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When will the Jets be competitive again?


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this year has been absolutely miserable, yet it looks like TB/Herm will be back for another go around. as much as that sickens me, i have already accepted it as reality. '06 will feature both Herm/TB trying to keep their jobs so forget about a cap purge (chad, cmart, mawae, jmac, dbust, etc) and rebuiling effort and expect somewhere from 6-10 to 8-8.

my question is when will this team be in position for a run at the super bowl? this was supposed to be the year and it turned into the worst season AD (after Dick). i can't imagine making a run next year, so the question becomes when is it our year?

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this year has been absolutely miserable, yet it looks like TB/Herm will be back for another go around. as much as that sickens me, i have already accepted it as reality. '06 will feature both Herm/TB trying to keep their jobs so forget about a cap purge (chad, cmart, mawae, jmac, dbust, etc) and rebuiling effort and expect somewhere from 6-10 to 8-8.

my question is when will this team be in position for a run at the super bowl? this was supposed to be the year and it turned into the worst season AD (after d!ck). i can't imagine making a run next year, so the question becomes when is it our year?

Depends on Chad, a number of contracts that must be restructure, the cap, how well we draft. I think is possible we can make a run at the SB, but with Herm and Bradway, we are F!

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Depends on Chad, a number of contracts that must be restructure, the cap, how well we draft. I think is possible we can make a run at the SB, but with Herm and Bradway, we are F!

Hackett, you can't be serious?

A "run at the Super Bowl"? :shock:

Dude, the Jets will be extremely lucky to see .500 in the next 5 years.

Your team is in complete shambles.

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TX, what a stupid post. 5 years? Teams go from horrible to good in 1 offseason. Theres a fine line between the winners and losers in the NFL.

barton, that is my point exactly.

The teams that turn it around quickly from a poor season has an involved owner, a krafty GM and a smart HC.

Unfortunately, the Jets are 0-3 on that criteria.

Not to mention what the Jets need to turn things around:

2 stud OLinemen

QB

RB

TE

CB

NT

DT

So yes, based on the "management team" that is in place, and the huge needs of the Jets, it will be 5 years before they see the right side of .500. :wink:

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barton, that is my point exactly.

The teams that turn it around quickly from a poor season has an involved owner, a krafty GM and a smart HC.

Unfortunately, the Jets are 0-3 on that criteria.

Not to mention what the Jets need to turn things around:

2 stud OLinemen

QB

RB

TE

CB

NT

DT

So yes, based on the "management team" that is in place, and the huge needs of the Jets, it will be 5 years before they see the right side of .500. :wink:

I'd strike TE (Baker is above average and Jolley can catch...usually). Also, strike either DT or NT (one or the other should help plenty. CB is pretty solid with new upstarts coming in (strait and Miller) so a crafty Vet backup is all that;s needed (Barret to nickel?). That leaves QB, RB, and O-line.

QB is a wildcard--no telling what Penny will be capable of. Also this position is tied strongly to the progress of O-line (especially if Bolly gets the snaps.)

RB will be fine IF Houston/Blaylock get at least half the carries. A platoon system will do wonders, and there is some talent already on the squad.

O-line: well...if the O-line sucks as bad over the next few years as they have this season, then QB and RB are suddenly more serious problems than they need be. It would take star-quality players to overcome the horrific play of this unit. So Bottom line, as the offensive line goes, so goes the offense. This team can keep games close and be competitive much sooner than you'd think. But not if our bckfeild is running for it's life or sitting in the trainer's tub all season.

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barton, that is my point exactly.

The teams that turn it around quickly from a poor season has an involved owner, a krafty GM and a smart HC.

Unfortunately, the Jets are 0-3 on that criteria.

Not to mention what the Jets need to turn things around:

2 stud OLinemen

QB

RB

TE

CB

NT

DT

So yes, based on the "management team" that is in place, and the huge needs of the Jets, it will be 5 years before they see the right side of .500. :wink:

Ok. At least you bring something real to the table in this arguement.

Anyways, tx. So how did the Jets go from "the laughing stock of the NFL" in 2003, to a field goal away from the AFC Champ game in 2004.

In 1 offseason, they gutted the entire defense. Theres no reason to think we cant do that again this offseason, only with the offense.

You're list. Cross of cornerback. With Miller, Barrett and Strait we dont "need" a corner.

Dtackle? Eh, no.

Nose tackle? Yes

Running back? 1st rd pick

TE? Not a chance. Jolley is more than capable.

QB? Maybe not. I fully expect Pennington to come back and be our starter, and play well. If not, I doubt we'll be go 8-8.

Oline: Right tackle. Maybe a replacement for Mawae if he is cut. A new left guard.

So basically we need:

Left Guard, Right tackle, Running back, Nose tackle. Possibly a center.

Those are our definite needs. We could use depth at other positions, but those are the positions that need to be filled.

It all starts with the QB. If Pennington can come back and stay healthy, I have no doubt that this team will be very competitive in 2006.

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Ok. At least you bring something real to the table in this arguement.

Anyways, tx. So how did the Jets go from "the laughing stock of the NFL" in 2003, to a field goal away from the AFC Champ game in 2004.

In 1 offseason, they gutted the entire defense. Theres no reason to think we cant do that again this offseason, only with the offense.

You're list. Cross of cornerback. With Miller, Barrett and Strait we dont "need" a corner.

Dtackle? Eh, no.

Nose tackle? Yes

Running back? 1st rd pick

TE? Not a chance. Jolley is more than capable.

QB? Maybe not. I fully expect Pennington to come back and be our starter, and play well. If not, I doubt we'll be go 8-8.

Oline: Right tackle. Maybe a replacement for Mawae if he is cut. A new left guard.

So basically we need:

Left Guard, Right tackle, Running back, Nose tackle. Possibly a center.

Those are our definite needs. We could use depth at other positions, but those are the positions that need to be filled.

It all starts with the QB. If Pennington can come back and stay healthy, I have no doubt that this team will be very competitive in 2006.

OK barton, that was one of your better posts.

Let's just say we have a difference of opinion and we'll see how things play out.

PS, Jolley more than capable? :shock: The friggn' Jets gave up a 1st round pick for this loser. :wink:

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soo much love huh? anyways, bartons right on, except as much as ive been unwilling to write drob off, that knee concerns me as to whether or not he can ever be productive for 16 games, much less 16 games and the playoffs. Everything else i basically agree with pennington, with one slight exception. If pennington is a flop all year long, we're headed for another top 5 pick i think. You just cant go an entire season without your teams heart and soul and see .500. He comes back 100%(and yes...for the 1,000,000th time i KNOW its unlikely), and we contend for the playoffs next year.

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Luminous is this mind,

Brightly shining, but it is

Colored by the attachments

That visit it.

This unlearned people do not

Really understand,

And so do not cultivate the mind.

Luminous is this mind,

Brightly shining,

And it is free of the

Attachments that visit it.

This the noble follower

Of the Way really understands;

So for them there is

Cultivation of the mind.

- Anguttara Nikaya

I follow the ascetic way, myself. Complete denial of all human pleasure and self-flagellation are excellent preparatory excercises for each coming football season.

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i think bush could bring us to a wildcard spot, look at it this way, he takes away pressure off the qb as defenses will scheme for bush specifically. if we go after o-lineman it just prolongs the suspense of chad underthrowing a receiver. from a marketing and winning standpoint, bush makes sense. remember 10 years ago we had the first pick, we took at usc player...

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