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Awesome. I was hoping for this guy or Brandon Moore if we didn't get an OG in the first 2 rounds. I'm guessing this offer has been on the table for a while, just needed an to see how this fell.

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Geno better get used to scrambling -- Peterman has to be the worst pass blocking guard in the league.

 

You are right. He was inconsistent last season. But it wouldnt be the first time we picked up a Detroit lineman and he played better for us, then them.

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You are right. He was inconsistent last season. But it wouldnt be the first time we picked up a Detroit lineman and he played better for us, then them.

 

 

He isn't just inconsistent, he is truly awful.  The Lions were an open gate up the middle and Peterman was the main reason.  You could not find a worse pass blocker if you tried.

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Geno better get used to scrambling -- Peterman has to be the worst pass blocking guard in the league.

 

Never heard of the guy, but damn, I didn't want to read this. 

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Never heard of the guy, but damn, I didn't want to read this. 

 

Given the last draft pick, it would seem to be a depth signing more than anything.  They'll let these guys fight it out and may the best men win, so hopefully that alone will address any potential issues.

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He isn't just inconsistent, he is truly awful.  The Lions were an open gate up the middle and Peterman was the main reason.  You could not find a worse pass blocker if you tried.

 

I find it hard to believe that he is any worse than Vladimir Ducasse

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I find it hard to believe that he is any worse than Vladimir Ducasse

 

Go look up his stats.  He is quantifiably bad.  The Lions were very, very happy to cut him loose.  I guess they want Stafford to remain intact.

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He isn't just inconsistent, he is truly awful. The Lions were an open gate up the middle and Peterman was the main reason. You could not find a worse pass blocker if you tried.

So no matter how bad the QBs are it will be all this guys fault.

And so it begins...again.

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So no matter how bad the QBs are it will be all this guys fault.

And so it begins...again.

 

 

Who said that?  The guy stinks as a pass blocker and they will have to work around that fact.  The QB's have plenty of opportunity to stink it up on their own.

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Who said that? The guy stinks as a pass blocker and they will have to work around that fact. The QB's have plenty of opportunity to stink it up on their own.

It will be said. :)

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Does this loop have any end ? lol

 

Hopefully it ends with Geno, or the next guy, or the next guy, or the next guy, or the... :)

Edited by JADEDGREEN

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I still have to figure Winters & Colon are starting opening day.  But at least Winters isn't being handed the job.  Ducasse is no competition, but Peterman started for 6 years.  Let Winters beat him out before he starts.

 

And if that happens - which we all want - then I'm sure we could do with a worse backup than a guy with 6 years starting experience.

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I watched him play on Thanksgiving day against J.J. Watt and Peterman ate his lunch!! I like it and i'm sure he is not the worst pass blocker. C'monman!!

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why is everyone saying winters is gonna start day 1?

 

i thought the scouting reports said hes gonna have a touch transition to the pros for the first couple years

 

I think he'll compete for day one, but if he isn't starting within 2 years then something probably went wrong.  I say it's more likely than not that he's our starting RG by week 1.  

 

Best case scenario is for Vlad to put it all together and be our starting LG, but that's just not going to happen.  Hopefully Campbell transitions back to the Oline quickly and we have our 2014 oline already set.  And if Oday hits the weightroom and maximizes his potential, we either have our future starting RT if Austin fizzles or a fantastic swing-tackle insurance encase of injury.  

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The Jets drafted three guards who didn't play guard in college. Good signing. 

 

I have a feeling they're only going to kick winters and campbell inside and keep Oday as a swing-tackle, either as our future RT encase Austin doesn't pan out or just for injury.  Word is that they grabbed him, like others, because the value of him was so high.  I could be wrong, but I don't think they're gonna be moving him to guard.

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Did Peterman just have a bad year pass blocking in 2012 or was last season the beginning of the end of his career? 

 

In 2011 he was one of the league's better pass protectors, allowing pass pressure (not sacks; just merely allowing pressure) on a puny 0.96% of snaps. Compared favorably to some guards we associate with being far better (1.50% Mankins, 1.04% Iupati, Jahri Evans 2.28%). http://thedctimes.com/2012/02/top-20-nfl-offensive-guards-using-advanced-stats-to-rank-best-ogs/

 

There's another chart from PFF outlining the top 15 pass protecting guards from 2009-2011.  Peterman came in at #13, just ahead of Ben Grubbs and Jahri Evans.  Brandon Moore was #1.


Take either one of these stats-geek sites for what they're worth.  They probably have some merit, but the extent to their true value is anyone's guess.  Some things you just have to see with your eyes, and I think it's safe to say none of us watched Stephen Peterman for 16 games, focusing strictly on his RT position and ignoring the rest of the action on the field.

 

He supposedly allowed 36 pressures last year (pretty awful, and worst in the league), though it should be noted Detroit had Stafford drop back to pass over 750 times.  13 of his 36 pressures (which PFF includes sacks, hits, and hurries) occurred in 2 games, leaving a far less horrible 23 in the other 14 games.  It would seem they were two brutal games where every Detroit Lions fan wanted Peterman drawn and quartered.  32 of the 36 would seem to be just pressures as well, as he only allowed Stafford to get hit on 4 of the 756 pass attempts.

 

Lions GM did release him because he felt there was too much interior pressure on Stafford, and Peterman was #1 on his blame list.  I don't know much about Detroit's playcalling (or how much to factor it in).  But when you run the ball only 391 times in about 1200 plays, which is undoubtedly the most lopsided pass:run ratio in NFL history, it's safe to say there is at least some element of predictability to the playcalling.  Defenses seemed to have adjusted accordingly.

 

We either got a generally solid guy who had a bad season for his team who did nothing but pass all year, or we got a guy who was once pretty solid and now stinks.  Seems a worthwhile risk on a 1 year contract that's probably pretty cheap. 

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 But when you run the ball only 391 times in about 1200 plays, which is undoubtedly the most lopsided pass:run ratio in NFL history, it's safe to say there is at least some element of predictability to the playcalling.  Defenses seemed to have adjusted accordingly.

 

One problem with that seems to a ratio that our new OC doesn't have a problem with.  This guy can't be loving our draft.  

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