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#26 Sperm Edwards

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 07:54 AM

Still doesn't explain what Idzik was doing there.  I heard here that he was accountant Tannenbaum part II, who also knew nothing about scouting football players.  Maybe he just went there for fun.  


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:09 AM

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Bridgewater is pretty much polished.  Great attitude, intelligent, makes all the throws, and has that "can run but doesn't need to" ability.  He's put up huge numbers, even when his team loses.  He's not can't-miss but he's not going to drop like Geno did.  Not even close.

 

He won't drop, but he might get passed, and be the 2nd QB off the board if Mariota declares for the draft, dude is going to put up combine numbers like Stephen Hill, but with actual production to back it up, and at QB not WR.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:14 AM

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Where do you all think Johnny Football goes? Think teams are scared off by his size and attitude? If he fell to us in the 1st would you grab him?

Only have seen ESPN highlights of him. Fun to watch.

 

Johnny Football will be Doug Fluttie on steroids, kid has it all, arm strength, vision, leadership, elusive, pocket prescence, and accuracy!  And the most important thing which is getting mistaken IMO for a bad attitude, is his fierce competitive nature like Tom Brady, with a little maturity it will be corralled in to look more like Brady's looks then the immature way it looks now.  He also can run like a RB, and weave like a NBA PG if that makes sense.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:17 AM

Geno is a 2nd round pick and the team doesn't have enough invested in him to not draft a QB, if the right one is available. 

 

Exactly, I just hope they don't treat him as the 1st overall pick the media acts like he is, to think K Clemens was picked higher by the Jets than G Smith, and never sniffed the attention this guy has gotten, goes to show you how much the media, and the NFL has evolved over the last 7 years.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:21 AM

Geno was consensus top ten, maybe top five pick right up to the draft-hence all the hoopla about him not coming back the second day of the draft.

 

About 10 days before the draft we started hearing weird stories about him, including one ridiculous one where he sat in a room full of potential draftees and didn't circulate and sell himself to the team.  And here I thought that NFL teams interview their first round prospects intensively-not throw them into a room and see who stands out the most.

 

That's when Geno suddenly dropped mysteriously.

 

Incorrect, Geno fell to the 2nd round after his lackluster performances against KState, and OK St.  Then the Syracuse game sealed the deal as a sure fire 2nd round pick, and if he didn't do as well as he did at the combine he might have fell to the 3rd round, and wouldn't get drafted until the 4th if he was in this years draft.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:32 AM

Incorrect, Geno fell to the 2nd round after his lackluster performances against KState, and OK St. Then the Syracuse game sealed the deal as a sure fire 2nd round pick, and if he didn't do as well as he did at the combine he might have fell to the 3rd round, and wouldn't get drafted until the 4th if he was in this years draft.



Truth. There is a great disconnect between the higher-level scouting community and the draft media. The draft media are generally idiots who cut and paste everyone else's work in February and call it "scouting." Go look at any draft site right now and see how many draft profiles are up. Next to none, because they're all waiting for the Kiper and Mayock to tell them which players on these teams will actually be drafted. These are the same clowns who had Ryan Nassib as a top-ten pick the day of the draft, and they're the same dolts who were pondering whether Tajh Boyd would be the first overall pick three weeks ago.
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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:13 AM

Still doesn't explain what Idzik was doing there.  I heard here that he was accountant Tannenbaum part II, who also knew nothing about scouting football players.  Maybe he just went there for fun.  

 

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:20 AM

Geno was consensus top ten, maybe top five pick right up to the draft-hence all the hoopla about him not coming back the second day of the draft.

 

 

he was never consensus top ten or top five. Most drafts had him dropping to buffalo at 12. But where a player is supposed to go and where a player does actually go are hugely different. All that matters is his contract and Geno's isn't big enough to pass on a QB if the right one is there. 


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:23 AM

Truth. There is a great disconnect between the higher-level scouting community and the draft media. The draft media are generally idiots who cut and paste everyone else's work in February and call it "scouting." Go look at any draft site right now and see how many draft profiles are up. Next to none, because they're all waiting for the Kiper and Mayock to tell them which players on these teams will actually be drafted. These are the same clowns who had Ryan Nassib as a top-ten pick the day of the draft, and they're the same dolts who were pondering whether Tajh Boyd would be the first overall pick three weeks ago.

 

 

Yup. and also the same idiots who don't (some not all) have Mariota, Hundley, and Brandin Cooks even on their draft boards, sure all 3 could go back to school, but if your going to run a draft site, or even talk, or write an article claiming to know about who will get draft you have to at least mention these guys with astericks, or something.  Not to mention Jace Amaro hasn't even gotten noticed yet, with a good combine he will be a late 1st to early 2nd, and none of those guys even talk about him, or list him.

 

I hope for Boyd's sake he doesn't show up for the draft, his "draft day fall" might be the worst of them all if he continues to get touted as a 1st rounder considering the amount of better talented QB's that could declare for the draft this year, Geno just got lucky he was in the worst QB class of the last 5 years.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:01 PM

Johnny Football will be Doug Fluttie on steroids, kid has it all, arm strength, vision, leadership, elusive, pocket prescence, and accuracy!  And the most important thing which is getting mistaken IMO for a bad attitude, is his fierce competitive nature like Tom Brady, with a little maturity it will be corralled in to look more like Brady's looks then the immature way it looks now.  He also can run like a RB, and weave like a NBA PG if that makes sense.

 

  He could be a bust just as easily.   His immaturity comes into question because of his arrogance and attitude.  It's easy if you put up big numbers, win and nobody cares if you win or lose.  Look at his team now.  People will still be excited if they win a bowl game.  Nobody expected them to compete for a Championship.  So expectations are just about him making plays and putting up big numbers.    What happens with his immaturity once he's expected to be the savior and win.    We see good players like Cam newton who put up decent numbers so far, but it's year 3 and he's still on that "will he really be a superstar that can lead a team to the playoffs."  And he has that "do what he wants" attitude that went back to college.        Years ago, Vince Young was a god at Texas,  and he became a guy who didn't even want to live at a point.     

 

  It might be nothing, but if he winds up on a team who goes 3-13, will he become another VY or will he learn how to deal with his issues?


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:29 PM

  He could be a bust just as easily.   His immaturity comes into question because of his arrogance and attitude.  It's easy if you put up big numbers, win and nobody cares if you win or lose.  Look at his team now.  People will still be excited if they win a bowl game.  Nobody expected them to compete for a Championship.  So expectations are just about him making plays and putting up big numbers.    What happens with his immaturity once he's expected to be the savior and win.    We see good players like Cam newton who put up decent numbers so far, but it's year 3 and he's still on that "will he really be a superstar that can lead a team to the playoffs."  And he has that "do what he wants" attitude that went back to college.        Years ago, Vince Young was a god at Texas,  and he became a guy who didn't even want to live at a point.     

 

  It might be nothing, but if he winds up on a team who goes 3-13, will he become another VY or will he learn how to deal with his issues?

 

I thought me comparing him to Tom Brady showed that IMO everything you just said I disagree with.


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