neckdemon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000162250/article/san-francisco-49ers-eager-to-trade-up-in-2013-nfl-draft i dont have time to look at the value chart but could we nab a 2014 number 1 to trade down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php If they were interested in trading up the #13, they probably will need to do: NYJ #13 and 1st in 2013 for SF #31 in 2013 and 1st in 2014 at the very minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000162250/article/san-francisco-49ers-eager-to-trade-up-in-2013-nfl-draft i dont have time to look at the value chart but could we nab a 2014 number 1 to trade down? I think the idea is that the 49ers have more picks this year than they have room for, so bundling a few of them to move up for a potential impact player makes sense. So I don't think any 2014 picks would be in play with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'd rather have Austin than the number 30 or so pick next year. From what I understand we have a bunch of them. If we MUST trade with them, the Niners have like 11 picks this year, send some of them our way if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 suppousedly if everything works out with comp picks we are gonna have a sh*tload of cap space and a lot of picks next year. So id rather just get 2 immediette starters with the 9 and 13 this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I think the idea is that the 49ers have more picks this year than they have room for, so bundling a few of them to move up for a potential impact player makes sense. So I don't think any 2014 picks would be in play with them. They're nervous about not re-signing Justin Smith to superdollars after this year and want to get his replacement a year before he leaves rather than forcing the position in round 1 of next year's draft even if the value isn't there. They must be cheap. They don't have a single $10M/year player & I don't even know that they have a single $8M/year player. Cheap! Cheap! Cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The '9ers have the #31 and #34 picks in this year's draft. If you look at this draft chart, the value of #31 and #34 add up almost exactly to the value of #13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I would love to see them trade down on at least one of the picks. If nothing else, the trade made this week so much more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The '9ers have the #31 and #34 picks in this year's draft. If you look at this draft chart, the value of #31 and #34 add up almost exactly to the value of #13. But that would mean we got a #1 and a #2 and a #3 for Revis. Or if we traded SF's high #2 for a #1 next year then it would be two #1's and a #3 for Revis. Gee, you mean the #13 pick has more value than the #26 pick even though they're both 1st round picks? I'm not buying it. Jets suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I would take their 31st and 34th. This draft may not have star value type players but it is a deep draft with some good talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 also heard the Falcons could trade up for Sheldon Richardson... also in that teens area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The '9ers have the #31 and #34 picks in this year's draft. If you look at this draft chart, the value of #31 and #34 add up almost exactly to the value of #13. Bingo. I'd be happy with 9, 31, 34 and 39. I'd be even happier with Mingo/Jones, Austin and 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Getting a late first (#31) and the very early second (#34) would feel like trading for two second round picks. Let them move up to #9 and get a third rounder in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 But that would mean we got a #1 and a #2 and a #3 for Revis. Or if we traded SF's high #2 for a #1 next year then it would be two #1's and a #3 for Revis. Gee, you mean the #13 pick has more value than the #26 pick even though they're both 1st round picks? I'm not buying it. Jets suck. That can't be true. I better go double check the internets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Minnesota's also rumored to want to move up. Coincidentally, their #23 and #52 also add up nicely to about the value of #13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I don't know jack about the draft. You guys are the experts. But I think having 4 picks that early gives us a better chance to overcome our historical bust ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 the trade down seems likely from 13. Besides the holes on the team, I think it was slats who said that trading down from 13 lessens the "replacement" aspect of that pick. I.e. Imagine the Jets take Tyler Eifert at 13. That player will forever be known as the guy they got for Revis. but the trade down muddys the waters. as for what it would take, the 49ers have picks 31 and 34 that is almost an even swap with Jets 13 according to the chart jets 13 1150 49ers 31 600 49ers 34 560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcoles87 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 In this draft, and considering we still have the #9 to work with, I'd trade 13 for 31 and 34 in a heartbeat. 9, 31, 34, 39-- Mingo, Cyprian, Nassib, Ertz Cooper, Lemonier, Reid, Woods Star, Patterson, Elam, Collins Wishfull thinking... 9 - Jordan, 31 - Eiffert, 34 - Cyprian, 39 - Nassib, Warford in 3rd, Christine Michael in 4th, TJ McDonald in 5th, Mike Catapano in 6th, Some WR in 7th Oh yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php If they were interested in trading up the #13, they probably will need to do: NYJ #13 and 1st in 2013 for SF #31 in 2013 and 1st in 2014 at the very minimum A 1st in 2014 doesn't mean much today for the Jets. It has to be their 31st, their 2nd this year, and their first next year. Maybe Im greedy? But we are giving away 1150 points and getting just 600 draft value points this year. Not sure what the chart of comparing points from this year to future year is, but the general rule is, a 1st next year is about equivalent to a 2nd this year. So a 1st, a 2nd, and 1st next year comes to about 1200 (600+300+300). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The 31st and 34th is equal value. Call me greedy but if I'm the Jets I want slightly more than equal value. Like acquiring a 5th or swapping a late 4th for an early 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The '9ers have the #31 and #34 picks in this year's draft. If you look at this draft chart, the value of #31 and #34 add up almost exactly to the value of #13. I like this, and maybe get one of their 3rds for a 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The '9ers have the #31 and #34 picks in this year's draft. If you look at this draft chart, the value of #31 and #34 add up almost exactly to the value of #13. I so want the Jets to make this move now and take Eifert at 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcoles87 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The 31st and 34th is equal value. Call me greedy but if I'm the Jets I want slightly more than equal value. Like acquiring a 5th or swapping a late 4th for an early 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcoles87 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 That would be nice but if you look at the trades from last year most of the teams moving back got less than the chart value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I so want the Jets to make this move now and take Eifert at 34. forget it he will be gone like 10-20 slots earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 forget it he will be gone like 10-20 slots earlier. Then I want him at 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Then I want him at 13. Eifert's a safe pick, but he'll never be an elite tight end. The bust factor is small, but he's never going to be an explosive playmaker either. I wouldnt hate the pick, 13 just seems too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Eifert's a safe pick, but he'll never be an elite tight end. The bust factor is small, but he's never going to be an explosive playmaker either. I wouldnt hate the pick, 13 just seems too early. Matt39 doesn't like the pick - Eifert at 13 it is!!!! This draftin' crap is easy yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 But that would mean we got a #1 and a #2 and a #3 for Revis. Or if we traded SF's high #2 for a #1 next year then it would be two #1's and a #3 for Revis. Gee, you mean the #13 pick has more value than the #26 pick even though they're both 1st round picks? I'm not buying it. Jets suck. I know you are being facetious, but it is amazing how many people don't get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I know you are being facetious, but it is amazing how many people don't get this. It really is baffling. When you somehow have the likes of you, me and Pac (and obviously plenty more, but I think you get my point here) all on the same side of an argument, it really starts to speak volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Trading down, and collecting more picks is where it's at, I think there will be a few teams temping the Jets for 13. Hopefully work some Team over for "Their guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Matt39 doesn't like the pick - Eifert at 13 it is!!!! This draftin' crap is easy yo! ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The 31st and 34th is equal value. Call me greedy but if I'm the Jets I want slightly more than equal value. Like acquiring a 5th or swapping a late 4th for an early 6th. With so many teams looking to trade down this year, the team trading down will likely get lesser value. If we miss out on Eifert, #39 seems like a good spot to grab Ertz from Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Eifert's a safe pick, but he'll never be an elite tight end. The bust factor is small, but he's never going to be an explosive playmaker either. I wouldnt hate the pick, 13 just seems too early. Agreed 100%. Historically, TE's in general that are selected in the first round, dont live up to that value. Jermaine Gresham, Brandon Pettigrew, Dustin Keller, Greg Olson, Vernon Davis, Mercedes Lewis, Heather Miller, Kellen Winslow, Ben Watson, Dallas Clark, Jeremy Shockey, Daniel Graham, Jeremay Stevens, Todd Heap, Bubba Franks, Anthony Bect, Tony G, David LaFluer, Ricky Dudley, Kyle Brady, Mark Bruener, Ivry Smith, Derek Brow, Johnny Mitchel, Eric Green. Those are the 1st round selected TE's since 1990. What, maybe 2-3 were worthy of a 1st round selection? And the difference between Eifert and Ertz is minimal IMO. I love both in the 2nd. Not a big fan of either in the 1st. And, I wouldnt be upset at all if we just waited and took the best of Kelce, Escobar, McDonald, Reed, etc. Who might not be Eifert or Ertz but solid TE's nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Then I want him at 13. lately me too. Jets get Austin at 9, Eifert at 13 and declare the offense open for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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