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#1 kelly

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

Get ready for another Carson Palmer drama

 


When owners and teams treat football like a business, media and fans shrug. 

When players do, it’s regarded as an affront to the integrity of the game.



It’s not fair, but that’s the way it is.  And Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer


needs to brace himself for that reaction as he tries to force his way out of Oakland.



It’s obvious Palmer wants out.  Two years ago, he finagled his exit

from Cincinnati by feigning retirement.  The strategy looked to be a

failure until Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell broke his collarbone


and former Raiders coach Hue Jackson lost his damn mind, giving up


a first-round pick and a second-round pick for a quarterback who isn’t


the guy he used to be.



Now, Palmer is turning up his nose at $10 million from the Raiders,

which sets the stage for the Raiders eventually to cut him — and for

Palmer to play for someone else.



As Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports explains it, Palmer wants to play for a contender,

even if it means being a backup.  (Cough . . . Seahawks and Pete

Carroll . . . cough.)  Of course, Palmer won’t get $10 million to be a

backup, but his willingness to walk away from football in order to get

out of Cincinnati proves that he’d be willing to walk away from $10

million in order to get a shot at winning.



Palmer’s posture also reflects a belief that, despite the hiring of

G.M. Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen, Palmer doesn’t see the

silver-and-black bus getting turned around in the immediate future. 

Otherwise, he’d gladly take $10 million to stay put.



The problem is that the Raiders currently hold all the cards.  With

no seven-figure trigger in Palmer’s deal, the $13 million doesn’t become

fully guaranteed until Week One, which means the Raiders can cut him

much later in the offseason, if they draft a quarterback early — or if

they eventually decide Terrelle Pryor can get the job done.  The only


risk the Raiders are taking is that, ifPalmer drops a dumbbell on his foot


or pops an Achilles tendon in offseason conditioning drills or otherwise


suffers a season-ending injury while on the clock, the Raiders will owe


Palmer his full salary.



That could set the stage for a Steve McNair-style lockout.  Even

without Palmer being barred from the building (which would violate the

CBA), Palmer is making his second power play in two years.




When a team does it, we applaud.  Fair or not, Palmer should prepare

for the jeers and the boos and the accusations of being a chronic

quitter.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

Can we trade Sanchez and switch contracts?
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:50 PM

Get ready for another Carson Palmer drama

 

When owners and teams treat football like a business, media and fans shrug. 
When players do, it’s regarded as an affront to the integrity of the game.


It’s not fair, but that’s the way it is.  And Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer

needs to brace himself for that reaction as he tries to force his way out of Oakland.


It’s obvious Palmer wants out.  Two years ago, he finagled his exit
from Cincinnati by feigning retirement.  The strategy looked to be a
failure until Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell broke his collarbone

and former Raiders coach Hue Jackson lost his damn mind, giving up

a first-round pick and a second-round pick for a quarterback who isn’t

the guy he used to be.


Now, Palmer is turning up his nose at $10 million from the Raiders,
which sets the stage for the Raiders eventually to cut him — and for
Palmer to play for someone else.


As Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports explains it, Palmer wants to play for a contender,
even if it means being a backup.  (Cough . . . Seahawks and Pete
Carroll . . . cough.)  Of course, Palmer won’t get $10 million to be a
backup, but his willingness to walk away from football in order to get
out of Cincinnati proves that he’d be willing to walk away from $10
million in order to get a shot at winning.


Palmer’s posture also reflects a belief that, despite the hiring of
G.M. Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen, Palmer doesn’t see the
silver-and-black bus getting turned around in the immediate future. 
Otherwise, he’d gladly take $10 million to stay put.


The problem is that the Raiders currently hold all the cards.  With
no seven-figure trigger in Palmer’s deal, the $13 million doesn’t become
fully guaranteed until Week One, which means the Raiders can cut him
much later in the offseason, if they draft a quarterback early — or if
they eventually decide Terrelle Pryor can get the job done.  The only

risk the Raiders are taking is that, ifPalmer drops a dumbbell on his foot

or pops an Achilles tendon in offseason conditioning drills or otherwise

suffers a season-ending injury while on the clock, the Raiders will owe

Palmer his full salary.


That could set the stage for a Steve McNair-style lockout.  Even
without Palmer being barred from the building (which would violate the
CBA), Palmer is making his second power play in two years.


When a team does it, we applaud.  Fair or not, Palmer should prepare
for the jeers and the boos and the accusations of being a chronic
quitter.
    


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

If cut he should be on the radar of the Jets. Make him the next Vinny. I'm not even sure how much I buy that, but i think I'm one of the few who still thinks Palmer can play.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:54 PM

Get ready for another Carson Palmer drama

 

When owners and teams treat football like a business, media and fans shrug. 
When players do, it’s regarded as an affront to the integrity of the game.


It’s not fair, but that’s the way it is.  And Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer

needs to brace himself for that reaction as he tries to force his way out of Oakland.


It’s obvious Palmer wants out.  Two years ago, he finagled his exit
from Cincinnati by feigning retirement.  The strategy looked to be a
failure until Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell broke his collarbone

and former Raiders coach Hue Jackson lost his damn mind, giving up

a first-round pick and a second-round pick for a quarterback who isn’t

the guy he used to be.


Now, Palmer is turning up his nose at $10 million from the Raiders,
which sets the stage for the Raiders eventually to cut him — and for
Palmer to play for someone else.


As Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports explains it, Palmer wants to play for a contender,
even if it means being a backup.  (Cough . . . Seahawks and Pete
Carroll . . . cough.)  Of course, Palmer won’t get $10 million to be a
backup, but his willingness to walk away from football in order to get
out of Cincinnati proves that he’d be willing to walk away from $10
million in order to get a shot at winning.


Palmer’s posture also reflects a belief that, despite the hiring of
G.M. Reggie McKenzie and coach Dennis Allen, Palmer doesn’t see the
silver-and-black bus getting turned around in the immediate future. 
Otherwise, he’d gladly take $10 million to stay put.


The problem is that the Raiders currently hold all the cards.  With
no seven-figure trigger in Palmer’s deal, the $13 million doesn’t become
fully guaranteed until Week One, which means the Raiders can cut him
much later in the offseason, if they draft a quarterback early — or if
they eventually decide Terrelle Pryor can get the job done.  The only

risk the Raiders are taking is that, ifPalmer drops a dumbbell on his foot

or pops an Achilles tendon in offseason conditioning drills or otherwise

suffers a season-ending injury while on the clock, the Raiders will owe

Palmer his full salary.


That could set the stage for a Steve McNair-style lockout.  Even
without Palmer being barred from the building (which would violate the
CBA), Palmer is making his second power play in two years.


When a team does it, we applaud.  Fair or not, Palmer should prepare
for the jeers and the boos and the accusations of being a chronic
quitter.
    

 

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

If anyone can lure him, its Rex Ryan. 


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

I would be interested, but I doubt the price would be right.  The guy hasn't won more than 4 games since 2009 when he was bitchslapped by the Jets in the playoffs.  A typically ill prepared Rex Ryan team held him to 1-11, 0 yards and an INT, but hey we backed into the playoffs.  It's not like we deserved to be there or anything. 


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:27 PM

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i apol.

And that makes it a triple post. C'mon dude - you're better than this! This is making you look like some pathetic attention whore! Get it together Bro!


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

And that makes it a triple post. C'mon dude - you're better than this! This is making you look like some pathetic attention whore! Get it together Bro!

 

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 04:55 PM

If cut he should be on the radar of the Jets. Make him the next Vinny. I'm not even sure how much I buy that, but i think I'm one of the few who still thinks Palmer can play.

 

He still has some football left. He's barely 33.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

If cut he should be on the radar of the Jets. Make him the next Vinny. I'm not even sure how much I buy that, but i think I'm one of the few who still thinks Palmer can play.

 

I saw a bunch of Raiders games this past year.  Seemed like plenty of times after he threw a pick (or a seemingly-errant throw) he was chewing out his receiver as they headed back to the sideline, with the receiver not arguing back.  And he threw for over 4000 yards with a pretty weak receiving corps.  I don't know.  He probably sucks I guess.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

I saw a bunch of Raiders games this past year. Seemed like plenty of times after he threw a pick (or a seemingly-errant throw) he was chewing out his receiver as they headed back to the sideline, with the receiver not arguing back. And he threw for over 4000 yards with a pretty weak receiving corps. I don't know. He probably sucks I guess.


Yeah, it's easy to lean towards him sucking but of guys who even might be available for a relatively low price...He's tough, tall, strong armed, and experienced and I'm not sure there's even a more interesting option out there besides Geno Smith.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

If cut he should be on the radar of the Jets. Make him the next Vinny. I'm not even sure how much I buy that, but i think I'm one of the few who still thinks Palmer can play.

 

this aint a bad Idea but we dont exactly have Wayne Chrebet and Keyshawn Johnson catching passes with a young Curtis Martin out of the backfield now do we ??? As this team stands now NO QB is going to fair well unless big changes are made on the offensive side of the ball.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

One change that most likely absolutely needs to be made is Mark Sanchez. I bet Palmer can do better, like significantly better than Sanchez, with Holmes running his route tree, Kerley/Goodson handling the short yardage game, and Stephen Hill running in a straight line to the end zone. Add a TE or more likely two and the Jets are in business next year.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:11 PM

Ill take him over Kolb easily.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

Ill take him over Kolb easily.

 

I'll take him over any QB on our roster or any they've been eyeballing.  Just not at $10MM to $13MM per.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

One change that most likely absolutely needs to be made is Mark Sanchez. I bet Palmer can do better, like significantly better than Sanchez, with Holmes running his route tree, Kerley/Goodson handling the short yardage game, and Stephen Hill running in a straight line to the end zone. Add a TE or more likely two and the Jets are in business next year.

You're talking about guys who wouldn't start for any good offense in the NFL. So "in business" probably isn't the best way to put it.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

You're talking about guys who wouldn't start for any good offense in the NFL. So "in business" probably isn't the best way to put it.

 

.Holmes would start for most good offenses in the NFL if/when he's healthy. Kerley is a fine #3 WR on pretty much any roster. Hill...well he's tall and fast so that can have it's uses with a real QB and not a guy playing worse than half the backups in the league. 

 

Palmer was a top 20 QB last year with Heyward-Bey, Criner, and Brandon Myers forming the meat of his receivers...The guy with the second most receptions on the roster was the fullback. The Jets' group, even before FA and the draft are done, is better than that. 


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:55 PM

.Holmes would start for most good offenses in the NFL if/when he's healthy. Kerley is a fine #3 WR on pretty much any roster. Hill...well he's tall and fast so that can have it's uses with a real QB and not a guy playing worse than half the backups in the league. 
 
Palmer was a top 20 QB last year with Heyward-Bey, Criner, and Brandon Myers forming the meat of his receivers...The guy with the second most receptions on the roster was the fullback. The Jets' group, even before FA and the draft are done, is better than that.

We have no idea what Holmes we're going to get this year though and REALLY no idea what we're going to get out of Stephen Hill. They are huge question marks. I'm not disagreeing with you about palmer not being a bad option here but the talent around him wouldn't be good.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

We have no idea what Holmes we're going to get this year though and REALLY no idea what we're going to get out of Stephen Hill. They are huge question marks. I'm not disagreeing with you about palmer not being a bad option here but the talent around him wouldn't be good.


Given a half decent QB, probably a half decent Holmes (if healthy). These guys are all larger question marks with the GIANT question mark at the QB position. A solid, starting level QB is going to get more out of these guys than the Jets' bottom of the league QB play last year did, and those gains in performance can mean a great deal to a W-L record. There's no real need to pretend these guys will be the only pass catching options on the roster come September anyway, or that there isn't a ton of time left in this offseason to move the margins on either side of the ball pretty significantly. 

 

I do wish he could bring Moore with him...somewhat reminiscent of a young Holmes, though probably less tested in major spots. 


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:30 PM

most over rated QB ever? 


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:13 PM


most over rated QB ever?

Not even in the conversation. Guy looked like a superstar until Kimo took out his knee. Since then it's been a lot of taking the blame - another QB duty.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:23 AM

Does he have the "feet" to play on a Rex Ryan team?


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:14 AM

Can we trade Sanchez and switch contracts?

I just don't like University of Southern California QB's they are not very good at being proffessional ballers.

USC QB's does not make good NFL signal caller.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:27 AM

Everybody here is talking about bringing Palmer here....did you all miss the part where he said he is doing this to play for a contender????


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