Cromartie (caught a sh*tload of picks his first season starting with SD and had been pretty ordinary ever since. Until Ryan got a hold of him; now he's one of the NFL's few shutdown corners and he even tackles now)
Jets HC 2009-2013 (most of these guys will get their first extended action in 2013):
Other noteworthy who were here before Rex arrived:
- Pouha (didn't start - or do much of anything - until Rex got here)
- DeVito (same thing)
- Cromartie (caught a sh*tload of picks his first season starting with SD and had been pretty ordinary ever since. Until Ryan got a hold of him; now he's one of the NFL's few shutdown corners and he even tackles now)
- Revis (I'm sure he was going to be great anyway, but it's convenient to say he was going to be every bit as great in Ryan's absence. Went from mere 1x pro bowler who wasn't even 2nd-team all-pro under Mangini to perennial first team all-pro, arguably the game's best defender at any position, and likely HOFer under Ryan)
Ravens DL coach 1999-2004, DC 2005-2008:
- Ngata (round 1)
- Johnson (round 4)
- Scott (undrafted)
- Leonhard (undrafted)
- AdaliusThomas (round 6)
- Dawan Landry (round 5)
- Kemoeatu (undrafted; turned into a beast under Rex, parlayed that into a giant contract from Carolina, and was mediocre without Rex)
- Will Demps (undrafted; started for half a decade)
- Marques Douglas (undrafted then cut by NO; Rex turned him into a starter also)
- Anthony Weaver (round 2)
- Kelly Gregg (6th rounder cut by 2 teams, picked up off the street and developed into Baltimore's starting NT for almost a decade)
He's nowhere near perfect, and may very well be fired after this season, but the guy knows defense, is big on teaching technique and has coached up nothing and lower-talent players to be good and good players to be great. If any offensive players developed really well here it would be incidental, as I doubt he played a major part in it beyond personal encouragement.
First of all do you really think Rex had a say with the Ravens ? That team was full of hall of famers when Rex moved into his positions as DL/DC . Ozzie made those picks not Rex. Theres a reason the Ravens did not make Rex the HC and brougt in John Harbaugh. because harbaugh has a brain and knows how to MANAGE a fiitball team Rex has no clue. So while he may be a good DC and DL coach he lacks the Brains for what we need him for and thats to be the head coach of the WHOLE football team, not half of it or one thrid of it.
When it comes to Cromartie saying he tackles now is laughable. Ive seen him make a few hits last year on players in compromising positions in relation to him but if a RB is heading towards Cro with a full head of steam dont expect much at all. He will either crumble or avoid the contact any way he can. A few hits does not make a tackler ... Revis was a tackler, Cro will never be one . You also listed Cromartie as being here when Rex arrived and he was not.
Rex came to the Jets and we had Above average talent here. He also brought Leonhard, Douglas and Scott to help on every tier of the defense. Every year the defense has started to drop off and they have never stepped up in a big moment. They put up the stats but many times can't shut games down or get off the field on 3rd down. They are certainly NOT the Ravens by any stretch not even close.
You bring up the draft picks and say that the Jets have only drafted 2 defensive players per the last few years but those picks happen to be 4 defensive lineman in rounds 1 and 2 the past 4 years while impact skill players go undrafted on this team until the 4th + rounds. Only one that comes to mind is Stephen Hill in round 2 last year. Im certain Rex has little input on offensive moves since the Idiot constantly proclaims his ignorance on that side of the ball. The only good skill player added to this team in yearrrrrs is Jeremy Kerley and hes a nice player but hes not turning the league upside down either.
Most teams that make it to, or have the talent to compete in the AFCCG should never drop off as fast as we did. After years 1 and 2 this team was a few skill players away from getting to a SB .... Who did we bring in ?
Year 2 -- Santonio Holmes - Pitt thought so much of him they basically dumped him for a 5th rounder --- Known Loudmouth
Year 3 -- Plaxico Burress - Fresh out of jail and 34 years old -- Jets do not re sign nor does anyone else --- Known Loudmouth
Year 3 -- Derrick Mason - Loud mouth trouble maker 38 years old who Rex claimed would have 90 receptions yet he was released in week 4 --- Known Loudmouth
Year 3 -- Did not Sign Braylon Edwards --- Who was certainly trouble off the field but did have a good on the field relationship with our young QB. Certainly was not shooting himself in the leg at a night club.
Lets use the Ravens as an example ...this team has been close for many years. They know they have a good defense so they set their sights on improving the offense and the skill players on that side of the ball. They actully tried until they hit it and won the SB the key to that SB and probably the most important move was bringing in Anquan Boldin who played lights out in the playoffs and they won it all. Boldin is a damn good WR and a good lockerroom guy ... The Ravens also did a great job handling Joe Flacco getting him Ray Rice and other Skill players on offense to help his growth as a QB.
The Jets in a similar situation with a very good defense and a few offensive players away from truly contending for a SB bring in IDIOTS and HAS BEENS and expect the same results and Its been laughable for the past 4 years and everyone seems to get this. Its the real reason we have the clown label.
Bottom Line --- The Ravens did it right ....The Jets did it wrong under Rex Ryans so called watch. They continue to do it wrong.
This team needs LB's and Safeties to which are the biggest holes on our defense so Rex Drafts yet another DT in this years draft ??????????? Dumps Revis (understandable to some extent) and Signs a rookie with Imnjury Problems and 5 surgeries in the past 3 years ??????? Im OK with Geno Smith and I hope he can really make a difference but who the **** is he throwing the ball too ? Certainly its about time we got some explosive RB's but neither one has shown the durability to make us rest easy .
I think Idzik stayed true to his board so I wont push to hard aganist the Richardson pick and he deserves the benifit of the doubt at least until year 3. But Im concerned about how our defense is being built and how our offense has been neglected, are we oncourse to ruin another QB ?