Villain The Foe Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I was just watching Loud Mouths and the asked the question. Quite intriguing. I'd say that he's definitely the best defender in NY with Cro behind him. As for the best football player, thats a tough one. I really like Victor Cruz. He's easily the best WR in town and is the only player showing up to work for the Giants. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I was just watching Loud Mouths and the asked the question. Quite intriguing. I'd say that he's definitely the best defender in NY with Cro behind him. As for the best football player, thats a tough one. I really like Victor Cruz. He's easily the best WR in town and is the only player showing up to work for the Giants. What do you guys think? I think he has a legitimate shot to be considered the best player in NY; he plays one of the most important positions outside of QB and since Eli's nosedive has made that a non-case, I think so. It's funny about Cruz, I actually think Nicks is more talented, even though he's always banged up. I think Nicks is gonna hit the market and Randle is going to take over, which he's done a pretty decent job of doing so thus far. So to answer your question, I'd say yes, he's either the best player in NY or one of a few if I'm forgetting someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Right now I'd say yes and I don't even think it's close. He doesn't play a glamour position but he's a man amongst boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 For a few more games, then it will be Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 yes and sheldon is right on his tail **** the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i remember the big full page article that said Mo Lewis was the best player in NY..... The Jets sucked that year. if we have the best player in NY, I wish for once it would be our friggin QB. ONCE!!! Anywho... I'm loving Wilkerson and am thinking he hasn't even reached his potential yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_psg Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 You could safely say he is the best defensive player in NY/NJ. Hopefully Geno gets better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 yes. without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i remember the big full page article that said Mo Lewis was the best player in NY..... The Jets sucked that year. if we have the best player in NY, I wish for once it would be our friggin QB. ONCE!!! Consider this. For the better part of a decade, the two best players on the Raiders were the kicker and punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Considering that he's going to be mentioned as one of the best defensive players in Football after this season, I'd say its he's easily the best player on either side of the ball in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr726 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 He's a BEAST!!! Easily the best defensive player in NY/NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I was just watching Loud Mouths and the asked the question. Quite intriguing. I'd say that he's definitely the best defender in NY with Cro behind him. As for the best football player, thats a tough one. I really like Victor Cruz. He's easily the best WR in town and is the only player showing up to work for the Giants. What do you guys think? Easily the best defensive player. Eli, despite the crappy play of the past few weeks, is the best player overall. Franchise QB. No-brainer. Cruz gets an honorable mention, as does Mangold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jettington Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I don't understand why people debate stuff like this, I saw the debate on loudmouths as well, and stuff like this annoys me almost as much as debates about what QBs are "elite" It's all opinion anyways, there's no fixed standard to determine what players are better across positions, and even within positions there's a lot of factors to consider. But right NOW, is WIlkerson better at his position than Eli is at his? Without a doubt yes. And is Wilkerson better at his position than Cruz is at his? I say yes, but not as confidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Consider this. For the better part of a decade, the two best players on the Raiders were the kicker and punter. And just before that they went to the Super Bowl. I'd take it. And actually Seymore and Aso weren't so bad for a while there. ( I get your point though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodimwithere Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Well, Eli Manning sure isn't right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The fact that he's getting positive recognition (Gruden, Loudmouths, Sportscenter, et al) means he won't be snubbed come probowl time. We can thank Rex for planting this seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Yes he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Only because the other two Jet candidates are rookies. That is saying something because Wilkerson is a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wilkerson is the best defensive player in NY !!! Can't compare him to manning cause the qb has tthe ball in his hands every offensive play so u can't compare him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 He is the rock of our defense- no doubt best defensive player in New York- look how far Jason Pierre Paul has fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 i remember the big full page article that said Mo Lewis was the best player in NY..... The Jets sucked that year. if we have the best player in NY, I wish for once it would be our friggin QB. ONCE!!! Anywho... I'm loving Wilkerson and am thinking he hasn't even reached his potential yet. It could be worse we could have Eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Wilkerson or Mario Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 I don't understand why people debate stuff like this, I saw the debate on loudmouths as well, and stuff like this annoys me almost as much as debates about what QBs are "elite" It's all opinion anyways, there's no fixed standard to determine what players are better across positions, and even within positions there's a lot of factors to consider. But right NOW, is WIlkerson better at his position than Eli is at his? Without a doubt yes. And is Wilkerson better at his position than Cruz is at his? I say yes, but not as confidently. I did it because I thought it was a good topic. Sorry if I annoyed you. Im going to jump off a bridge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Wilkerson or Mario Williams Mario is still a freak, but I saw him get pretty much shut-down twice by Austin Howard and company; I've yet to see Wilkerson get stone-walled by anybody this year. *since we're talking about the bills anyway, that Kiko Alonso kid is going to be a good one. Between him, Sheldon, Eric Reid(LSU), Tyran Mathieu (LSU) and Star, it's going to be a fun race for DROY. All these guys can really play. Whens the last time, if it's ever happened, that one single team has had both the DROY and OROY? I'm curious, because that is a distinct possibility this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 Mario is still a freak, but I saw him get pretty much shut-down twice by Austin Howard and company; I've yet to see Wilkerson get stone-walled by anybody this year. *since we're talking about the bills anyway, that Kiko Alonso kid is going to be a good one. Between him, Sheldon, Eric Reid(LSU), Tyran Mathieu (LSU) and Star, it's going to be a fun race for DROY. All these guys can really play. Whens the last time, if it's ever happened, that one single team has had both the DROY and OROY? I'm curious, because that is a distinct possibility this year. Kiko Alonso is fun to watch. Kid gets it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 It could be worse we could have Eli Yeah, I hear ya, but once again he just won two superbowls for the Giants and now is having a down year. I'd take it. This is just a year off for them. Hell they might even want to go for a top 3 pick this year and revamp some things. Stock up a smidgen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Easily the best defensive player. Eli, despite the crappy play of the past few weeks, is the best player overall. Franchise QB. No-brainer. Cruz gets an honorable mention, as does Mangold. this. I would trade mo wilks and any other player on the jets that the giants wanted for eli manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Mario is still a freak, but I saw him get pretty much shut-down twice by Austin Howard and company; I've yet to see Wilkerson get stone-walled by anybody this year. *since we're talking about the bills anyway, that Kiko Alonso kid is going to be a good one. Between him, Sheldon, Eric Reid(LSU), Tyran Mathieu (LSU) and Star, it's going to be a fun race for DROY. All these guys can really play. Whens the last time, if it's ever happened, that one single team has had both the DROY and OROY? I'm curious, because that is a distinct possibility this year. IDZIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 IDZIK If we do end up getting the OROY/DROY combo, it means nothing because Goodson got arrested and we cut Peterman lol what an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 If we do end up getting the OROY/DROY combo, it means nothing because Goodson got arrested and we cut Peterman lol what an idiot Don't forget we missed out on Warmack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 IDZIK If we do end up getting the OROY/DROY combo, it means nothing because Goodson got arrested and we cut Peterman lol what an idiot I just went through the list and it's only been done once, back in 1967, the first year they kept track of the awards, by the Detroit Lions when they drafted Mel Farr (Offense) and Lem Barney (Defense). #goddamnedIdzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 If we do end up getting the OROY/DROY combo, it means nothing because Goodson got arrested and we cut Peterman lol what an idiot and yo he gave a contract to David Garrard's CORPSE yo what WHO DOES THAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I think he has a legitimate shot to be considered the best player in NY; he plays one of the most important positions outside of QB and since Eli's nosedive has made that a non-case, I think so. It's funny about Cruz, I actually think Nicks is more talented, even though he's always banged up. I think Nicks is gonna hit the market and Randle is going to take over, which he's done a pretty decent job of doing so thus far. So to answer your question, I'd say yes, he's either the best player in NY or one of a few if I'm forgetting someone. Yeah, I think Nicks is more talented than Cruz too and a guy who could be an awesome second contract player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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