flgreen Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Jets and Vikings GMs In Attendance To Watch Teddy Bridgewater’s First Loss BY ERNIE PADAON - OCT 18TH, 2013 AT 11:47 PM Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater is one of the top players that will be available for the draft this offseason and quarterback hungry teams will want to get their chance to scout him out. The New York Jets GM John Idzik and Minnesota Vikings GM Rick Spielman were on hand tonight to see Teddy take his first loss of the season to the University of Central Florida Knights, per Rick Bozich. Bridgewater performed much better than last week, but the game ended with an ‘L’ and the team’s National Championship hopes are now done. Bridgewater’s Heisman hopes are likely over as well. He finished the game going 29-of-38 for 341 yards and a couple of touchdowns with no interceptions. Interesting that the Jets GM was out at the game. I wonder how that makes Geno Smith feel? Do we even care what Mark Sanchez thinks? The Vikings just brought in Josh Freeman, but I could see the team looking into other quarterback options in the draft. Freeman still has to prove himself on Monday Night for the team. Topics: Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets, NFL Draft, Teddy Bridgewater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Idzik is jinxing Louisville now also? ******* guy is the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 geno has been kinda crappy so far. this team needs a qb badly. also a top flight receiver and, inexplicably, still needs help defensively (secondary mostly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 the jags will take him with the #1 pick, we need recivers bad i still say give the browns two 3rds one this year one next year for Gordon and draft a WR with our 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Bridgewater is a pipe dream. Idzik may have been putting in some due diligence there, but it's more likely that he wanted to see Blake Bortles play against a higher level of competition. Also could have been evaluating Charlie Strong as an interview candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 the jags will take him with the #1 pick, Geno was not going to be there when we picked either. I like Geno's progress so far but hey-why not keep the options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Geno was not going to be there when we picked either. I like Geno's progress so far but hey-why not keep the options open. teams like the jags and vikes and now the texans all will be looking for a new QB even if we wanted him it wont happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Bridgewater = Geno. Would that be a fair statement? Never having seen Teddy play, how would you compare them coming out? Arm strength, accuracy, running ability, reading D's and competition level. If he's about what Geno is then I don't waste the high pick on a QB.... maybe get a 5th rd. developmental player or UDFA Qb. We need receivers, safeties and an OLB. Might be nice to get a back up Center to learn from Mangold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Bridgewater is a pipe dream. Idzik may have been putting in some due diligence there, but it's more likely that he wanted to see Blake Bortles play against a higher level of competition. Also could have been evaluating Charlie Strong as an interview candidate. Charlie Strong is going back to Florida when Muscramp is fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 If he's about what Geno is then I don't waste the high pick on a QB.... maybe get a 5th rd. developmental player or UDFA Qb. We need receivers, safeties and an OLB. Might be nice to get a back up Center to learn from Mangold. The Jets are probably only going to have Geno under contract at the position next year. Matt Simms is an EFA, so they have dibs on him if they want him, but QB should really be something of a priority position for the Jets next year. There were a number of well rated QBs who went in the fourth round this year, and with the potential of an extra third and fourth rounder next year, that middle part of the draft wouldn't be a bad place to look for a quality developmental guy. If Geno finishes the year with 40 turnovers, you probably start looking a little higher. Lol. This trip by Idzik could be a subtle message to him, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Bridgewater = Geno. Would that be a fair statement? Never having seen Teddy play, how would you compare them coming out? Arm strength, accuracy, running ability, reading D's and competition level. If he's about what Geno is then I don't waste the high pick on a QB.... maybe get a 5th rd. developmental player or UDFA Qb. We need receivers, safeties and an OLB. Might be nice to get a back up Center to learn from Mangold. Bridgewater does not = Geno Geno was the 39th pick in the draft. Played out of an air raid Offense. Never played under center. Bridgewater will be the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft. That's about as fair a comparison as it gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Bridgewater does not = Geno Geno was the 39th pick in the draft. Played out of an air raid Offense. Never played under center. Bridgewater will be the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft. That's about as fair a comparison as it gets + 1 Bridgewater is pretty much polished. Great attitude, intelligent, makes all the throws, and has that "can run but doesn't need to" ability. He's put up huge numbers, even when his team loses. He's not can't-miss but he's not going to drop like Geno did. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 + 1 Bridgewater is pretty much polished. Great attitude, intelligent, makes all the throws, and has that "can run but doesn't need to" ability. He's put up huge numbers, even when his team loses. He's not can't-miss but he's not going to drop like Geno did. Not even close. And last year around this time people were saying the same thing about Geno. He was a clear cut #1 pick in the draft last year at this time. I have watched Bridgewater play, I see someone very similar to Geno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I don't buy that Bridgewater is a better prospect than Smith, BUT his advantage in size and playing in a more conventional/traditional system will get him easily viewed as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Louisville was top 10 and UCF is strong. Don't you think there was a possibility he was scouting others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Wh Bridgewater does not = Geno Geno was the 39th pick in the draft. Played out of an air raid Offense. Never played under center. Bridgewater will be the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft. That's about as fair a comparison as it gets Where do you all think Johnny Football goes? Think teams are scared off by his size and attitude? If he fell to us in the 1st would you grab him? Only have seen ESPN highlights of him. Fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Wh Where do you all think Johnny Football goes? Think teams are scared off by his size and attitude? If he fell to us in the 1st would you grab him? Only have seen ESPN highlights of him. Fun to watch. Kid is an exciting player, but no I would not take him in the first. Dealing with a head case at WR is one thing, at QB. No thanks. Somebody will probably take him late 1st. Hope it's not the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Idzik is jinxing Louisville now also? ******* guy is the worstLOL I don't know why but it was the first thing to cross my mind too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Geno is a 2nd round pick and the team doesn't have enough invested in him to not draft a QB, if the right one is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Geno is a 2nd round pick and the team doesn't have enough invested in him to not draft a QB, if the right one is available. I like Geno a lot, but this is dead-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I was watching the S. Carolina Tenn. game. I like the S.C. Qb. Strong arm, good wheels and gritty. Could see him going in the 5th rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 20 bucks the Oregon kid goes before Teddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geno is a 2nd round pick and the team doesn't have enough invested in him to not draft a QB, if the right one is available. Geno was consensus top ten, maybe top five pick right up to the draft-hence all the hoopla about him not coming back the second day of the draft. About 10 days before the draft we started hearing weird stories about him, including one ridiculous one where he sat in a room full of potential draftees and didn't circulate and sell himself to the team. And here I thought that NFL teams interview their first round prospects intensively-not throw them into a room and see who stands out the most. That's when Geno suddenly dropped mysteriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 + 1 Bridgewater is pretty much polished. Great attitude, intelligent, makes all the throws, and has that "can run but doesn't need to" ability. He's put up huge numbers, even when his team loses. He's not can't-miss but he's not going to drop like Geno did. Not even close. They are different in many ways, but they are similar because they both put up big numbers against bad defenses. Even if Louisville went undefeated, they'd be a hard sell for a BCS game because they have such a weak schedule. So while he is a good QB and he puts up good numbers, playing weaker teams sure helps. And it's also kind of what Geno did in many ways. Easy to put up great numbers against bad defenses. I doubt Teddy drops so far, but I'm not sold on this kid will be great just because. He has just as many question marks as Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geno was consensus top ten, maybe top five pick right up to the draft-hence all the hoopla about him not coming back the second day of the draft. About 10 days before the draft we started hearing weird stories about him, including one ridiculous one where he sat in a room full of potential draftees and didn't circulate and sell himself to the team. And here I thought that NFL teams interview their first round prospects intensively-not throw them into a room and see who stands out the most. That's when Geno suddenly dropped mysteriously. Smith fell because the NFL scriptwriters wrote it to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Still doesn't explain what Idzik was doing there. I heard here that he was accountant Tannenbaum part II, who also knew nothing about scouting football players. Maybe he just went there for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 + 1 Bridgewater is pretty much polished. Great attitude, intelligent, makes all the throws, and has that "can run but doesn't need to" ability. He's put up huge numbers, even when his team loses. He's not can't-miss but he's not going to drop like Geno did. Not even close. He won't drop, but he might get passed, and be the 2nd QB off the board if Mariota declares for the draft, dude is going to put up combine numbers like Stephen Hill, but with actual production to back it up, and at QB not WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Wh Where do you all think Johnny Football goes? Think teams are scared off by his size and attitude? If he fell to us in the 1st would you grab him? Only have seen ESPN highlights of him. Fun to watch. Johnny Football will be Doug Fluttie on steroids, kid has it all, arm strength, vision, leadership, elusive, pocket prescence, and accuracy! And the most important thing which is getting mistaken IMO for a bad attitude, is his fierce competitive nature like Tom Brady, with a little maturity it will be corralled in to look more like Brady's looks then the immature way it looks now. He also can run like a RB, and weave like a NBA PG if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geno is a 2nd round pick and the team doesn't have enough invested in him to not draft a QB, if the right one is available. Exactly, I just hope they don't treat him as the 1st overall pick the media acts like he is, to think K Clemens was picked higher by the Jets than G Smith, and never sniffed the attention this guy has gotten, goes to show you how much the media, and the NFL has evolved over the last 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geno was consensus top ten, maybe top five pick right up to the draft-hence all the hoopla about him not coming back the second day of the draft. About 10 days before the draft we started hearing weird stories about him, including one ridiculous one where he sat in a room full of potential draftees and didn't circulate and sell himself to the team. And here I thought that NFL teams interview their first round prospects intensively-not throw them into a room and see who stands out the most. That's when Geno suddenly dropped mysteriously. Incorrect, Geno fell to the 2nd round after his lackluster performances against KState, and OK St. Then the Syracuse game sealed the deal as a sure fire 2nd round pick, and if he didn't do as well as he did at the combine he might have fell to the 3rd round, and wouldn't get drafted until the 4th if he was in this years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Incorrect, Geno fell to the 2nd round after his lackluster performances against KState, and OK St. Then the Syracuse game sealed the deal as a sure fire 2nd round pick, and if he didn't do as well as he did at the combine he might have fell to the 3rd round, and wouldn't get drafted until the 4th if he was in this years draft. Truth. There is a great disconnect between the higher-level scouting community and the draft media. The draft media are generally idiots who cut and paste everyone else's work in February and call it "scouting." Go look at any draft site right now and see how many draft profiles are up. Next to none, because they're all waiting for the Kiper and Mayock to tell them which players on these teams will actually be drafted. These are the same clowns who had Ryan Nassib as a top-ten pick the day of the draft, and they're the same dolts who were pondering whether Tajh Boyd would be the first overall pick three weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Still doesn't explain what Idzik was doing there. I heard here that he was accountant Tannenbaum part II, who also knew nothing about scouting football players. Maybe he just went there for fun. opening week @ Church Hill Downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geno was consensus top ten, maybe top five pick right up to the draft-hence all the hoopla about him not coming back the second day of the draft. he was never consensus top ten or top five. Most drafts had him dropping to buffalo at 12. But where a player is supposed to go and where a player does actually go are hugely different. All that matters is his contract and Geno's isn't big enough to pass on a QB if the right one is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Truth. There is a great disconnect between the higher-level scouting community and the draft media. The draft media are generally idiots who cut and paste everyone else's work in February and call it "scouting." Go look at any draft site right now and see how many draft profiles are up. Next to none, because they're all waiting for the Kiper and Mayock to tell them which players on these teams will actually be drafted. These are the same clowns who had Ryan Nassib as a top-ten pick the day of the draft, and they're the same dolts who were pondering whether Tajh Boyd would be the first overall pick three weeks ago. Yup. and also the same idiots who don't (some not all) have Mariota, Hundley, and Brandin Cooks even on their draft boards, sure all 3 could go back to school, but if your going to run a draft site, or even talk, or write an article claiming to know about who will get draft you have to at least mention these guys with astericks, or something. Not to mention Jace Amaro hasn't even gotten noticed yet, with a good combine he will be a late 1st to early 2nd, and none of those guys even talk about him, or list him. I hope for Boyd's sake he doesn't show up for the draft, his "draft day fall" might be the worst of them all if he continues to get touted as a 1st rounder considering the amount of better talented QB's that could declare for the draft this year, Geno just got lucky he was in the worst QB class of the last 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Johnny Football will be Doug Fluttie on steroids, kid has it all, arm strength, vision, leadership, elusive, pocket prescence, and accuracy! And the most important thing which is getting mistaken IMO for a bad attitude, is his fierce competitive nature like Tom Brady, with a little maturity it will be corralled in to look more like Brady's looks then the immature way it looks now. He also can run like a RB, and weave like a NBA PG if that makes sense. He could be a bust just as easily. His immaturity comes into question because of his arrogance and attitude. It's easy if you put up big numbers, win and nobody cares if you win or lose. Look at his team now. People will still be excited if they win a bowl game. Nobody expected them to compete for a Championship. So expectations are just about him making plays and putting up big numbers. What happens with his immaturity once he's expected to be the savior and win. We see good players like Cam newton who put up decent numbers so far, but it's year 3 and he's still on that "will he really be a superstar that can lead a team to the playoffs." And he has that "do what he wants" attitude that went back to college. Years ago, Vince Young was a god at Texas, and he became a guy who didn't even want to live at a point. It might be nothing, but if he winds up on a team who goes 3-13, will he become another VY or will he learn how to deal with his issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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