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You believe none of this, you click-whoring chimp.

 

Rex Ryan will be back.  I totally believe that.  Rex has to improve in game management.  Which is surprising because he is a football guy his whole life.  I think he is so wrapped up in the defense that some game decisions suffer.  Like yesterday on 4th and 1 from the goal.  They decided to kick the field goal too late and had to take the 5 yard penalty.

 

They made the field goal but Rex should have sent the offense on the field and tried to draw the Steelers offsides.  If not, then take the penalty and kick the field goal.  Those delays cost the team.  But that can be improved up and Rex is good in so many other areas.  Now that he is talking more like a head coach should, he will get a contract extension.

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A lot of people say Idzik will want to get his guy in here.  Nobody can name who his guy is though.  And it is better for Idzik to ride Rex Ryan out for a few years.  If that doesn't work, he can fire him in 3 or 4 years and then get a coach that he chooses in here.  If he does that now and the new coach goes 6 and 10 and 4 and 12, then Idzik is looking for a job soon.

 

A GM only gets to fire one coach these days. 

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A lot of people say Idzik will want to get his guy in here.  Nobody can name who his guy is though.  And it is better for Idzik to ride Rex Ryan out for a few years.  If that doesn't work, he can fire him in 3 or 4 years and then get a coach that he chooses in here.  If he does that now and the new coach goes 6 and 10 and 4 and 12, then Idzik is looking for a job soon.

 

A GM only gets to fire one coach these days. 

 

 

None of this is true whatsoever.

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A lot of people say Idzik will want to get his guy in here.  Nobody can name who his guy is though.  And it is better for Idzik to ride Rex Ryan out for a few years.  If that doesn't work, he can fire him in 3 or 4 years and then get a coach that he chooses in here.  If he does that now and the new coach goes 6 and 10 and 4 and 12, then Idzik is looking for a job soon.

 

A GM only gets to fire one coach these days. 

Forced marriages are usualy teh worst marriages. That is what Idzik got with Ryan.

 

Not sure the length of Idziks contract, but I feel positive Ryan does not have a long leash. As Jerry Glanville reminds us "NFL stands for Not for Long", and Idzik will make moves to improve his team

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Rex better hope the defense starts causing some turnovers and making some plays....because at the end of the year sitdown....Idzik's going to ask what exactly you're bringing to the table here if the defense cant get off the field.

 

I get the guys all like Rex, but if that were the case....idk, the team did look a tad flat yesterday.

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Rex better hope the defense starts causing some turnovers and making some plays....because at the end of the year sitdown....Idzik's going to ask what exactly you're bringing to the table here if the defense cant get off the field.

 

I get the guys all like Rex, but if that were the case....idk, the team did look a tad flat yesterday.

 

The minute this team starts looking past "this week's" game, they fall on their face. They did that this week, with the buzz around Garrard's signing being that they suddenly feel they are a playoff team after beating ATL.

 

It will never matter who the coach is, who the players are, as long as the Jets are the Jets... they will always fall on their faces when the opportunity is in front of them to control their own destiny or follow-up momentum with more success.

 

Always.

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The minute this team starts looking past "this week's" game, they fall on their face. They did that this week, with the buzz around Garrard's signing being that they suddenly feel they are a playoff team after beating ATL.

 

It will never matter who the coach is, who the players are, as long as the Jets are the Jets... they will always fall on their faces when the opportunity is in front of them to control their own destiny or follow-up momentum with more success.

 

Always.

 

Games like yesterday's are natural let downs in sports. The Jets are hardly the only team this happens to. Belichick is the best of all time because you'll rarely see the Pats going through the motions. It obviously helps having Brady behind center, but he hasnt even been that good this year and they're 5-1.

 

Rex is a decent NFL Head Coach. Look around the league...and there arent too many great coaches. Rex has upside because of his defense...but we'll see if it continues to look stale as the year goes on.

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Games like yesterday's are natural let downs in sports. The Jets are hardly the only team this happens to. Belichick is the best of all time because you'll rarely see the Pats going through the motions. It obviously helps having Brady behind center, but he hasnt even been that good this year and they're 5-1.

 

Lots of teams do it, but the Jets have made doing it part of their culture. Can you think of a single season where we haven't had one or two of these games? I can't.

 

Brady behind center. Refs in the pockets.

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Lots of teams do it, but the Jets have made doing it part of their culture. Can you think of a single season where we haven't had one or two of these games? I can't.

 

Brady behind center. Refs in the pockets.

 

I dont like to whine about the officiating, but the crap that goes on at that field is so obvious its comical.

 

As far as the culture, its in most teams culture. The Giants have won two Super Bowls recently and they have let down games all the time. The Pats consistency is unreal and what really blows is that they're in our division.

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I think Rex's future is tied to the year end assessment of Geno. 

 

If the Jets are happy with Geno's progress enough to commit to moving forward with him at QB in Morninwheg's system, then Rex stays as the question becomes "who would be better at running the defense?"

 

If the Jets are looking at drafting a QB, then why not just blow the whole thing up?

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I think Rex's future is tied to the year end assessment of Geno. 

 

If the Jets are happy with Geno's progress enough to commit to moving forward with him at QB in Morninwheg's system, then Rex stays as the question becomes "who would be better at running the defense?"

 

If the Jets are looking at drafting a QB, then why not just blow the whole thing up?

We all know Rex has NOTHING to do with Geno's development, so it would be pure silly to tie his future to that quotient.

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Lots of teams do it, but the Jets have made doing it part of their culture. Can you think of a single season where we haven't had one or two of these games? I can't.

 

Brady behind center. Refs in the pockets.

 

EVERY team has one or two of these games every year, even the Pats. The Pats can mitigate it's effects because they have a great QB who is a miserable, driven prick. 

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We all know Rex has NOTHING to do with Geno's development, so it would be pure silly to tie his future to that quotient.

 

Rex has a lot to do with Geno's development. It's his in game decision making. It's his telling Morninwheg to get more conservative. If you really buy that BS that Rex has literally nothing to do with the offense you're nuts. 

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We all know Rex has NOTHING to do with Geno's development, so it would be pure silly to tie his future to that quotient.

 

 

If Geno goes on a six-game tear where he looks like Russell Wilson, he can save Rex's job simply by winning games, but I agree that Geno playing merely decently is going to be the defining criteria in keeping Rex. I think Idzik knows that the goal isn't to have a "decent" QB and a scrappy defense.

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Rex has a lot to do with Geno's development. It's his in game decision making. It's his telling Morninwheg to get more conservative. If you really buy that BS that Rex has literally nothing to do with the offense you're nuts. 

 

 

Then you could fire him this afternoon.

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I dont like to whine about the officiating, but the crap that goes on at that field is so obvious its comical.

 

As far as the culture, its in most teams culture. The Giants have won two Super Bowls recently and they have let down games all the time. The Pats consistency is unreal and what really blows is that they're in our division.

 

 

No, the Giants culture is multiple SBs. 

 

The ONLY thing the Jets have historically done well is deliver 2-3 let down games per year, just at those moments where they are just about to appear legit to the broader NFL fanbase. 

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EVERY team has one or two of these games every year, even the Pats. The Pats can mitigate it's effects because they have a great QB who is a miserable, driven prick. 

 

The Pats culture is winning 14 games a year. They don't have let-down games, they just lose a couple times a year.

 

Let down games are the ones where you should win, and everyone starts believing you are legit, and you can take control of your own destiny, and you lay an egg... making it undeniable that you've done nothing more than over-achieve in your other victories.

 

That's something the Jets have become expert in doing.  Not the Pats, not the Giants, not any team with a legacy of winning.

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What Happened: Rex Ryan took a chance, using "zero" coverage (no deep safety), and he got burned. On a third-and-1, the Jets sold out to stop the run, with safety Dawan Landry near the line of scrimmage. Roethlisberger froze the defense with a hard play-fake to running back Le'Veon Bell. Cornerback Antonio Cromartie was in man-to-man coverage on Sanders and he made three mistakes. He peeked into the backfield, expecting a run. He let Sanders make an inside move on him -- a no-no when there's no deep safety. Finally, Cromartie didn't get his hips turned fast enough, allowing Sanders to blow by him. Sanders was wide open for an easy pitch and catch.

 

Rex uses "zero" coverage way too much. Cro is injured yet he took this chance yesterday. Defensive genius or surrounded by good defensive players?

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The Pats culture is winning 14 games a year. They don't have let-down games, they just lose a couple times a year.

 

Let down games are the ones where you should win, and everyone starts believing you are legit, and you can take control of your own destiny, and you lay an egg... making it undeniable that you've done nothing more than over-achieve in your other victories.

 

That's something the Jets have become expert in doing.  Not the Pats, not the Giants, not any team with a legacy of winning.

Rex's greatest liability is the seeming inability to keep a team on an even keel. Dramatic highs and dramatic lows. And they never ride either wave particularly long.

 

Rex seems unable to put a 4-5 game stretch together of inspired play, which it will take to win a Super Bowl.

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Rex's greatest liability is the seeming inability to keep a team on an even keel. Dramatic highs and dramatic lows. And they never ride either wave particularly long.

 

Rex seems unable to put a 4-5 game stretch together of inspired play, which it will take to win a Super Bowl.

 

Happens with teams built with defense first. Way more unpredictability week to week.

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The Pats culture is winning 14 games a year. They don't have let-down games, they just lose a couple times a year.

 

Let down games are the ones where you should win, and everyone starts believing you are legit, and you can take control of your own destiny, and you lay an egg... making it undeniable that you've done nothing more than over-achieve in your other victories.

 

That's something the Jets have become expert in doing.  Not the Pats, not the Giants, not any team with a legacy of winning.

 

 

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No, just pointing out how completely ridiculous to think that an NFL head coach is not involved in any way in half of the team's gameplanning.

So you're saying he helped Schottenheimer and Sparano with their game plans? How come those guys took all the blame?

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The Pats culture is winning 14 games a year. They don't have let-down games, they just lose a couple times a year.

 

Let down games are the ones where you should win, and everyone starts believing you are legit, and you can take control of your own destiny, and you lay an egg... making it undeniable that you've done nothing more than over-achieve in your other victories.

 

That's something the Jets have become expert in doing.  Not the Pats, not the Giants, not any team with a legacy of winning.

I dream of the day when Brady retires and/or Bellichek leaves our division.  Until then, we're basically competing for a wildcard every year

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:face:

 

Facepalming doesn't make it untrue.

 

You want to have a conversation about let-down games, then don't bring up 2 of the most successful franchises of the past 10 years. 

 

Let-down games are those played by teams that are perennially trying to turn the corner. Go from "rebuilding" or aspiring to successful. You can't point to the 2-3 games a year the Patriots lose and call them let-down games. It's absurd. You can point to the games the Jets play, when they have a chance to re-shuffle the division, or take control of their own destiny in the playoff hunt, and they face an inferior team and they blow it. Come out dead flat, uninspired and get pushed around.

 

Those are games the Jets have made part of EVERY single season. Even the years we go to the playoffs, before we backed in in Rex's first year, we had a huge let-down game where Rex came out after and talked about how we were eliminated. Then the Colts gifted us a wildcard spot.

 

Let-down games are as much a part of Jets tradition as anything else.

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Facepalming doesn't make it untrue.

 

You want to have a conversation about let-down games, then don't bring up 2 of the most successful franchises of the past 10 years. 

 

Let-down games are those played by teams that are perennially trying to turn the corner. Go from "rebuilding" or aspiring to successful. You can't point to the 2-3 games a year the Patriots lose and call them let-down games. It's absurd. You can point to the games the Jets play, when they have a chance to re-shuffle the division, or take control of their own destiny in the playoff hunt, and they face an inferior team and they blow it. Come out dead flat, uninspired and get pushed around.

 

Those are games the Jets have made part of EVERY single season. Even the years we go to the playoffs, before we backed in in Rex's first year, we had a huge let-down game where Rex came out after and talked about how we were eliminated. Then the Colts gifted us a wildcard spot.

 

Let-down games are as much a part of Jets tradition as anything else.

 

 

Yes, you're right, the Jets are the only team that ever has "let-down" games. :face:

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Yes, you're right, the Jets are the only team that ever has "let-down" games. :face:

 

You aren't paying attention. I said the Jets are a team that has made let-down games part of it's culture. Teams that have multiple SB, especially recent ones, don't really get identified by let-down games. They get identified by winning. The Jets embody let-down... it's like a timeless tradition for us. 

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