Jump to content

  •  

Welcome to JetNation.com


Sign In  Log in with Facebook Log in with Twitter

Create Account
Welcome to JetNation.com, your home for New York Jets talk. We are an independent site, which means we aren't affiliated with the NY Jets or SNY. The opinions here are never censored. We want you to join in on the conversation, but don't worry this is a simple and FREE process. Be apart of JetNation.com by signing in or creating an account. When you create an account, you can also opt to use your existing Facebook or Twitter login.
  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get email updates
  • Get your own profile page and make new friends
  • Send personal messages to other members.
Also be sure to check us out on Facebook and Twitter.
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

Namath Thinks Jets Wasted a Draft Pick on Geno Smith


  • Please log in to reply
134 replies to this topic

#1 flgreen

flgreen

    3rd Year Veteran

  • Members
  • 17,509 posts

Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:32 PM


Joe Namath says NY Jets wasted a draft pick on quarterback Geno Smith

To Namath, the Jets already had a quality quarterback in embattled starter Mark Sanchez and would've been better off filling other positions.
Comments (1)
By Ebenezer Samuel  / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Tuesday, May 21, 2013, 8:43 PM.
 

 

 


Jets' Sanchez brings a little Namath back to NY.
Myers: Namath's talk right on the Mark.


Namath: Mark it down!.


Quarterback competition between Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith could be over before training camp: Marty Mornhinweg .
.

Joe Namath calls Gang Green’s prized rookie QB Geno Smith a “sensational athlete” with “good size.” And Namath also thinks drafting Smith was unnecessary. “No, I don’t think they needed a quarterback,” Namath said at the United Way’s 20th annual Gridiron Gala at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel on Tuesday. “They needed the other positions filled. Possibly offensive line. They got some defensive line. The safeties are still questionable. The outside linebackers are still questionable.”

To Namath, the Jets already had a quality quarterback in embattled starter Mark Sanchez. Sanchez has struggled in the last two seasons. But Namath attributed that to “distractions.”

 

“I am pulling for him,” Namath said of Sanchez. “I know that he can do better than he’s done. And we saw him lead a team to two AFC championship games, right? I also know what it’s like not to necessarily have the weapons you’d like to have, not to necessarily have the time you’d like to accomplish.”

 

Mark Sanchez (r.) has a major ally in Joe Namath.


Al Pereira/Getty Images

 

Mark Sanchez (r.) has a major ally in Joe Namath.

 

Namath said just a handful of Jets got a “passing grade” last season, naming linemen D’Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold and safeties Yeremiah Bell and LaRon Landry as players who did play up to expectations. The others, he seemed to say, didn’t help Sanchez last year. But Namath expects Sanchez to help himself, whether he does so as a Jet, or in another NFL uniform.

 

“I know it’s a team game and I know Sanchez is going to play better,” Namath added. “I promise you you’ll see a different guy (this year). I believe you’ll see a different guy.

 

“Mark’s not a puppy anymore,” he added. “He’s gone through some things, growing process. As far as Sanchez goes, even if he’s not with the Jets, he’s going to play as long as he wants to. He’s that good. As long as he wants to, he’s going to be in the NFL.”


Read more: http://www.nydailyne...1#ixzz2Tzb6vdcj


  • 0

#2 jetsjetsjetss

jetsjetsjetss

    3rd Year Veteran

  • Members
  • 2,666 posts

Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:52 PM

if he sucked that much because of distractions hes not a quality qb

 

gfy namath


  • 2

#3 pointman

pointman

    sandwiches are good.

  • Members
  • 6,718 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:29 AM

lol. Namath is so drunk that he thinks Sanchez is "Quality". I guess the answers aren't at the bottom of a whiskey bottle. 


  • 0

#4 spjets

spjets

    NFL Alumni

  • Members
  • 6,352 posts
  • Locationiron station NC

Posted 22 May 2013 - 04:54 AM

I love Namath but he needs to shut up now...
  • 2

#5 The Crusher

The Crusher

    JiF is all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble

  • Moderators
  • 30,004 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:37 AM

if he sucked that much because of distractions hes not a quality qb
 
gfy namath

 
 

lol. Namath is so drunk that he thinks Sanchez is "Quality". I guess the answers aren't at the bottom of a whiskey bottle.

 
 

I love Namath but he needs to shut up now...

The disdain for Namath brings sad to me. Joe loves the Jets that is all he is guilty of. Obviously he is coming from the view point that Geno will not be ready to start this year. He may have noticed between naps that we lost the veteran place holder. Truth is like it or not, and I don't, Mark will probably start this year. Obviously not because he's a 'quality" anything but because we realistically only have a very raw rookie who is currently learning how to take snaps under center.

So... What does the Jet loving Namath do? If he comes out and bashes Sanchez, he is pretty much bashing the Jets. He did a good bit of that last year for sure. Well deserved by the organization if you ask me. Unlike people on this message board Joe's opinion is read and taken in. He probably feels it's best for Sanchez to have someone in his corner. Con sidering even thru his cataracts he has seen all the Sanchez bashing in the media along with the Butt fumble video over and over and over again.

In my opinion Joe is trying to give Mark some support because it's a new season and he most likely be leading the team Joe loves. If Joe is guilty of anything at this time it's being a green glasses (reading glasses) wearing homer drinking the green Kool Aid mixed with some Makers Mark. I have tried this, it's good.

The guy loves the Jets and probably wants to see them win another Superbowl before he dies as much as anyone. Considering he's probably closer than most of us Im sure his judgement is not the best.

Please try not to be to hard on the old fella. He is still the best Jet we have ever had. Thankyou for your time and I love every single one of you(JiF the most).
  • 1

#6 j4jets

j4jets

    Numbers guy!

  • Members
  • 1,188 posts
  • LocationDallas, TX

Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:40 AM

What a negative nancy!

Getting wasted every day isn't necessary either. He still does it. Seriously, it's time to stfu. He called out Mark a couple years ago as well and now he's switching sides?
  • 0

#7 NJ

NJ

    Almost Unwatchable

  • Members
  • 9,385 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:12 AM

I love Namath but he needs to shut up now...

Yes ... exactly ... damn him ... he's the one that sucked me into this in the first place .... but now he needs to shut up. 

And I hear what you're saying Crush ... but has anyone else that knows this game even a little come out and said Geno is 100% bad news and won't help the Jets even as a 2-3 year stop gap?


Edited by NJ, 22 May 2013 - 06:16 AM.

  • 0
NATION....... JETNATION

#8 pointman

pointman

    sandwiches are good.

  • Members
  • 6,718 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:40 AM

 
  
 The disdain for Namath brings sad to me. Joe loves the Jets that is all he is guilty of. Obviously he is coming from the view point that Geno will not be ready to start this year. He may have noticed between naps that we lost the veteran place holder. Truth is like it or not, and I don't, Mark will probably start this year. Obviously not because he's a 'quality" anything but because we realistically only have a very raw rookie who is currently learning how to take snaps under center.

So... What does the Jet loving Namath do? If he comes out and bashes Sanchez, he is pretty much bashing the Jets. He did a good bit of that last year for sure. Well deserved by the organization if you ask me. Unlike people on this message board Joe's opinion is read and taken in. He probably feels it's best for Sanchez to have someone in his corner. Con sidering even thru his cataracts he has seen all the Sanchez bashing in the media along with the Butt fumble video over and over and over again.

In my opinion Joe is trying to give Mark some support because it's a new season and he most likely be leading the team Joe loves. If Joe is guilty of anything at this time it's being a green glasses (reading glasses) wearing homer drinking the green Kool Aid mixed with some Makers Mark. I have tried this, it's good.

The guy loves the Jets and probably wants to see them win another Superbowl before he dies as much as anyone. Considering he's probably closer than most of us Im sure his judgement is not the best.

Please try not to be to hard on the old fella. He is still the best Jet we have ever had. Thankyou for your time and I love every single one of you(JiF the most).

Sometimes, sometimes... silence is the greatest thing on earth. And Mr. Namath, this (and every other day) would be one of those times. By criticizing, and inserting his usually less than stellar viewpoint on our beloved Jets, doesn't do anything but make outsiders say "see, even Namath thinks the Jets are a circus". 


  • 1

#9 slats

slats

    9 5/8" hands

  • Moderators
  • 19,992 posts
  • LocationAcross the Universe

Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:47 AM

First, as far as I know, Joe's been sober since shortly after the kissing Suzy Kobler incident.

Second, Geno might be a wasted pick. Not because the Jets don't need a QB -because they do- but because Geno may not be that guy. He slipped for a reason. If the Jets got the steal of the draft there, it's a great pick. If Geno isn't a capable starter, it's a terrible one. Not a lot of middle ground. Second rounders should be starting caliber players within their first two years in the league.
  • 4
back in my room
wish you were dead
you bawl like the baby
in Eraserhead

#10 SoFlaJets

SoFlaJets

    Sasquatch Hunter

  • Members
  • 34,511 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:47 AM

*
POPULAR

I know everybody keeps just saying it and all but the truth of the matter is this; Joe Namath is SOBER. I know it's funny and all to keep saying "STFU you drunk" and all but people who go through what Joe went through take it very seriously-life and death seriously and even though I pretty much disagree with EVERYTHING (including this one on Geno's drafting) that he's been saying about the Jets now for the last 5 years at least, I WILL defend him on his sobriety. So, to all of you guys who keep saying that he's a drunk and should just shut the f*ck up, you have no idea of what you are talking about and all of you should just STFU when it comes to Namath's sobriety


Edited by SoFlaJets, 22 May 2013 - 06:49 AM.

  • 8
 
 

#11 The Crusher

The Crusher

    JiF is all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble

  • Moderators
  • 30,004 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:00 AM

Sometimes, sometimes... silence is the greatest thing on earth. And Mr. Namath, this (and every other day) would be one of those times. By criticizing, and inserting his usually less than stellar viewpoint on our beloved Jets, doesn't do anything but make outsiders say "see, even Namath thinks the Jets are a circus".

First off nothing Joe could say will make anyone think worse or better about the Jets. We are going to be a goofball circus till we win again. "Winning cures all ills."
  • 0

#12 The Crusher

The Crusher

    JiF is all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble

  • Moderators
  • 30,004 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:01 AM

First, as far as I know, Joe's been sober since shortly after the kissing Suzy Kobler incident.

Second, Geno might be a wasted pick. Not because the Jets don't need a QB -because they do- but because Geno may not be that guy. He slipped for a reason. If the Jets got the steal of the draft there, it's a great pick. If Geno isn't a capable starter, it's a terrible one. Not a lot of middle ground. Second rounders should be starting caliber players within their first two years in the league.

That was my point. Joe realizes that and realizes to all our dismay Sanchez will probably be the starter. This is his way of getting behind the team. Too bad Joe is sober though. I was hoping to tie one on with him before he passed. I guess we can just enjoy some grub together.
  • 0

#13 The Crusher

The Crusher

    JiF is all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble

  • Moderators
  • 30,004 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:03 AM

I know everybody keeps just saying it and all but the truth of the matter is this; Joe Namath is SOBER. I know it's funny and all to keep saying "STFU you drunk" and all but people who go through what Joe went through take it very seriously-life and death seriously and even though I pretty much disagree with EVERYTHING (including this one on Geno's drafting) that he's been saying about the Jets now for the last 5 years at least, I WILL defend him on his sobriety. So, to all of you guys who keep saying that he's a drunk and should just shut the f*ck up, you have no idea of what you are talking about and all of you should just STFU when it comes to Namath's sobriety

Good post. Personally I respect his sobriety but I also adore the drunken womanizing Joe. That's why I named Baby Crusher after him. LOL
  • 0

#14 faba

faba

    Moderator

  • Moderators
  • 25,928 posts
  • LocationHolmdel

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:17 AM

Joe Willie- leave our icon alone with the bashing-if not for him we would not have anything to hang our dreams on.

Joe trying to put the bests pin on a terrible QB situation


  • 0
Treat people with how you want to be treated-with respect.

#15 The Crusher

The Crusher

    JiF is all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble

  • Moderators
  • 30,004 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

Joe Willie- leave our icon alone with the bashing-if not for him we would not have anything to hang our dreams on.
Joe trying to put the bests pin on a terrible QB situation

Exactly. In a race with only three legged dogs you have to pick a three legged dog.
  • 0

#16 Jetsfan80

Jetsfan80

    Hall Of Famer

  • Members
  • 47,028 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:34 AM

First, as far as I know, Joe's been sober since shortly after the kissing Suzy Kobler incident.

Second, Geno might be a wasted pick. Not because the Jets don't need a QB -because they do- but because Geno may not be that guy. He slipped for a reason. If the Jets got the steal of the draft there, it's a great pick. If Geno isn't a capable starter, it's a terrible one. Not a lot of middle ground. Second rounders should be starting caliber players within their first two years in the league.

 

Well if you're going to bust on a 2nd rounder, I'd strongly prefer busting on a QB when you desperately NEED a QB.  A couple months ago we thought we were set with Garrard-Sanchez-Tebow and waiting until 2014 to snag one in the draft.  Now 2 of those are gone.  I'd say drafting Geno is looking smarter by the day.

 

Namath is usually pretty spot-on when it comes to his critiques of the Jets, but I think he's dead wrong on this one.  Sanchez is a nobody and you just can't argue that drafting Geno where we did wasn't a good move.  Nothing but upside, and if we missed, at least it was on the 39th pick of the draft rather than a top 10 pick. 


Edited by Jetsfan80, 22 May 2013 - 07:38 AM.

  • 0

sheesh, I'm a doosh.


#17 Stonehands

Stonehands

    Jet Fan

  • Members
  • 2,959 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:42 AM

First, as far as I know, Joe's been sober since shortly after the kissing Suzy Kobler incident.

Second, Geno might be a wasted pick. Not because the Jets don't need a QB -because they do- but because Geno may not be that guy. He slipped for a reason. If the Jets got the steal of the draft there, it's a great pick. If Geno isn't a capable starter, it's a terrible one. Not a lot of middle ground. Second rounders should be starting caliber players within their first two years in the league.

 

It is easy to say that second rounders should be starters, but in every draft teams grab players that fall our of favor and drop into the second round and some hit and some miss.  With the Jets QB situation the most obvious weakness on the club, taking a high upside QB in the second round was a no brainer.  Whether he makes it big or busts, it was an excellent pick taking into account the talent of the player and the needs of the club.


  • 0

#18 Pac

Pac

    shark jumper

  • Members
  • 14,731 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:46 AM

This is what I've been trying to tell you all for awhile now...  Sanchez can and will play better this year but it may be too late for him in NY.


  • 1

#19 slats

slats

    9 5/8" hands

  • Moderators
  • 19,992 posts
  • LocationAcross the Universe

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

Well if you're going to bust on a 2nd rounder, I'd strongly prefer busting on a QB when you desperately NEED a QB.  A couple months ago we thought we were set with Garrard-Sanchez-Tebow and waiting until 2014 to snag one in the draft.  Now 2 of those are gone.  I'd say drafting Geno is looking smarter by the day.
 
Namath is usually pretty spot-on when it comes to his critiques of the Jets, but I think he's dead wrong on this one.  Sanchez is a nobody and you just can't argue that drafting Geno where we did wasn't a good move.  Nothing but upside, and if we missed, at least it was on the 39th pick of the draft rather than a top 10 pick. 


If Geno Smith can't beat out Sanchez, and a Gavin Escobar goes to the pro bowl, it was a crappy pick. Geno isn't pure upside, he's pure hit or miss. All of the knocks on him are the same knocks on Sanchez. Really, I don't understand the pick. The Jets needed a new pouting QB who fumbles a lot?

I hope I'm wrong about the guy, but I want to see him play sooner rather than later so that the Jets can dip back into the QB market next year if/when he proves not to be the immediate answer.
  • 0
back in my room
wish you were dead
you bawl like the baby
in Eraserhead

#20 Jetsfan80

Jetsfan80

    Hall Of Famer

  • Members
  • 47,028 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

It is easy to say that second rounders should be starters, but in every draft teams grab players that fall our of favor and drop into the second round and some hit and some miss.  With the Jets QB situation the most obvious weakness on the club, taking a high upside QB in the second round was a no brainer.  Whether he makes it big or busts, it was an excellent pick taking into account the talent of the player and the needs of the club.

 

Bingo.

 

QB may be the only position where it's OK to draft for need and reach if need be if you think he's your guy.  That's why I can't knock the Bills too much for trading back and taking EJ Manuel.  They realized Fitzpatrick wasn't their guy, cut him before the draft, then took the QB they wanted.  Until it fails miserably you can't really knock it.


  • 0

sheesh, I'm a doosh.


#21 Pac

Pac

    shark jumper

  • Members
  • 14,731 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:47 AM

Well if you're going to bust on a 2nd rounder, I'd strongly prefer busting on a QB when you desperately NEED a QB.  A couple months ago we thought we were set with Garrard-Sanchez-Tebow and waiting until 2014 to snag one in the draft.  Now 2 of those are gone.  I'd say drafting Geno is looking smarter by the day.

 

Namath is usually pretty spot-on when it comes to his critiques of the Jets, but I think he's dead wrong on this one.  Sanchez is a nobody and you just can't argue that drafting Geno where we did wasn't a good move.  Nothing but upside, and if we missed, at least it was on the 39th pick of the draft rather than a top 10 pick. 

 

More paragraphs on how much Sanchez sucks..  I admire your stamina..  even if your content is dog crap.


  • 0

#22 Jetsfan80

Jetsfan80

    Hall Of Famer

  • Members
  • 47,028 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:54 AM

If Geno Smith can't beat out Sanchez, and a Gavin Escobar goes to the pro bowl, it was a crappy pick. Geno isn't pure upside, he's pure hit or miss. All of the knocks on him are the same knocks on Sanchez. Really, I don't understand the pick. The Jets needed a new pouting QB who fumbles a lot?

I hope I'm wrong about the guy, but I want to see him play sooner rather than later so that the Jets can dip back into the QB market next year if/when he proves not to be the immediate answer.

 

Yes but the knocks on Sanchez didn't happen until AFTER he was in the league a while.  All these knocks on Geno are questionable.  None of the West Virginia fans I talk to or his former coaches talk about a pouting, fumbling Geno.  The WVU fans are skeptical that he'll turn into a good pro but he's not another Sanchez.

 

I think your 2nd point is what makes it a good pick.  We aren't tied to the guy.  We can draft a QB in the 1st round next season and no one will bat an eye.  Drafting Geno makes the 2013 season exciting, and in the end, the NFL is about entertainment.  I don't see much of a downside to any of that.

 

Moreover, it'll also give us a decent idea of whether or not the new offensive system and personnel around the QB are any good.  We KNOW Sanchez isn't making anybody look good. 


  • 0

sheesh, I'm a doosh.


#23 slats

slats

    9 5/8" hands

  • Moderators
  • 19,992 posts
  • LocationAcross the Universe

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:54 AM

It is easy to say that second rounders should be starters, but in every draft teams grab players that fall our of favor and drop into the second round and some hit and some miss.  With the Jets QB situation the most obvious weakness on the club, taking a high upside QB in the second round was a no brainer.  Whether he makes it big or busts, it was an excellent pick taking into account the talent of the player and the needs of the club.


The Jets had/have needs all over the roster. If Geno was the top player on their board, then good for them. If they passed over payers they had rated higher to fill a need, I don't like the pick at all.

Hey, I hope they saw something in him that all the other QB needy teams in the league didn't, but I'm just not excited about him. The best thing about the pick for me is that it's taken all of the focus off of Dee Milliner, who, without the Geno pick, would probably be facing daily scrutiny here and in the media.
  • 1
back in my room
wish you were dead
you bawl like the baby
in Eraserhead

#24 Jetsfan80

Jetsfan80

    Hall Of Famer

  • Members
  • 47,028 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

The Jets had/have needs all over the roster. If Geno was the top player on their board, then good for them. If they passed over payers they had rated higher to fill a need, I don't like the pick at all.

Hey, I hope they saw something in him that all the other QB needy teams in the league didn't, but I'm just not excited about him. The best thing about the pick for me is that it's taken all of the focus off of Dee Milliner, who, without the Geno pick, would probably be facing daily scrutiny here and in the media.

 

All day leading up to the 2nd round there were reports that the Jets were willing to move UP to acquire Geno.  Unless those were patently false I imagine he was their top guy.  He was the top-rated QB in the draft that most experts had going somewhere in the top 20.  We got him at 39.  He filled a need AND seemed to be the Jets' BPA. 

 

Who would you have had as your top guy there?


Edited by Jetsfan80, 22 May 2013 - 07:59 AM.

  • 0

sheesh, I'm a doosh.


#25 The Crusher

The Crusher

    JiF is all about that bass, bout that bass, no treble

  • Moderators
  • 30,004 posts

Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:00 AM

This is what I've been trying to tell you all for awhile now...  Sanchez can and will play better this year but it may be too late for him in NY.

Go troll and mow somewhere else.
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users