JetNation Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Meh, I'm not so sure about this one. In the long term I don't think anyone would argue with this theory, but for week one in it is far from a sure thing. The simple reason why is that this team, at QB, has absolutely become all about doing what is best for Geno Smith. If they believe that Geno isn't going to be ready for week 1 and that throwing him out there anyway has the potential to hurt him more than it helps, they'll suck it up and throw Sanchez to the wolves for a while until they think Geno is ready. Forget Rex, guys like Idzik and Mornhinweg aren't going to be willing to see this team start repeating the mistakes made before they were around. The Jets gave Sanchez the starting job on a silver platter in his rookie year, with absolutely no real competition or need for him to earn the job, a decision I think they have no intention of repeating with Geno. At this point Sanchez is still around simply to be a potential placeholder, and that's only because the hope of Garrard being that guy didn't work out for them. Sanchez has no long-term future with this team, but as much as I hate the idea of ever seeing him out on the field again, there's still a chance the team could feel it is in their best interests to go with him first, not because of what he brings to the table, but simply because it might be the right decision for Geno. This so-called "competition" isn't really designed to show the team which is the better QB, it's designed to show the team whether or not Geno is ready to be a starting QB in the NFL right now. That will be the one and only thing that will drive this team's decision-making process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 week 2 is thursday night @ NE. that could be a career ruiner for a not yet ready rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Sanchez has no long-term future with this team, but as much as I hate the idea of ever seeing him out on the field again, there's still a chance the team could feel it is in their best interests to go with him first, not because of what he brings to the table, but simply because it might be the right decision for Geno. Rather than thinking there's a chance of it playing out like this, I think this is the most likely scenario. Contrary to the article's final sentence, there are a lot of reasons to sit Geno. At least for a month or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Rather than thinking there's a chance of it playing out like this, I think this is the most likely scenario. Contrary to the article's final sentence, there are a lot of reasons to sit Geno. At least for a month or two. +1 Geno needs to be the clear-cut winner in camp if he's going to be the starter on Opening Day. If the competition in camp and the preseason is close, go with Sanchez until Geno is ready. It's better for the team long term to not rush things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 week 2 is thursday night @ NE. that could be a career ruiner for a not yet ready rookie. Yeah, that awesome Pats D is a QB killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 hasnt sanchez been playing better then geno during practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 a winner has already emerged....well, thats my opinion based on chez hate...... I mean did you see the butt fumble !?! lol !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Who writes these articles? Does no one copy edit them at all? Also, the entire premise is wrong. Sanchez will start Week 1. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Snatchez till least game 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yeah, that awesome Pats D is a QB killer. the last time Geno played meaningful football he was being stymied by Syracuse's awesome D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 the last time Geno played meaningful football he was being stymied by Syracuse's awesome D.. Wasn't his best game, but he did complete 68% of his passes in that game. If he can be accurate like that in Marty's system, he could do well. We already know Sanchez's college accuracy didn't translate to the NFL, hopefully Geno will have better results in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Wasn't his best game, but he did complete 68% of his passes in that game. If he can be accurate like that in Marty's system, he could do well. We already know Sanchez's college accuracy didn't translate to the NFL, hopefully Geno will have better results in that area. If this is true, I'll take Stymie, Spanky, Buckwheat, Wheezer, all of them mofos. LOL you edited your post as I was replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Wasn't his best game, but he did complete 68% of his passes in that game. If he can be accurate like that in Marty's system, he could do well. he also took 2 safeties. How does a QB take 2 safeties in the same game? It's Sanchez-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 If this is true, I'll take Stymie, Spanky, Buckwheat, Wheezer, all of them mofos. LOL you edited your post as I was replying. Yea, I fugged up a little bit on the first post. Had to make some changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 he also took 2 safeties. How does a QB take 2 safeties in the same game? It's Sanchez-esque. Geno should be commended for not handing 2 TDs over to the opposing defense. That would be Sanchez-eque. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Wasn't his best game, but he did complete 68% of his passes in that game. If he can be accurate like that in Marty's system, he could do well. We already know Sanchez's college accuracy didn't translate to the NFL, hopefully Geno will have better results in that area. I'm wondering if you watched that game? Even after his very mediocre second half of the season, I was still holding out some hope that Smith might be a viable option for the Jets at 9. After the game I had given up on him. Saying it wasn't his best game is mild. At 39 I'm OK I guess, just not real confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Throw him to the fire, and let him learn on the job. If he is going to succeed, he has to learn sooner or later.. and from the sidelines ain't where to do it from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Throw him to the fire, and let him learn on the job. If he is going to succeed, he has to learn sooner or later.. and from the sidelines ain't where to do it from. if he were an NFL ready QB I would agree. He is very far from that. If they just throw him in there he will develop all kinds of bad habits out of survival, and more then likely be out of the league in 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 if he were an NFL ready QB I would agree. He is very far from that. If they just throw him in there he will develop all kinds of bad habits out of survival, and more then likely be out of the league in 5 years the reason why he dropped to 39 is cause he's not ready for prime time. . . JMO. He has talent, but he has to be brought along carefully. Besides isn't handing a job to a player that he didn't earn a mistake they made with Sanchez? If Geno doesn't legitimately beat out Mark, he doesn't deserve to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 ........during 48 regular season games, the Eagles quarterbacks [under Mornhinweg] threw the ball 30 or more times in 40 of those contest... ...Mark Sanchez is 14-20 for his career when attempting 30 or more passes (.41 winning percentage) and only 5-11 (.31 winning percentage) during his last two seasons..... So by the author's own figures, Sanchez was 9-9 his first two years in games he threw 30 or more times. Not great, not terrible. Of course, back then he had people to throw to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 the reason why he dropped to 39 is cause he's not ready for prime time. . . JMO. He has talent, but he has to be brought along carefully. Besides isn't handing a job to a player that he didn't earn a mistake they made with Sanchez? If Geno doesn't legitimately beat out Mark, he doesn't deserve to start. The reason he fell is cause everyone doubted his accuracy with the long ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 "At this point Sanchez is still around simply to be a potential placeholder, and that's only because the hope of Garrard being "that guy didn't work out for them. Sanchez has no long-term future with this team, but as much as I hate the idea of ever seeing him out on the field again, there's still a chance the team could feel it is in their best interests to go with him first, not because of what he brings to the table, but simply because it might be the right decision for Geno." I totally agree with you, Bleedin' Green. Jets fans will suffer this year, no doubt, but at least it will be somewhat of a "rebuilding/allowing contracts to expire". Sanchez is definitely going to start by default. I never thought it was quite fair to start a rookie QB on day 1 - there's just too much to learn when you're a rookie in the NFL playing the most important offensive position on the field. The only question for me is the one BG just put out there: will the Jets new upper management be willing to throw Geno on the field when Sanchez begins spewing out his suckiness, or, since it's a rebuilding year anyway (and let's face reality this year, I think if the Jets win six games this year they should consider it a successful year), give Sanchez the dignity of starting some games for one more season before going to the announcing booth on ESPN4 and give Geno a limited amount of reps so he can learn. Either way, Sanchez will definitely be the starter in the season opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thread title should qualify that this is a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbone Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'm wondering if you watched that game? Even after his very mediocre second half of the season, I was still holding out some hope that Smith might be a viable option for the Jets at 9. After the game I had given up on him. Saying it wasn't his best game is mild. At 39 I'm OK I guess, just not real confident Yea, I watched Geno quite a bit last season and saw worse, so its all relative. If it took you that long to give up on him as a top ten pick, you must not have been watching very closely prior to that. He proved he wasn't worthy of a top ten selection way before that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judetruth Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Have Geno learn on the job. If we had a GOOD QB, I would be along the lines of sitting him. But we don't...what the hell can Geno learn from Sanchez besides 'do everything exactly the opposite of what I do'? Seriously...start Geno. We need to see how he does in games where there is pressure. Not games against freaking draft bowl opponents like Cleveland and Oakland... Sanchez is a broken man...end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Have Geno learn on the job. If we had a GOOD QB, I would be along the lines of sitting him. But we don't...what the hell can Geno learn from Sanchez besides 'do everything exactly the opposite of what I do'? Seriously...start Geno. We need to see how he does in games where there is pressure. Not games against freaking draft bowl opponents like Cleveland and Oakland... Sanchez is a broken man...end of story He can watch from the side and get a feel for the speed of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judetruth Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I guess...but why are we obsessed with him 'sitting and learning'? 5 months ago, if people knew we were going to get Geno, would anyone be talking about 'sitting and learning'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 the reason why he dropped to 39 is cause he's not ready for prime time. . . JMO. He has talent, but he has to be brought along carefully. Besides isn't handing a job to a player that he didn't earn a mistake they made with Sanchez? If Geno doesn't legitimately beat out Mark, he doesn't deserve to start. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 So by the author's own figures, Sanchez was 9-9 his first two years in games he threw 30 or more times. Not great, not terrible. Of course, back then he had people to throw to. Sanchez was actually good in maybe 2-3 of those 18 games (and even then he wasn't good start to finish, as he is/was pretty famous for). The D and special teams and ground game won most of those games for us & Sanchez went along for the ride. And that doesn't even count that two of those losses the D gave up 10 points or less. But dressing up history, to make Sanchez sound better in hindsight than he actually was, is hardly the point of the thread. If Geno can't beat out Sanchez, he shouldn't be starting. It's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 the reason why he dropped to 39 is cause he's not ready for prime time. . . JMO. He has talent, but he has to be brought along Just curious where that Russell Wilson kid dropped to? Guess he wasn't ready to start either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 i am on the fence with this one. heart says please start geno, can't stomach another season with sanchez. head says let this team work out some kinks before throwing the kid to the wolves. if geno is even or slightly better than sanchez in camp and still doesn't start despite undoubtedly having much more upside, will tell us a lot about rex's confidence level on keeping his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Just curious where that Russell Wilson kid dropped to? Guess he wasn't ready to start either. He actually proved himself to the coaches in the training camps. If Geno can do that start him. Don't see it happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 From all accounts I've read so far, and by the coaches comments, it would appear to be too close to call right now. That tells me he's at least AS good as Stinky Sanchez right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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