JetNation Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The Jets won a close game, 27-20, a game that should have been a blowout due to the dominating Jets defense for three quarters of the game. The Jets set a team record with 20 penalties for over 150 yards and somehow still won the ballgame. The offense started off hot before fizzling out in the second half. The highlight of the second half was when E.J. Manuel led his team down the field for the tie at 20, Geno Smith threw a 69 yard touchdown to Santonio Holmes to give them the lead for good. The defense held and the Jets are 2-1 on the season. OFFENSE Game Ball: Santonio Holmes 5 receptions, 154 yards, 69-yard game-winning TD Geno Smith threw for 331 yards on 16/29. He threw for two touchdowns and also ran for one on a quarterback draw. Bilal Powell ran for a career high 149 yards on 27 carries. Chris Ivory re-injured his hamstring on the first series of the game so the Jets leaned heavily on Powell to lead the run game. Alex Green, a recent waiver pickup from the Green Bay Packers chipped in with 5 carries for 14 yards. The Jets offense totaled 5 13 yards, easily the most in Rex Ryan’s tenure as a head coach. The receivers came to play yesterday. Besides Holmes 154 yards, Stephen Hill had 3 receptions for 108 yards and a touchdown. Having Jeremy Kerley back was a plus also, catching 2 balls for only 25 yards, but one was on a key 3rd and 17 first down on the first drive of the game. The Jets had a game plan of throwing the ball down field versus the Bills. Smith threw early and often down the field, challenging a injury-riddled secondary. Once Leodis McKelvin went down, the Jets picked on 3rd year corner Justin Rogers, who gave up both long Jets touchdowns in man-to-man coverage. In future games, Smith needs to utilize his tight ends more in the pass game. Jeff Cumberland had three catches, two of them late in the game, but Kellen Winslow was only targeted once on a play that the Bills got called for pass interference. The tight ends know how to get open in this offense and Winslow’s experience along with Cumberland’s athleticism make them weapons that the Jets need to target more often. Rex Ryan challenged a 3rd down and 1 spot after Bilal Powell was clearly stopped behind the line. It was unnecessary and impulsive. Anyone watching the game could tell that Ryan didn’t know whether to take a timeout or not, so he threw a challenge flag instead. Ultimately, he was wrong and it cost him a timeout that could’ve been useful later in the game. Vlad Ducasse, coming off easily his best game as a professional, struggled versus the Bills, committing four penalties including two false starts. D’Brickashaw Ferguson and Austin Howard did an excellent job containing Mario Williams (4.5 sacks vs. Carolina last week) and the rest of the Bills defensive line. The Bills had zero sacks, a week after having 6 as a team. On top of containing the pass rush, the Jets rushed for 182 yards and the offensive line created big lanes for the running backs all game long. DEFENSE Game Ball: Defensive Line, 4 sacks (8 total), 6 tackles for loss. Once again the Jets defensive front seven played well. The defensive line was in the backfield all game long, causing eight sacks and forcing Manuel to tuck the ball and run four times (6 carries total for 40 yards). David Harris and Demario Davis continued their excellent play, combining for 13 tackles and 2 sacks. The secondary, in general, was good. There were two coverage blunders, one that cost the team the game-tying touchdown, but Cromartie was solid, and the safeties Antonio Allen, Dawan Landry, and Jaiquawn Jarrett played physical and had two sacks as a group. On a negative note, the linebackers and defensive line got called for three encroachment penalties, two of them were 3rd and less than 5 yards, giving the Bills an automatic first down. Kyle Wilson, the 1st round bust from 2010, committed four penalties on four consecutive plays. Rex Ryan continued to allow him to play after the first two penalties and it almost cost them the ballgame. Wilson single-handedly led the Bills down the field for the game-tying drive. Wilson committed 45 yards worth of penalties and it would’ve been 60 if not for an offsetting penalty call. Ryan finally pulled Wilson for a series, but then put him back in the game, where he should’ve been called for another pass interference that the referees let go. Jets fans know that Ryan loves to play his favorites, Wilson included, and for that reason he deserves flak for allowing Wilson to come back into the game. Darrin Walls has been solid in the secondary and, in the little bit of time that Dee Milliner played, he blanketed receivers when he was challenged. Jets fans would’ve loved to see Milliner or Walls play more. Kyle Wilson is not a good cornerback in this league, and if the Jets continue to play him, it will only hurt them, having to play five top quarterbacks in six weeks. After Jake Locker, who’s played well so far in 2013, the Jets have Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger, Tom Brady, Andy Dalton,and Drew Brees before the bye. They need to get the second cornerback job straightened out before that. Rex Ryan’s emotion-based challenge on the Stevie Johnson catch along the sideline cost the Jets another timeout, as well as, their ability to challenge a play. It hurt the Jets when QB E.J. Manuel ran for a first down, was hit and fumbled. Due to the fact that the Jets wasted both of their challenges within a minute of each other, the Jets couldn’t challenge the ruling on the field. Ryan and the Jets were lucky to escape with a win, but Ryan deserves much criticism for his challenges and his teams’ discipline, or lack thereof. SPECIAL TEAMS Game Ball: Ellis Lankster: 2 special teams tackles, downed the ball at the 1 yard line prior to last Bills drive of the game. Rookie Ryan Quigley was average at best, averaging 42 yards per punt, but pinned the Bills inside the 20 on only 2 of 7 punts. The last one was easily his best, having it downed at the one yard line. Nick Folk was 2/2 on field goals and 3/3 on extra points. Kick coverage was excellent all day, led by Ellis Lankster who is becoming the Jets best special teams player. He can open field tackle on kickoffs, as well as, get down the field on punts to help down the ball. A positive to note from the punt return team is that the Jets put two defenders on each gunner this week, allowing Jeremy Kerley to return a few punts. Although, he didn’t break any big ones, it was better than the 5 or 6 fair catch average of the past. Follow Me: View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 "Ryan and the Jets were lucky to escape with a win, but Ryan deserves much criticism for his challenges and his teams’ discipline, or lack thereof." Yes he does, and as always I will be there to help supply it. I think Rex is AT BEST half a HC which means the team really has NO HC. Rex does not fathom the challenge rule. When a call is made it is RARELY overturned as you have to have "conclusive evidence that the play was wrong." He does not know when to call timeouts either and wastes them countless times. I don't care if the Jets win 10 games this season Idzik STILL needs to fire Rex after this season. I just don't think Ryan can win a SB and isn't that what we all long for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 "Ryan and the Jets were lucky to escape with a win, but Ryan deserves much criticism for his challenges and his teams’ discipline, or lack thereof." Yes he does, and as always I will be there to help supply it. I think Rex is AT BEST half a HC which means the team really has NO HC. Rex does not fathom the challenge rule. When a call is made it is RARELY overturned as you have to have "conclusive evidence that the play was wrong." He does not know when to call timeouts either and wastes them countless times. I don't care if the Jets win 10 games this season Idzik STILL needs to fire Rex after this season. I just don't think Ryan can win a SB and isn't that what we all long for? With a better QB, he's probably in one or two, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 "Ryan and the Jets were lucky to escape with a win, but Ryan deserves much criticism for his challenges and his teams’ discipline, or lack thereof." Yes he does, and as always I will be there to help supply it. I think Rex is AT BEST half a HC which means the team really has NO HC. Rex does not fathom the challenge rule. When a call is made it is RARELY overturned as you have to have "conclusive evidence that the play was wrong." He does not know when to call timeouts either and wastes them countless times. I don't care if the Jets win 10 games this season Idzik STILL needs to fire Rex after this season. I just don't think Ryan can win a SB and isn't that what we all long for? Rex isn't getting fired if he wins 10 games. You can correct the in-game issues. You can't guarantee a top defense every year with another coach. And that is what the Jets have with Rex. It was bad yesterday, but they won. Rex is too emotional when he makes certain coaching decisions. He can improve on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 no one gets fired after winning 10 games. also, the penalties were something of an anomaly at this point. if it keeps happening like yesterday we're in trouble, but that doesn't seem likely. Rex's teams have been pretty disciplined in years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 no one gets fired after winning 10 games. also, the penalties were something of an anomaly at this point. if it keeps happening like yesterday we're in trouble, but that doesn't seem likely. Rex's teams have been pretty disciplined in years past. didnt Lovie Smith get fired after a 10 win season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 no one gets fired after winning 10 games. also, the penalties were something of an anomaly at this point. if it keeps happening like yesterday we're in trouble, but that doesn't seem likely. Rex's teams have been pretty disciplined in years past. I guess your right. Walt Michaels technically only went 6-3 and lost in the conference championship the year he got fired for <cough,cough> Joe ******* Walton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 didnt Lovie Smith get fired after a 10 win season? rephrase? most people don't get fired after 10 win seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 rephrase? most people don't get fired after 10 win seasons. What's his name got fired from San Diego after winning 14, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Let's not get too carried away - the won AND they set a new team record. Show some appreciation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 no one gets fired after winning 10 games. Remember our old, old OC with the last name Schottenheimer. Look up his dad, Marty. 14-2 and a first-round playoff loss got him a pink slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I guess your right. Walt Michaels technically only went 6-3 and lost in the conference championship the year he got fired for <cough,cough> Joe ******* Walton. you're waaay before my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Remember our old, old OC with the last name Schottenheimer. Look up his dad, Marty. 14-2 and a first-round playoff loss got him a pink slip. is that the norm though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 is that the norm though? What does the norm have to do with "noone"? They named two guys and I added a guy from the Jets that was better than the equivalent of 10-6. It happens. The Lovie Smith situation is VERY similar to the Jets current situation, new GM, leftover coach. The only real differences are that the Bears had Cutler and therefore, probably greater expectations and I think we assume 10-6 will get us in the playoffs and the Bears didn't quite make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 What does the norm have to do with "noone"? They named two guys and I added a guy from the Jets that was better than the equivalent of 10-6. It happens. The Lovie Smith situation is VERY similar to the Jets current situation, new GM, leftover coach. The only real differences are that the Bears had Cutler and therefore, probably greater expectations and I think we assume 10-6 will get us in the playoffs and the Bears didn't quite make it. I rephrased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I personally like when Rex gets emotional and wates challenges. Its like a drunk guy blowing his bill money at the strip club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I personally like when Rex gets emotional and wates challenges. Its like a drunk guy blowing his bill money at the strip club. For Rex more like at the pedicure salon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 There are certain moments where Rex looks like an idiot. If he has to many of them over the year, even at 10-6, Idzik might fire him. As others have stated, it's been done before and Rex isn't buddy buddy with Idzik and he's not Idzik's man. My worry with all of that is there are very few coaches like Rex who know defense like him. The guy is proving year after year that no matter who you give him, he'll somehow find a way to convince a defense to play above and beyond and wind up as one of the better defenses in the league. You lose all that once he's gone. I honestly can't see another DC coming in and coming close to being as good as Rex on defense. Which means you need to build a great offense. The jets sure aren't a great offense at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 imo, the solution is to keep MM and make him 100% responsible for all things offense, hire an Asst HC and make him responsible for game time decisions, keep Rex as HC but in practice make him a glorified DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Remember our old, old OC with the last name Schottenheimer. Look up his dad, Marty. 14-2 and a first-round playoff loss got him a pink slip. After several years of futility in the playoffs. Marty was a great regular season coach, but horrible post season coach. Pretty much why he hasn't coached in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Monday morning thought? Defense finally got the game ending stop(s?) Also, Did Fred Jackson really have vaseline on his jersey when he got away from Pace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 imo, the solution is to keep MM and make him 100% responsible for all things offense, hire an Asst HC and make him responsible for game time decisions, keep Rex as HC but in practice make him a glorified DC Couldn't agree more with this. The Rex haters just can't grasp how much the defense will fall off without him. With Rex and a compentent O, the sky is the limit. Lock MM up long term even if you have to make him the highest paid O coordinator. He is certainly one of the best if not the best O coordinator the Jets have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Monday morning thought? Defense finally got the game ending stop(s?) Also, Did Fred Jackson really have vaseline on his jersey when he got away from Pace? Didn't think of that, good point. If not for that Bonehead Wilson, the Jets D pitches a shutout for TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 rephrase? most people don't get fired after 10 win seasons. I hear ya...lol but as 27 said, our situation is very similar to the bears. I think Rex is out of his element as HC but a great def coord. I'm sure at some point Idzik will want his guy in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I hear ya...lol but as 27 said, our situation is very similar to the bears. I think Rex is out of his element as HC but a great def coord. I'm sure at some point Idzik will want his guy in place If Rex has a winning season Idzik will keep him. GMs only get to fire one coach before they get fired. So if Idzik can give Rex a few seasons it only buys him more time himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Couldn't agree more with this. The Rex haters just can't grasp how much the defense will fall off without him. With Rex and a compentent O, the sky is the limit. Lock MM up long term even if you have to make him the highest paid O coordinator. He is certainly one of the best if not the best O coordinator the Jets have ever had. Mornhinweg was a coup for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 If Rex has a winning season Idzik will keep him. GMs only get to fire one coach before they get fired. So if Idzik can give Rex a few seasons it only buys him more time himself. Does Idzik even get to fire Rex on his own? Woody said Rex would get one more year guaranteed, but did not say specifically Idzik could fire him on his own after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Does Idzik even get to fire Rex on his own? Woody said Rex would get one more year guaranteed, but did not say specifically Idzik could fire him on his own after that. It won't matter, the Jets are going to the playoffs. They won't win it all but this offseason we will be talking about: 1. making sure Rex improves his in game decision making (challenges) 2. hoping Geno avoids the 2nd year jinx so the Jets can live up to the hype and win it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_psg Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes he was exactly opposite of Coughlin, great in regular season only to get eliminated in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I hear ya...lol but as 27 said, our situation is very similar to the bears. I think Rex is out of his element as HC but a great def coord. I'm sure at some point Idzik will want his guy in place true, although I am banking on Woody interference in making this "Rex won't get fired if he wins 10 games" prediction, even if Idzik wants to let him go...although who knows. Idzik might wanna keep Rex around as long as Rex keeps to the company line and doesn't overdo it with the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 sorry double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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