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#126 CobraVerde

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:31 PM

Hey, I'm just posting what a few people who know a few things posted on twitter.  There are plenty of Jets fans that want him to start.  They are just as misguided as you.

I was pretending to talk to the experts when i said Let's start Geno Smith Go right ahead. Im not misguided, im delusional....


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#127 Larz

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:32 PM

Sadly your right  

 

Based on the QB play in the preseason here is what the QB depth chart should look like

 

Sanchez------  Nothing special.  Decent Preseason.  made same type mistakes

 

Simms----- Hated Simms coming into the season.  Has been the best QB on the team.  Expected him to melt down tonight.  Played real well with questionable protection. 

 

Smith-----Kid has some upside, but really has had a shaky preseason.

 

 

I struggle with putting simms #2 right now.  geno went up against the giants starters.  but he had time to throw and still turned it over 3 times.  simms had 2 picks dropped.  

 

I love how simms responded after the safety, but you just have to give geno the first crack at starting if sanchez can't.  

 

I'm just literally going to pray they cut mcelrat, I couldn't take this team and the backlash if they cut simms or try yo stash him on the PS


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:33 PM

wtf?


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#129 Larz

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:35 PM

system QB


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:36 PM

I struggle with putting simms #2 right now.  geno went up against the giants starters.  but he had time to throw and still turned it over 3 times.  simms had 2 picks dropped.  

 

I love how simms responded after the safety, but you just have to give geno the first crack at starting if sanchez can't.  

 

I'm just literally going to pray they cut mcelrat, I couldn't take this team and the backlash if they cut simms or try yo stash him on the PS

 

It'll be like this week 1:

 

Geno

Simms

Sanchez (out injured)

 

McElroy cut.

 

That's the way I see it anyway. If Sanchez is healthy, he starts, Geno #2, Simms still on team as #3.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:39 PM

It'll be like this week 1:

 

Geno

Simms

Sanchez (out injured)

 

McElroy cut.

 

That's the way I see it anyway. If Sanchez is healthy, he starts, Geno #2, Simms still on team as #3.

 

 

wow

 

can you imagine if geno hurts his vagina and simms rallies the team to a win ?

 

can we be so lucky as to catch lightning in a bottle ?


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:52 PM

Yeah Our System and OUR new #3 qb for now. Will be the #2 by next year or might even unseat Geno.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:54 PM

Simms looked awesome against second and third stringers. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying my Super Bowl gear yet. Do Jets fans ALWAYS instantly overrate anyone who looks like they might not suck entirely?


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:54 PM

Simms looked good. I hope they give him a real chance. It was nice to know you McElroy.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:05 PM

at one point he was 31-38...


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:05 PM

system QB

 

that was running for his life


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:06 PM

Simms has looked the best of all of the Jets QB's and it isn't even close. He deserves to start Week 1 - but sadly won't.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:11 PM

......with 8 legit drops.....


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:12 PM

Simms looked awesome against second and third stringers. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying my Super Bowl gear yet. Do Jets fans ALWAYS instantly overrate anyone who looks like they might not suck entirely?

 

 

Nobody is asking you to buy Super Bowl gear.  Yes, Simms looked very good against 2nd and 3rd stringers.  Smith looked bad against the same type people.

 

Their both very young players.  Right now Simms has outplayed Smith.  Why should Smith get the #2 spot?  Because he's a 2nd round pick?  Make him ear that #2 spot.

 

He hasn't


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:13 PM

Nobody is asking you to buy Super Bowl gear.  Yes, Simms looked very good against 2nd and 3rd stringers.  Smith looked bad against the same type people.

 

Their both very young players.  Right now Simms has outplayed Smith.  Why should Smith get the #2 spot?  Because he's a 2nd round pick?  Make him ear that #2 spot.

 

He hasn't

 

I thought Idzik was all about open competition? Isnt that what we read about all spring?


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:20 PM

....with 2 should have been INTs and 0 TDs.... the kid is talented and he's getting better. Lets not crown him the king of new york yet.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:23 PM

....with 2 should have been INTs and 0 TDs.... the kid is talented and he's getting better. Lets not crown him the king of new york yet.

 

The one almost Int was on the WR. He broke late on the route. He also had two TD drives stopped because of fumbles. Right now he is the best option on the roster.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:25 PM

I thought Idzik was all about open competition? Isnt that what we read about all spring?

 

I agree.  That's my point.

 

I didn't consider Simms in the early QB competition, but the fact of the matter is he has out played both of the other QB's.  I'm not proclaiming him a "Super Star"  but he's been the best QB in camp by far.

 

He should at least be considered #2


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:28 PM

I agree.  That's my point.

 

I didn't consider Simms in the early QB competition, but the fact of the matter is he has out played both of the other QB's.  I'm not proclaiming him a "Super Star"  but he's been the best QB in camp by far.

 

He should at least be considered #2

 

Totally agree dude. No one is going to convince me that he can't be a serviceable starter in the league at this point. There were plenty of examples around the league of serviceable starters that could not do what he did against 2nd and 3rd stringers as good as he did.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:36 PM

at one point he was 31-38...

RSJ makes a good point with the drops. But also, I remember the announcer saying he hit "24 of his last 25 passes" midway through the 3rd qtr.
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:42 PM

Totally agree dude. No one is going to convince me that he can't be a serviceable starter in the league at this point. There were plenty of examples around the league of serviceable starters that could not do what he did against 2nd and 3rd stringers as good as he did.


There was AT LEAST 5 throws (love him, or hate him) that Simms put the ball perfectly on the WR in stride, that if it were a healthy S Holmes he would have taken possibly 2 to the house no question in my mind. Don't care what the situation was, tonight was the first time I was left wanting to see more of the Jets offense, and actually disappointed the game was over since the 1998 season.

Yes Simms has a HELL of A LOT to learn, but I honestly believe he could be that next great story QB IF he is kept with MM, and gets to either sit, and learn from him, or go out, and play in actual games with tonight's game plan of throwing the ball 40+ times regardless if he is 5-40, or 40-40. Same might be the case for G Smith, but I haven't seen enough of him to say that like I've seen from Simms.

1 major thing that concerns me is I haven't seen Simms attempt a real down field bomb, and with that throwing motion he might have extreme accuracy issues with those, and might be the real reason he hasn't/isn't given a real look, just speculation from me no real proof of this.
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:42 PM

When was the last time a Jets QB had no Int's through 4 qtrs?


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:48 PM

There was AT LEAST 5 throws (love him, or hate him) that Simms put the ball perfectly on the WR in stride, that if it were a healthy S Holmes he would have taken possibly 2 to the house no question in my mind. Don't care what the situation was, tonight was the first time I was left wanting to see more of the Jets offense, and actually disappointed the game was over since the 1998 season.

Yes Simms has a HELL of A LOT to learn, but I honestly believe he could be that next great story QB IF he is kept with MM, and gets to either sit, and learn from him, or go out, and play in actual games with tonight's game plan of throwing the ball 40+ times regardless if he is 5-40, or 40-40. Same might be the case for G Smith, but I haven't seen enough of him to say that like I've seen from Simms.

1 major thing that concerns me is I haven't seen Simms attempt a real down field bomb, and with that throwing motion he might have extreme accuracy issues with those, and might be the real reason he hasn't/isn't given a real look, just speculation from me no real proof of this.

 

Agree 110%

 

As far as the downfield bomb goes, you are right a lot of his throws were underneath. But the throw that went through Zack Rodgers hands (who needs to be cut btw). was a pretty deep and pretty tough throw. like you said, that is six points if it is Hill or Holmes out there. He just sticks it on the WR so nicely. There is no one on our roster who does that right now. I agree though there was not a ton of deep stuff. Was it because of him or the system? Idk the answer to that. I do know that MM loves the short passing game.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:53 PM

that was running for his life

 

 

LOL

 

That is the reason I'm so impressed. 


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:55 PM

....with 2 should have been INTs and 0 TDs.... the kid is talented and he's getting better. Lets not crown him the king of new york yet.

 

 

O K

 

But who's better?   Smith?  Why?  Because he's a 2nd round pick?  Don't buy it


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