Villain The Foe Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Sucks major balls, and thats only IF he doesnt fumble or drop them. Such a tool. Seriously can't believe Mike Tannenbaum had this dude as a 1st round grade drafting him out of college. You cant even call this kid a bust because he was never an impressive WR, he simply had an impressive physique that this terrible ex-GM compared to Calvin Johnson. Dude is an athlete but he is not even a halfway decent WR. We could have atleast got Alshon Jeffery, who may not blow the top off of every defense in the league but he can f'ing catch a football. Whats the point of having a ultra fast WR who cant run solid routes, catch and secure the football? This WR corp is terrible, but this Stephen Hill dude can seriously be replaced by quite a few WR's currently on free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Sucks major balls, and thats only IF he doesnt fumble or drop them. Such a tool. Cant seriously can't believe Mike Tannenbaum had this dude as a 1st round grade drafting him out of college. You cant even call this kid a bust because he was never an impressive WR, he simply had an impressive physique that this terrible ex-GM compared to Calvin Johnson. Dude is an athlete but he is not even a halfway decent WR. We could have atleast got Alshon Jeffery, who may not blow the top off of every defense in the league but he can f'ing catch a football. Whats the point of having a ultra fast WR who cant run solid routes, catch and secure the football? This WR corp is terrible, but this Stephen Hill dude can seriously be replaced by quite a few WR's currently on free agency. Nah, stephen hill was terrible no doubt. But give him a couples years and I could see him becoming a great wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Stephen Lamb Jones is going to be a beast. And Tannenbaum was brilliant. You're just jealous. Of something. Not sure what, just yet. But I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Im done with him. He got a free pass with the drops last year. This year it's a problem that we all know will not get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You know what really bothered me. Sometime in the first half it was like 3rd and 8 and he caught the ball 5 yards out then, with some space, couldn't make a move around the CB to get the first and was stopped just short to punt. No moves, no athleticism, it's like his brain is going too fast for his body to adjust. He just doesn't seem like a football player half the time. Which sucks bc he can clearly separate and has some major top end speed and length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He's a cradler, and needs to attack the ball. With his eyes open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You know what really bothered me. Sometime in the first half it was like 3rd and 8 and he caught the ball 5 yards out then, with some space, couldn't make a move around the CB to get the first and was stopped just short to punt. No moves, no athleticism, it's like his brain is going too fast for his body to adjust. He just doesn't seem like a football player half the time. Which sucks bc he can clearly separate and has some major top end speed and length. He runs like his legs have separate functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He run's like a rock em' sock em' robot punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He's trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The idea that he runs a sub 4.4 is amazing to me. Cause he must be one of those guys that gets scared and actually runs slower. There is not one single redeeming quality about that turd. Not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Cant seriously can't believe Mike Tannenbaum had this dude as a 1st round grade drafting him out of college. Hill was drafted in the 2nd, and plenty of people had him in that area of the draft in the press world. My opinion is that the perception of him and especially his long term potential is as delusional and exaggerated in the negative now as it was in the positive last year. From that perspective I think he's coming on better than not, and it's just a matter of getting the reps he will be getting. He's not a future superstar, but I've seen signs he has a shot at having a career playing WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 @MikeGiardi: Add insult to injury...one of the Jets team buses broke down and is currently not going anywhere #patriotstalk Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN44m Mangold on Belichick yelling at him: "He got heated about it. I was a little surprised by that. I figured he’d have a little bit more poise" Retweeted by Michael Giardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 @MikeGiardi: Add insult to injury...one of the Jets team buses broke down and is currently not going anywhere #patriotstalk Expand So ghetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Hill is part of the Vernon Gholston syndrom - drafting guys who have good workouts and dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Hill is part of the Vernon Gholston syndrom - drafting guys who have good workouts and dimensions. Part of the problem with how Hill gets perceived here: he was not a high first round pick, he wasn't even a first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Nah, stephen hill was terrible no doubt. But give him a couples years and I could see him becoming a great wide receiver. que couple years que couple years?! He's a WR not a QB. Rookie WRs come into this league and catch the ball. He gets open and should be snatching balls out of the sky with his height but he's catching the ball with his body which is some sh*t you learn to stop in high school. This sunday watch Calvin or AJ or Dez. They dont wait for the ball to come to them, the go and grab the ball out of the air. If Stephen Hill hasnt figured out that to this point, he's no good. Cut Gates like limb that was bitten by a zombie, and bring in Braylon to teach Hill how to catch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 que couple years que couple years?! He's a WR not a QB. Rookie WRs come into this league and catch the ball. He gets open and should be snatching balls out of the sky with his height but he's catching the ball with his body which is some sh*t you learn to stop in high school. This sunday watch Calvin or AJ or Dez. They dont wait for the ball to come to them, the go and grab the ball out of the air. If Stephen Hill hasnt figured out that to this point, he's no good. Cut Gates like limb that was bitten by a zombie, and bring in Braylon to teach Hill how to catch... Calvin dropped many passes his rookie season. WR is a hard position to learn. Wr's often take off in their third nfl season (I believe). You guys are having way to high expectations for a 2nd rounder. He was raw coming in so he needs time to learn. Very few wr's do well their first two years, they need time to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieny Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He runs like his legs have separate functions. Yea I hate how he runs. He looks like a new born fawn. His route running is pathetic and he is so delusional in post game interviews saying he had a good game. You gotta be kidding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He will become a good WR. It will take until next season though. Most high first round WR's take 3 years to develop, let alone raw second rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You know what really bothered me. Sometime in the first half it was like 3rd and 8 and he caught the ball 5 yards out then, with some space, couldn't make a move around the CB to get the first and was stopped just short to punt. No moves, no athleticism, it's like his brain is going too fast for his body to adjust. He just doesn't seem like a football player half the time. Which sucks bc he can clearly separate and has some major top end speed and length. You know what really bothered me. Sometime in the first half it was like 3rd and 8 and he caught the ball 5 yards out then, with some space, couldn't make a move around the CB to get the first and was stopped just short to punt. No moves, no athleticism, it's like his brain is going too fast for his body to adjust. He just doesn't seem like a football player half the time. Which sucks bc he can clearly separate and has some major top end speed and length. He outweighed the guy by 40 lbs, but he forgot he had a shoulder. You have to square up on a guy like that and bowl him over, not run sideways and let him lay you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 We are first in the NFL with all the potential. Catch the ******* football Willy Mays Hayes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I agree with the poster that said cut Gates and bring Edwards back to teach Hill to catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Ok I was saying be patient with him but I am losing that. He can not turn the ball over and he has to use his size advantage to make plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Stephen Hill has no weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeebKnows Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He's a cradler, and needs to attack the ball. With his eyes open. This is an issue with all of our receivers. They need to fight for the ball. Last night no one fought for the ball. SHill is struggling but Gates has to go first. Play Spadola! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I've been trying to be patient with Hill, but last night was the last straw. The way he was carrying the ball on the play when he fumbled was inexcusable. That isn't being raw. That's being an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I've been trying to be patient with Hill, but last night was the last straw. The way he was carrying the ball on the play when he fumbled was inexcusable. That isn't being raw. That's being an idiot. Wow, your life as a football fan must have been WAY more miserable than mine and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Calvin dropped many passes his rookie season. WR is a hard position to learn. Wr's often take off in their third nfl season (I believe). You guys are having way to high expectations for a 2nd rounder. He was raw coming in so he needs time to learn. Very few wr's do well their first two years, they need time to grow. That's right. Laverneues Coles did almost nothing for us the first two years, then came on strong. Over at the Giants, Amani Toomer did nothing for 3 years, then came on strong also. If you draft a WR and he's good right away, you are lucky. Usually it takes time. I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh4dy15 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 My biggest problem with Hill is saying that he thought he "played pretty well" after the game in an interview. This guy should be mad at himself, not okay with how he played. That's crap. I do think he will get better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I am in the middle on Hill. Yeah, he may still develop into something better. But it's going to be painful watching him and waiting for that to happen. He may well have too many negatives to ever get to be an above average receiver. At this point I think it's safe to say that he so far has not justified his being a second round pick, and probably never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I agree with the poster that said cut Gates and bring Edwards back to teach Hill to catch. Braylon Edwards makes the catches and doesn't fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That's right. Laverneues Coles did almost nothing for us the first two years, then came on strong. Over at the Giants, Amani Toomer did nothing for 3 years, then came on strong also. If you draft a WR and he's good right away, you are lucky. Usually it takes time. I don't know why. It probably has to do with learning all the routes and getting the right footwork. Wr is a difficult position to play, it takes years for rookie wr's to learn the position. Everyone is having way to high expectations on Hill, he was raw coming out of college, so I'd imagine it's going to take him even longer to get it down, but once he does he'll be good. People need to remember that players like Aj Green who come out of college and do extremely well their first year are rare. Hell, a lot of wr's don't even play their rookie year. If Hill wasn't raw coming out of college, we wouldn't have gotten him in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Hills a #3-#4 WR at best. Wake the hell up Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He will become a good WR. It will take until next season though. Most high first round WR's take 3 years to develop, let alone raw second rounders. Right now, after he boycotted our chance to be 2-0; I can't stand the dude but at the same time I think he is going to be at the very least, a good WR. I expect him to be more consistent catching the ball as was the case with Braylon early in his career. If you watch Hill play, it seen that he always separate from his defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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