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The Evolution of our 2013 Roster

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SoFlaJets    103,747

Saw it, cool find.

 

I'm going to put the link here for now.

 

When I have some free time I'll try to put the screen capture in, problem is, it's always going to be fluid. Might be better just to check the link regularly? I dunno.

 

Thanks man

yea they are the best-a few years ago they went to pay-only site, and then last season they started letting us view the depth charts for free. They are the best out there too

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#27TheDominator    203,590

Who set up that depth chart?  It's a good resource, but there are some interesting placements. They have Garay starting over Ellis.  I thought it might just be that they had all the FAs starting, but Bilal Powell is listed over Goodson.

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LAD_Brooklyn    82

:cussing: Jarret is both better then Bush and Allen as safety. Allen is a hybrid LB, while Bush is a finesse S who's really a CB. Jarret is a real safety.

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gangreenman    56,122

I was just taking a peek ahead at who the players are that are likely to be on the 2014 roster. It's a fairly blank slate. Just a cursory overview. If anyone sees discrepancies, feel free to add/correct.

 

QB: None.

 

McElroy is the only one whose contract extends beyond this year, and he's not making it out of camp. Tebow will be released soon, Sanchez after the season. Garrard is on a one year deal.

 

 

RB: Bilal Powell and Mike Goodson.

 

McKnight's contract is up at the end of the season (IIRC).

 

 

WR: Stephen Hill, Jeremy Kerley, Clyde Gates

 

Gates might show enough as a return man to replace McKnight. Holmes will be cut.

 

 

TE: None

 

Cumberland was tendered, so he's on a show-me deal. The rugby player and Konrad Reuland terminate at the end of this season.

 

 

OL: Brick, Mangold, Schlauderaff

 

Howard and Colon are on one-year deals. Vlad is up at the end of 2013.

 

 

 

DL: Wilkerson, Coples, Harrison, Ellis

 

Good shape overall.

 

 

 

LB: Demario Davis

 

Harris will be cut or violently restructured. Sapp is up, Bellore is up, Mauga is up.

 

 

S: Josh Bush, Antonio Allen

 

One or both need to step forward

 

 

CB: Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson

 

Assuming Revis is traded/not restructured,

Thats why Idzik's success or failure will be based almost entirely on the next two drafts (this years and next years). His moves thus far have set it up to be so. 

If, by May 2014, he lands us a good QB, a dominant pass rusher, and 2 capable long-term starters on the OL and LB corps's than he will be considered a success. 

If not - failure. 

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pedro55    62

Thats why Idzik's success or failure will be based almost entirely on the next two drafts (this years and next years). His moves thus far have set it up to be so. 

If, by May 2014, he lands us a good QB, a dominant pass rusher, and 2 capable long-term starters on the OL and LB corps's than he will be considered a success. 

If not - failure. 

 

  Very true.  Idzik at this point is slashing players, looking to slash more next year and signing mostly guys who will be one or two year rentals.

The draft over the next two years as well as the coaching staff will determine Idzki's success.  If Rex is fired, it becomes who is hired and how they do.

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Integrity28    60,570

Updated the original post to reflect Revis trade:

 

Absolute needs are: QB, WR, OG, TE, DT, OLB, CB, S 

 

Nice to haves are: RB, OT, ILB

 

Looks to me like we can undoubtedly draft best available player, lol.

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CrazyCarl40    49,447

Updated the original post to reflect Revis trade:

Absolute needs are: QB, WR, OG, TE, DT, OLB, CB, S

Nice to haves are: RB, OT, ILB

Looks to me like we can undoubtedly draft best available player, lol.

Since when is a DT a need? I'd put that in nice to have.

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Integrity28    60,570

Since when is a DT a need? I'd put that in nice to have.

 

Noted. There's nothing official about this man, it's just my opinion. 

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GATA    189

If you plan on keeping this updated that would be great.  It is a really nice and easy to read update on the team.  Thanks.

 

And I like the colors.

 

I concur ... I have been so out of the loop with Jets News the last couple of months.

This would be the easiest way to catch up when I miss roster shifts . 

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Integrity28    60,570

I concur ... I have been so out of the loop with Jets News the last couple of months.

This would be the easiest way to catch up when I miss roster shifts . 

 

 

Well then, you'll be happy to know I just updated it ;)

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Integrity28    60,570

Updated the original post to reflect Revis trade:

 

Absolute needs are: QB, WR, OG, TE, DT, OLB, CB, S 

 

Nice to haves are: RB, OT, ILB

 

Looks to me like we can undoubtedly draft best available player, lol.

Not my preferred selections, but we've gone BPA and addressed two "need" positions.

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Integrity28    60,570

Updated again. So far, by going BPA the Jets have address 4 of my "absolute needs". I'm actually loving this draft for us right now, 4 picks, 3 rounds, 4 starters.

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Integrity28    60,570

Updated the original post to reflect Revis trade:

 

Absolute needs are: QB, WR, OG, TE, DT, OLB, CB, S 

 

Nice to haves are: RB, OT, ILB

 

Looks to me like we can undoubtedly draft best available player, lol.

 

 

We addressed 4 major needs, with starting caliber draft picks. We added a RB, and Winters actually presents versatility on the OL where we get both OG/OT out of him, I hope.

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LAD_Brooklyn    82

In a 4-3 or should I say nickle package the defense would look like this:

 

DT WIlkerson, Richardson

DE Coples, Pace/Barnes *standup DEs

LB Harris (Mike) Davis (Will)

CB Cromartie, Wilson, Milliner

S   Landry (SS), Jarret (FS)

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JayKwaz    1,330

I see Vlad and Winters starting at RG and LG respectively. Vlad to me has more ability then any other guard in the roster and they wikl give him every chance to start, as they should.

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#27TheDominator    203,590

In a 4-3 or should I say nickle package the defense would look like this:

 

DT WIlkerson, Richardson

DE Coples, Pace/Barnes *standup DEs

LB Harris (Mike) Davis (Will)

CB Cromartie, Wilson, Milliner

S   Landry (SS), Jarret (FS)

 

I think you said before that you liked Jaiquan Jarrett, but I think it is a stretch to have him on top of the depth chart right now. I think Bush is probably ahead and I fully expect some action in signings at safety.

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CrazyCarl40    49,447

I see Vlad and Winters starting at RG and LG respectively. Vlad to me has more ability then any other guard in the roster and they wikl give him every chance to start, as they should.

There is not a single chance in hell Vlad makes it out of training camp. The jets took like 37 guards and signed Colon. Vlad is all but done here.

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Integrity28    60,570

I think you said before that you liked Jaiquan Jarrett, but I think it is a stretch to have him on top of the depth chart right now. I think Bush is probably ahead and I fully expect some action in signings at safety.

 

 

Agreed.

 

Didn't Rex play both Yeremiah and Laron at the same time last year? Both strong safeties? I could see a scenario where he's got Dawan and Bush on the field at the same time. I dunno... Rex doesn't really do anything traditional, outside of letting corners be corners. I'm not too concerned, he's had this defense perform great against the pass for a couple years now and never really needed "name" players to do it at safety.

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LAD_Brooklyn    82

I think you said before that you liked Jaiquan Jarrett, but I think it is a stretch to have him on top of the depth chart right now. I think Bush is probably ahead and I fully expect some action in signings at safety.

 

Not sure why it's a stretch as he's by far the better prospects. Bush still has some ways to go as a 6th rounder who has only played safety for the past two year after converting from CB because of his burst.  Also Bush is a FS not at all a SS. Not very physical or instinctive player but I think he should progress as he learns the S position. 

 

Jarret on the other hand is a 3rd round talent. Granted the Eagles like him enough to reach for him in the 2nd but they felt that's where he was valued and threw him out there way to early especially without a training camp due to the lockout. Mike Zordich system on the other hand stinks, please name me one player that played decent for him? If they new regime were in the front office there's now way they would have released him. Yes Jarret isn't fast but probably just as fast at Bush and he's instinctive and tough.

 

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#27TheDominator    203,590

Not sure why it's a stretch as he's by far the better prospects. Bush still has some ways to go as a 6th rounder who has only played safety for the past two year after converting from CB because of his burst.  Also Bush is a FS not at all a SS. Not very physical or instinctive player but I think he should progress as he learns the S position. 

 

Jarret on the other hand is a 3rd round talent. Granted the Eagles like him enough to reach for him in the 2nd but they felt that's where he was valued and threw him out there way to early especially without a training camp due to the lockout. Mike Zordich system on the other hand stinks, please name me one player that played decent for him? If they new regime were in the front office there's now way they would have released him. Yes Jarret isn't fast but probably just as fast at Bush and he's instinctive and tough.

 

 

It's your opinion and you have as much chance of being right as anybody, but Bush played last year. The Jets had Jarrett in as soon as he was cut and elected not to sign him.  The guy spend all year out of football.  If they liked him more than Bush and Allen, they would have signed him then.  They kept Antonio Allen around off and on and didn't have any problem signing and cutting DBs.  The Eagles secondary sucked, but Jarrett was pretty damn bad there.  Everything I have read has Landry at SS, so they would be more likely to pair him with a FS anyway.  Where the guy was drafted is irrelevant, especially when you consider he has been a complete flop since.  As I said, I think it's irrelevant because I'm betting they sign an actual player. Also, he is considerably slower - like 1-2 full tenths. 

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LAD_Brooklyn    82

It's your opinion and you have as much chance of being right as anybody, but Bush played last year. The Jets had Jarrett in as soon as he was cut and elected not to sign him. The guy spend all year out of football.  If they liked him more than Bush and Allen, they would have signed him then.

 

He was cut after week 2. So he didn't spend all of last year out of football. His agent decision to not sign him with a team was for many factors including healing his operated wrist, but most of all doubling up as the Eagles have to pay him his remaining salary for the next two seasons (2013, 2014). If sign with a team that would have been canceled but since not the case he going to make over $700 k this season and 800 k next season from the Eagles along with what ever the Jets are going to pay him. When release he had over 20 teams contact him but wanted to be closer to home (Bedstey, Brooklyn).

 

The Eagles secondary sucked, but Jarrett was pretty damn bad there.

 

His rookie season right? I know he didn't really screw up but neither did he make any plays. He was sort of just out there but the Eages were for sure desperate for an immediate starter. Also threw him out there without a legit training camp with the lockout.

 

he has been a complete flop since.

 

I just think he wasn't NFL ready. That like us cutting Hill week 2 of next season if we don't like what we see. That kind of shows lots of impatience if you ask me. As for seed it's just about the same wit Jarret being a better football player.

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JayKwaz    1,330

There is not a single chance in hell Vlad makes it out of training camp. The jets took like 37 guards and signed Colon. Vlad is all but done here.

It's not like they brought in Carl Nicks or Will Shields. They didnt even bring back Brandon Moore. Vlad has more ability then any guards in the team. He and Winters IMHO will be the starters.

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CrazyCarl40    49,447

It's not like they brought in Carl Nicks or Will Shields. They didnt even bring back Brandon Moore. Vlad has more ability then any guards in the team. He and Winters IMHO will be the starters.

Haha. Vlad is awful. He's the worst. Colon is better and Peterman is too.

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JayKwaz    1,330

Haha. Vlad is awful. He's the worst. Colon is better and Peterman is too.

We are going to have to disagree on this one Carl, I think Vlad will be a good guard. We will find out in a few months.

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CrazyCarl40    49,447

We are going to have to disagree on this one Carl, I think Vlad will be a good guard. We will find out in a few months.

I hope he proves me wrong but if the front office had ANY faith he could turn it around they wouldn't have signed two FA guards and drafted three more.

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JayKwaz    1,330

I hope he proves me wrong but if the front office had ANY faith he could turn it around they wouldn't have signed two FA guards and drafted three more.

Not to keep beating a dead horse here, but I see Colon as the perfect backup, can play tackle or guard. Peterman is just a jag brought in for depth. Oboushi is a RT, and Campbell is a project who should be on the practice squad. Schlauderauff is a nice backup because he can play center also, our new Rob Turner for a few seasons. Winters is a future starter and his future is now. That leaves Vlad as the starter in my eyes. 

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