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Tampa Bay Times: Price For Revis May be to High


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#1 flgreen

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

Jets' price for Revis may be too high for Bucs

Rick Stroud, Times Staff Writer 

Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:14pm
 

 

 

 

 

The Bucs may pass on a chance to trade for Darrelle Revis if the Jets continue to insist on three draft picks for the Pro Bowl cornerback.

 

The Jets reportedly have asked for the Bucs' 13th overall pick in the NFL draft April 25, as well as selections in the third and fifth rounds. It's not clear whether one, both or neither of those later picks could come in 2014.

 

Tampa Bay appears ready to trade its first-round pick in 2013 and 'something else,' but the Bucs believe they are the only team with the salary cap room and the need at cornerback currently engaged in talks for Revis. The Bucs are $32.8-million under the salary cap, second only to Cleveland ($33.6-million), but the Browns have not been linked to Revis.
 


 

 


Tampa Bay was last in the league in pass defense and has a dire need at cornerback. They did not address the position through free agency, opting only to sign Eric Wright to a restructured 1-year contract. Veteran Ronde Barber has not decided whether to return for a 17th season.

 

But the Bucs front office and coach Greg Schiano are in agreement that the Jets' price is currently too high for Revis, especially due to the lack of suitors and the fact he is coming off surgery to repair a torn ACL. While Revis was cleared to begin running without restriction following an examination of his knee in New York Monday, it is not a trade that can be made on the clock. The Bucs would want several days to have Revis' injury evaluated. In addition to the draft picks, the Bucs must be prepared to pay Revis about $15-million per year.

 

Eight days before the NFL dtaft, the Bucs and Jets are in a virtual stare down when it comes to Revis.

 

Schiano has said he is not afraid to start a rookie cornerback and they could be in position to draft one in the first round. Last year, safety Mark Barron, linebacker Lavonte David and running back Doug Martin combined to start 48 games as rookies.

 

“Yeah, it’s very difficult to pull the trigger on a deal like that and reach a compensation level that makes everyone happy and I don’t know what the players’ prognosis is,'' said former Colts and Bills general manager Bill Polian. "Everybody is always ahead of schedule and you don’t know until you see him on the field and even then it’s difficult to tell in the preseason because it’s not the same speed as the regular season. It’s hard to reach a level of compensation the trading team may want based on the situation. The injury is a complicating factor, there are no two ways about that. I understand the reluctance.’’



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#2 j4jets

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:57 PM

Good...1st, 3rd, and 5th are too low anyways. Gotta be a 1st and a 2nd plus 'something else'.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:01 PM

Don't know why you would think that is good.

 

Jets' are not going to resign him one way or the other


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

Good...1st, 3rd, and 5th are too low anyways. Gotta be a 1st and a 2nd plus 'something else'.

 

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

Don't know why you would think that is good.

 

Jets' are not going to resign him one way or the other

 

if they don't get a good deal the right move is to keep him. 


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:22 PM

This is Bucs seeing if they can shake the tree loose on the Revis trade. On the other hand you do not see any leaks from the JETS right now!


Edited by JetsFanInDenver, 17 April 2013 - 04:22 PM.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:23 PM

Good...1st, 3rd, and 5th are too low anyways. Gotta be a 1st and a 2nd plus 'something else'.

 

 

well its gonna wind up being a compensatory 3rd rounder in 2014...........


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:26 PM

if they don't get a good deal the right move is to keep him. 

 

 

so ur cool with keeping him this year even though we arent going to win anything with or without him, then we're def not gonna re-sign him.....so we just lose him for what will be, basically, a 4th round pick........you think thats the right move?


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:29 PM

well its gonna wind up being a compensatory 3rd rounder in 2014...........


2015, unfortunately.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:31 PM

2015, unfortunately.

 

 

is it the year after? i thought it was the same year....thats even worse


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:39 PM

if they don't get a good deal the right move is to keep him. 

What is a "good deal" ?

3 picks including a 1st rounder(13) is a good deal to me.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:40 PM

is it the year after? i thought it was the same year....thats even worse


Yeah, they'll do their magic secret free agent calculations based on the free agents the Jets lose and sign in 2014, then award the appropriate comp picks the following year.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:41 PM

Yeah, they'll do their magic secret free agent calculations based on the free agents the Jets lose and sign in 2014, then award the appropriate comp picks the following year.

 

 

yeah we're gonna be losing revis for whats gonna end up being a mediocre o-lineman who will be a rotation player by 2017


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

You always get the best deal when you are ready to walk away. A 1st, 3rd and 5th rounder are not good compensation for Revis and from reports they are not even getting that and not in the same draft. And all we have seen is Revis's agents and the Bucs whining away with leaks and articles like above being the norm!

 

Wosrt case scenario you let him play for you all of next season and get the comp pick. But the JETS can also trade him away during the season. If Revis shuts out one WR completely the amount of compensation will be higher. Granted it won't be in the coming week's draft! It not a bad place to be.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 05:05 PM

I am so hoping this turns out that we are showing Revis "Hey, no one wants you" and then sign up long term.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 05:09 PM

Posturing closer to actual draft this deal has to be done


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

Take 13 get Warmack or Cooper and give the slut the hook already.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 05:35 PM

so ur cool with keeping him this year even though we arent going to win anything with or without him, then we're def not gonna re-sign him.....so we just lose him for what will be, basically, a 4th round pick........you think thats the right move?

 

if the Jets win 1 or 2 more games with Revis in 2013 I'm good with that. The Jets are not a long term T bill you can put in a drawer and forget about 

 

most of the folks on this site watch every minute of Jets football every year. Why?  to be entertained and when the team is absolutely atrocious bad it's a painful thing to watch every minute. every win is great even the gutless wins that 'cost draft position' like vs KC many Herm's ago. 

 

So yes even tho it sounds dumb you never know and I'd rather they keep the possible HOF'er and win some damn games.  

 

it's better than liquidation and showing the league how much you'll bend over to trade the team's best player. How embarrassing to take a 2014 1st or "whatever" for Darrelle Revis. 


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

Yeah, they'll do their magic secret free agent calculations based on the free agents the Jets lose and sign in 2014, then award the appropriate comp picks the following year.

 

The most that I've been able to discern over the years, is that it's a combination of booze and the lottery ball machine.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:05 PM

if the Jets win 1 or 2 more games with Revis in 2013 I'm good with that. The Jets are not a long term T bill you can put in a drawer and forget about 

 

most of the folks on this site watch every minute of Jets football every year. Why?  to be entertained and when the team is absolutely atrocious bad it's a painful thing to watch every minute. every win is great even the gutless wins that 'cost draft position' like vs KC many Herm's ago. 

 

So yes even tho it sounds dumb you never know and I'd rather they keep the possible HOF'er and win some damn games.  

 

it's better than liquidation and showing the league how much you'll bend over to trade the team's best player. How embarrassing to take a 2014 1st or "whatever" for Darrelle Revis. 

When the team goes 7-9 and he walks for nothing, I doubt you'll be wanting to own this post.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

This is by far the DUMBEST of all the Revis *breaking news* so far this off-season.

 

If the price for Revis wasn't too high and has been all along, don't you think Revis would be a Buc right now? LOL

 

The lowest price possible is set, now I'd be the Jets are leaking this to make it clear to other teams that are likely watching closely what they need to come up with to jump in at teh last minute and steal Revis. 


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:52 PM

if they don't get a good deal the right move is to keep him. 

I think every one would like to see Revis on the jets for the next five years at a reasonable price.  It’s a moot point though.  Woody isn’t going to pay him.


IMO if Revis limped into Woody’s office tomorrow and said he will sign a 5 year 50 million, with 30 million guaranteed in the first two years, Woody wouldn’t sign him.  He doesn’t trust that Revis won’t cause problems after two years if the market is up again for CB’s, and he is still “Revis”


If Tampa says “screw it” and takes a CB at 13.  The Jets are screwed.  No that CB won’t be Revis, but Tampa can buy him next year.  Without giving up any draft picks. They will also know next year if he is going to be Revis again.  Which isn’t a given.

 

At this point a good deal is what the market will bear


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:34 PM

We recently placed the trade talks on hold, so this actually works out.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:36 PM

No sh*t. Keep Revis.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

This is by far the DUMBEST of all the Revis *breaking news* so far this off-season.

 

If the price for Revis wasn't too high and has been all along, don't you think Revis would be a Buc right now? LOL

 

The lowest price possible is set, now I'd be the Jets are leaking this to make it clear to other teams that are likely watching closely what they need to come up with to jump in at teh last minute and steal Revis. 

 

 

Exactly.  No new events or information whatsoever.  More jibber jabber.  I cannot wait for the draft to come so all this nonsense can just fade into the sunset.


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