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#1 Jacked4JetsFB

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:37 AM

we cannot be the Seahawks of this year or better.

 

Smith > Wilson & Rex >>>>>> Carrol

 

I think we are going to surprise a lot of people this year.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

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It'll be interesting to see how your optimism stands up to the collective force of negativity here at JN. I'm rooting for you! :)
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:49 AM

I support this.  Idzik is doing everything to emulate what the Seahawks have been doing the last few years personnel-wise.  Build up the talent in the trenches, get a nasty, run through you kind of running back in there, an exciting QB, and let the coaching do the rest.  And I for one think Rex Ryan is a better coach than Pete Carroll. 

 

We've seen teams make the 1-year turnaround before in the NFL.  We saw these very Jets do it in 2009.  If Geno gets his shot this year and he is the goods (and he doesn't have to be Russell Wilson good either, let's not heap those expectations on him), watch out NFL. 


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:05 AM

The Jets are probably a playoff team if they can generate league average offense.  With the 4 headed running back attack, we should be improved there.  The passing game will be counting on better QB play, the addition of Santonio Holmes and an actual offensive scheme.  If we can run the ball with more explosive backs behind a line that may be better at run blocking with the guys they have brought in, we may see an offense that can score 20 points.  I like what we have done, but we still have upgrades needed in the passing game.  Hopefully Geno or Garrard are able to play this year and provide some improved QB play.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:34 AM

we cannot be the Seahawks of this year or better.

 

Smith > Wilson & Rex >>>>>> Carrol

 

I think we are going to surprise a lot of people this year.

 

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:43 AM

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:47 AM

If Mark is the QB -not a chnace for a complete turnaround


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:01 AM

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:05 AM

It really depends on Geno. Yeah if he’s Russell Wilson we could be a playoff team right away, but the chances of that are very slim. It’s easier for rookie’s to be successful right away but the talk at the minute seems to be that we’re sticking through Sanchez’s horrible contract for now, and I have a horrible feeling that if he’s in camp competing, then he’ll be the starter come week 1. If we go into the season with Sanchez starting then I’m going to see this season for what it will be – A trainwreck. Well for Sanchez at least, there will be the hope of Geno coming in and redeeming the season some what later on after Sanchez inevitably gets destroyed. I had hopes for Sanchez entering last season, but I’ve all but given up on him now. He’s broken, I don’t even think he’d function in that 2010 team anymore.

 

Pretty much the first Jets season I’ve entered devoid of any real optimism in terms of playoff hopes which is why I’m glad we drafted Geno, as it gives me something else to be optimistic about. I’m also pretty concerned about our special teams, something no one seems to mention on here. That group was less than stellar last season, actually cost us some games and now losing Westhoff means that period of dominance in that area is probably all but gone. Rex’s D will be set though, very excited to see that unit. 


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:11 AM

we cannot be the Seahawks of this year or better.

 

Smith > Wilson & Rex >>>>>> Carrol

 

I think we are going to surprise a lot of people this year.

 

I agree that we'll surprise a lot of people this year, and support the general idea of this post... but not the juvenile logic about Smith and Rex >>> Wilson and Carrol.

 

It's more about the whole team, than those 2.

 

Anyway, positivity, yup1!!!! 


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:21 AM

I will never worry about a Rex Ryan defense.  Ever.

 

But the man needs to at least build enough offense that his D can play 4 quarters.  If we finally can move the chains, we're playoff bound.  The 4th play of game 1 will tell me a lot.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:27 AM

I will never worry about a Rex Ryan defense.  Ever.

 

But the man needs to at least build enough offense that his D can play 4 quarters.  If we finally can move the chains, we're playoff bound.  The 4th play of game 1 will tell me a lot.

 

What if it's a really, really, really good punt?


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:35 AM

I will never worry about a Rex Ryan defense.  Ever.

 

But the man needs to at least build enough offense that his D can play 4 quarters.  If we finally can move the chains, we're playoff bound.  The 4th play of game 1 will tell me a lot.

 

 

I'll never set my expectations for the season based on game 1 again, not under Rex. His teams, if I recall, come out and put a thumping on the Bills last year, the Texans in Sanchez's first game ever, and without checking I believe had impressive debuts the other 2 seasons in between.

 

Game 1 is not a barometer for what Rex has his hands on. Game 6 is about when we know what kind of team he's really putting on the field.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:43 AM

I'll never set my expectations for the season based on game 1 again, not under Rex. His teams, if I recall, come out and put a thumping on the Bills last year, the Texans in Sanchez's first game ever, and without checking I believe had impressive debuts the other 2 seasons in between.

 

Game 1 is not a barometer for what Rex has his hands on. Game 6 is about when we know what kind of team he's really putting on the field.

I certainly agree with you.  My point was mostly rhetorical  -- we have to move the chains so our awesome D will still be that awesome in the 4th.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:45 AM

What if it's a really, really, really good punt?

:)    I'd worry more about a pick.

That said, a team should be good enough that their punter stinks and nobody ever finds out.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:46 AM

I'll never set my expectations for the season based on game 1 again, not under Rex. His teams, if I recall, come out and put a thumping on the Bills last year, the Texans in Sanchez's first game ever, and without checking I believe had impressive debuts the other 2 seasons in between.

 

Game 1 is not a barometer for what Rex has his hands on. Game 6 is about when we know what kind of team he's really putting on the field.

 

 

His only opening day loss was to Baltimore, ironically, the best season he's had as HC.

 

They barely pulled one out vs. the Cowboys 2 years ago with the Revis INT to put them in FG range.

 

Agreed with your point.  This season is all about seeing steady improvement as the season goes on, IMO.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:48 AM

remember when the Dolphins went 1-15 and then beat our ass out of the playoffs the next year!??  

 

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:48 AM

I'll never set my expectations for the season based on game 1 again, not under Rex. His teams, if I recall, come out and put a thumping on the Bills last year, the Texans in Sanchez's first game ever, and without checking I believe had impressive debuts the other 2 seasons in between.

 

Game 1 is not a barometer for what Rex has his hands on. Game 6 is about when we know what kind of team he's really putting on the field.

 

Sad but true.  If only Rex's Jets had 9 months to prepare for every game, they'd be unstoppable.

 

Strangely enough, the Jets worst opener under Rex by far (vs Baltimore in 2010) was the start of their best season with him.  Of course they did make up for that the next week vs NE.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:51 AM

:)    I'd worry more about a pick.

That said, a team should be good enough that their punter stinks and nobody ever finds out.

 

Exactly, which is why I figured it'd have to be considered a triumph for the Jets to manage to go a whole 3 plays without a turnover.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:00 AM

if there is a reason why they can't it's the WR/TE corp. the 2012 Seahawks had Sidney Rice, Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate with Zach Miller at TE. the 2013 Jets have a gimpy Santonio Holmes, Stephen Hill and Jeremy Kerley with Jeff Cumberland at TE. It's a huge step down. 


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:02 AM

Playoffs ?

 

We have weaknesses at Safety and LB and a rookie at CB. Without even mentioning our inept offense the main reason we were able to sneak into the playoffs the first 2 years of Rex was due to a gift wrapped Colts game and the second time we lost 3 of our last 5 games some in blowout fashion and got in. This defense is not close to comparing to that defense in any way other than the DL and people are calling for playoffs ? Who is playing TE ? If the abomination that Sanchez was last year shows up again, this team will be very lucky to win 5 games. And yes, at Sanchez;' salary, he probably will be starting


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:09 AM

if there is a reason why they can't it's the WR/TE corp. the 2012 Seahawks had Sidney Rice, Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate with Zach Miller at TE. the 2013 Jets have a gimpy Santonio Holmes, Stephen Hill and Jeremy Kerley with Jeff Cumberland at TE. It's a huge step down. 

 

Meh, same exact skills players they had in 2011.  In 2012, their leading receiver had 50 receptions.  They threw for 3,000 yards.  I dont think their weaponz had anything to do with it.  

 

They found a QB.  Thats it.  Thats all.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:12 AM

Rex is a buffoon

 

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:13 AM

Meh, same exact skills players they had in 2011.  In 2012, their leading receiver had 50 receptions.  They threw for 3,000 yards.  I dont think their weaponz had anything to do with it.  

 

They found a QB.  Thats it.  Thats all.

 

It's entirely possible Santonio never plays again. then they have Hill, kerley and ??? 


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:15 AM

Meh, same exact skills players they had in 2011.  In 2012, their leading receiver had 50 receptions.  They threw for 3,000 yards.  I dont think their weaponz had anything to do with it.  

 

They found a QB.  Thats it.  Thats all.

 

I just don't understand all the belly-aching about not having enough "playmakers".

 

A true WCO doesn't require there being a stud WR on the team, the ball gets spread around to 8+ receiving options each week. 

 

As long as we have a QB who can deliver the throws, minimize turnovers, then we're looking at an offense where none of our WRs might go over 60 catches, but we'll still move the chains and score points. Especially if our running game pops off, which I full expect.


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