the press and can get you fired. 

[IPack]

I agree, my fear is that Rex is going to get a free pass beyond this year.

I think he knows this, and that is why he is being quiet right now.

#massdisfunction

That's not the case. Rex is quiet because he no longer has influence in the organization.

Edited by IPack, 17 March 2013 - 11:35 AM.

[JADEDGREEN]

That's not the case. Rex is quiet because he no longer has influence in the organization.

 

I hope that is the case, but Woody still has influence, so I can't be so sure.

[pedro55]

That's not the case. Rex is quiet because he no longer has influence in the organization.

 

 I think people are looking way into Rex being quiet.   What does he have to talk about?  The Jets are cutting people, signing injured backup players, and are on the way to a team who could tank.   He came out to say Revis wasn't going to be traded only to see rumors about a trade happening.  He might not have any say in the organization anynore, but at this point, what would anybody expect from  a loud mouth bragger coming off two non playoff seasons and headed for a 'You're Fired' kind of season ?   "Hey I'm excited we have a Raiders practice squad player!"   Yeah ok.

Edited by pedro55, 17 March 2013 - 04:51 PM.

[BroadwayJoe12]

That's not the case. Rex is quiet because he no longer has influence in the organization.

 

Having influence in the organization is not what made him give the finger to fans down in Miami at a UFC fight or tell reporters how the Jets weren't sharing NY any more, that was just Rex being himself.  People have been clamoring for years for him to shut up and now that he finally does, he's getting ripped for that too.  

[Sperm Edwards]

Great post dude.

 

I'd add Ducasse in their as maybe the 3rd most damaging pick in the past 5 years. The Jets made those picks and are still toiling over how to rebound from them failing.

 

From 2008-2010:

 

Three #1s, two #2s, a #3, a #4, and a #7:  Gholston, Sanchez, Wilson, Ducasse, Greene

 

Brutal.

 

Then throw in a high #2 (#36 overall) and a high #4 (#113 overall) used to trade up to draft Keller.  In relative terms he seems like he was an off-the-charts success...until someone points out that Green Bay used our original #36 pick to draft Jordy Nelson there.

 

In addition to other moves from that time period through last season:

2008 draft: We traded away 3rd and 5th round picks (Kris Jenkins)

2009 draft: We traded away 3rd and 5th round picks (Brett Favre, Lito Sheppard). 

2010 draft: We traded away 3rd and 5th round picks (Braylon Edwards).  Also downgraded our 2010 4th round pick to Philly's 5th for Lito Sheppard.

2011 draft: We traded away a 2nd round pick (Cromartie).

2012 draft: We traded away (net) 4th, 5th, and 6th round picks (Tim Tebow, trade-up for Stephen Hill)

 

There isn't any one of these trades (other than Tebow) that sticks out as being so ridiculous; particularly considering the team's makeup and holes at the time.  But you can't make ALL of these moves year after year and then wonder why there has been so little good, cheap talent on the team for years.

[JADEDGREEN]

 I think people are looking way into Rex being quiet.   What does he have to talk about?  The Jets are cutting people, signing injured backup players, and are on the way to a team who could tank.   He came out to say Revis wasn't going to be traded only to see rumors about a trade happening.  He might not have any say in the organization anynore, but at this point, what would anybody expect from  a loud mouth bragger coming off two non playoff seasons and headed for a 'You're Fired' kind of season ?   "Hey I'm excited we have a Raiders practice squad player!"   Yeah ok.

 

Having influence in the organization is not what made him give the finger to fans down in Miami at a UFC fight or tell reporters how the Jets weren't sharing NY any more, that was just Rex being himself.  People have been clamoring for years for him to shut up and now that he finally does, he's getting ripped for that too.  

 

I was not ripping him, but does it not seem odd, that he is headed for a lame duck year, with a team that is being gutted, and he has nothing to say about it?

[jetsjetsjetss]

From 2008-2010:

 

Three #1s, two #2s, a #3, a #4, and a #7:  Gholston, Sanchez, Wilson, Ducasse, Greene

 

Brutal.

 

Then throw in a high #2 (#36 overall) and a high #4 (#113 overall) used to trade up to draft Keller.  In relative terms he seems like he was an off-the-charts success...until someone points out that Green Bay used our original #36 pick to draft Jordy Nelson there.

 

In addition to other moves from that time period through last season:

2008 draft: We traded away 3rd and 5th round picks (Kris Jenkins)

2009 draft: We traded away 3rd and 5th round picks (Brett Favre, Lito Sheppard). 

2010 draft: We traded away 3rd and 5th round picks (Braylon Edwards).  Also downgraded our 2010 4th round pick to Philly's 5th for Lito Sheppard.

2011 draft: We traded away a 2nd round pick (Cromartie).

2012 draft: We traded away (net) 4th, 5th, and 6th round picks (Tim Tebow, trade-up for Stephen Hill)

 

There isn't any one of these trades (other than Tebow) that sticks out as being so ridiculous; particularly considering the team's makeup and holes at the time.  But you can't make ALL of these moves year after year and then wonder why there has been so little good, cheap talent on the team for years.

 

i miss kris jenkins....

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