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#1 CrazyCarl40

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

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The Jets have released TE Hayden Smith.

 


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#2 pointman

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

What a waste of time and roster space that guy was.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:29 PM

Seriously.  If we are going to to the every stone un-turned thing, we need to actually invest in their development. 


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:44 PM

He will be resigned when Winslow's knees fall off in week 3.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:54 PM

He will be resigned when Winslow's knees fall off in week 3.

Or maybe.. wild thought here... we can actually just sign an actual guy who has played Tight End.

 

Elite college athletes can't make the league, yet for some reason we think some foreign turd who hasn't never even seen a football before could step in and contribute when he wasn't even elite at his sport. Unreal. 


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:56 PM

Or maybe.. wild thought here... we can actually just sign an actual guy who has played Tight End.

 

Elite college athletes can't make the league, yet for some reason we think some foreign turd who hasn't never even seen a football before could step in and contribute when he wasn't even elite at his sport. Unreal. 

 

Yeah, I can agree with that too. Could we also make sure that the guy hasn't had 10 knee surgeries?


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:02 PM

You mean the guy nobody could cover?


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:09 PM

Seriously.  If we are going to to the every stone un-turned thing, we need to actually invest in their development. 

 

So Idzik should have kept around Tanny's 28-year-old not-a-football-player, who apparently wasn't one of the best 75 players on the roster, just because?


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:20 PM

So Idzik should have kept around Tanny's 28-year-old not-a-football-player, who apparently wasn't one of the best 75 players on the roster, just because?

 

This is a moot point because we we're talking about two different GMs. 


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:27 PM

He will be resigned when Winslow's knees fall off in week 3.

i hope that doesn't happen...i love how he was talking sh*t to the Giants sideline after a catch...didn't even seem like for any specific reason other than to just talk sh*t too....which is awesome


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:30 PM

This is a moot point because we we're talking about two different GMs. 

 

Yeah, that's the whole point.  You are the one who made a comment to "invest in their development" when it's about a guy the current GM had absolutely no involvement in adding in the first place.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:31 PM

Some team is going to make out like gangbusters in the mini-draft.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:53 PM

The New York Jets have announced that they have released Hayden Smith.

We had the opportunity to talk to Hayden Smith when he first signed with the Jets.  The ex Rugby star was learning football and was signed to the Jets practice squad after camp last year.  He was eventually signed to the active roster and caught one pass for 12 yards last season.  Tight End Jeff Cumberland has had an excellent camp and Kellen Winslow Jr has looked good as well.  That certainly factored into the release of Hayden Smith.

You can discuss this move and read more about about Hayden Smith on our message board.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:21 AM

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:51 AM

Ok so I'm sure anyone could have not expected this but does this team have a blocking TE ? Not that Smith would have even been good even at that but without a true blocking TE we once again expose ourselves to being predictable. For instance if we trot out a lineman anyone with a brain would know he's not running a passing pattern or even running a TE screen and this team has certainly had its share of one dimentional players at the RB and TE positions the last 5 years. Our Offense is already low on talent and showing your hand by bringing in specialists makes it that much worse. Tipping your hand to the defense certainly does not make us any less predictable and I guarantee that's a huge part of our problem. But you know what, why draft the best TE in the draft when you can draft the 4th defensive lineman in 3 years with top picks .


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:16 AM

There are too many good TE's that will be cut in the next week who are already better than this kid who I'm sure the Jets Pro personnel dept have ID'd. Well at least that's what I'd think they would do but past experience says probably not. 


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:55 AM

Cut this early he isn't even likely to make the practice squad. That is probably where he belonged last year.  I overestimated his value because they carried hiim active so much.  

 

Or maybe.. wild thought here... we can actually just sign an actual guy who has played Tight End.

 

Elite college athletes can't make the league, yet for some reason we think some foreign turd who hasn't never even seen a football before could step in and contribute when he wasn't even elite at his sport. Unreal. 

 

Yes, but a very slight difference in speed can be huge among these guys.  Having a guy that is slightly bigger or faster may make up for a guy being raw.  TE is an "athlete" position.  It's the one the NFL most loses out on to the NBA. 


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:15 AM

Ok so I'm sure anyone could have not expected this but does this team have a blocking TE ? Not that Smith would have even been good even at that but without a true blocking TE we once again expose ourselves to being predictable. For instance if we trot out a lineman anyone with a brain would know he's not running a passing pattern or even running a TE screen and this team has certainly had its share of one dimentional players at the RB and TE positions the last 5 years. Our Offense is already low on talent and showing your hand by bringing in specialists makes it that much worse. Tipping your hand to the defense certainly does not make us any less predictable and I guarantee that's a huge part of our problem. But you know what, why draft the best TE in the draft when you can draft the 4th defensive lineman in 3 years with top picks .

 

The last thing a guy they didn't play college or HS ball is going to be able to do is block.  

 

They have Jason Smith who played TE/extra T for us last year.  If you think he's Jumbo Elliot and we are going to tip our hand, remember that he played TE at Baylor and probably has better hands than guys like Becht or Sean Ryan. Nobody is running a TE screen to their blocking TE.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:18 AM

Ok so I'm sure anyone could have not expected this but does this team have a blocking TE ? Not that Smith would have even been good even at that but without a true blocking TE we once again expose ourselves to being predictable. For instance if we trot out a lineman anyone with a brain would know he's not running a passing pattern or even running a TE screen and this team has certainly had its share of one dimentional players at the RB and TE positions the last 5 years. Our Offense is already low on talent and showing your hand by bringing in specialists makes it that much worse. Tipping your hand to the defense certainly does not make us any less predictable and I guarantee that's a huge part of our problem. But you know what, why draft the best TE in the draft when you can draft the 4th defensive lineman in 3 years with top picks .

 

When this team had Matt Mulligan (think that was his first name anyway), did anyone truly think we were having him as a target in a pass play?


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:27 AM

Ok so I'm sure anyone could have not expected this but does this team have a blocking TE ? Not that Smith would have even been good even at that but without a true blocking TE we once again expose ourselves to being predictable. For instance if we trot out a lineman anyone with a brain would know he's not running a passing pattern or even running a TE screen and this team has certainly had its share of one dimentional players at the RB and TE positions the last 5 years. Our Offense is already low on talent and showing your hand by bringing in specialists makes it that much worse. Tipping your hand to the defense certainly does not make us any less predictable and I guarantee that's a huge part of our problem. But you know what, why draft the best TE in the draft when you can draft the 4th defensive lineman in 3 years with top picks .

 

 

Here is your answer:

 

Eifert: 

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 Lean receiver-like build. Does not play with consistent explosiveness and leverage when blocking in-line, will get pulled down by NFL ends and miss reach-blocks against quicker ends. Still growing as a blocker and needs to use better angles. Stronger linebackers will rip off his blocks and ride him off his route when he does not use his hands effectively

 

Ertz: 

 Inconsistent in-line blocker, can get after his man but also loses the leverage battle and gets pushed back too easily. Misses second-level blocks when lunging at targets instead of getting position. Nice job adding bulk to his frame, but needs to continue to develop his strength to sustain blocks at the line of scrimmage. 


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:32 AM

The last thing a guy they didn't play college or HS ball is going to be able to do is block.  

 

They have Jason Smith who played TE/extra T for us last year.  If you think he's Jumbo Elliot and we are going to tip our hand, remember that he played TE at Baylor and probably has better hands than guys like Becht or Sean Ryan. Nobody is running a TE screen to their blocking TE.

 

What round should I draft him for FF, please respond quickly, my draft is tonight!!!!


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:45 AM

What round should I draft him for FF, please respond quickly, my draft is tonight!!!!

 

 

Two rounds before Hayden Smith.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:50 AM

Wait, so.... Tannenbaum looked under the wrong stone?


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