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Text book violation of the rule which ref called immediately.

Mike Pereira said refs this week were shown instructional video on exact type play so they were looking for it.

I'm not gonna poo all over the win because it was great, but that call was horrific in context.

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Text book violation of the rule which ref called immediately.

Mike Pereira said refs this week were shown instructional video on exact type play so they were looking for it.

 

I imagine most Jets fans would feel this way if the call were on the Jets.

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I imagine most Jets fans would feel this way if the call were on the Jets.

Jet fans would be pissed just as Pat fans are now.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of the penalty which was a textbook violation of the rule.

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I'm not gonna poo all over the win because it was great, but that call was horrific in context.

 

I'd rather a ref call that play correctly and have the NFL deal with the fallout than the back-judge getting shielded by a player on Hill's TD and making a call purely on McCourty's reaction and not on what he saw.  That call was a pure educated guess and even if you think it's PI, you swallow your whistle unless you actually see it. Game should have been over.

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I'm not gonna poo all over the win because it was great, but that call was horrific in context.

 

I'd still be beyond pissed if that happened to us, I don't want that to get lost in the wash. It's a tough call to take, but considering the bogus PI call, I'll take it.

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I'm not gonna poo all over the win because it was great, but that call was horrific in context.

"Context"?

So if the rook went Billy Blanks/Last Boy Scout to stop the kick any penalty would be "horrific" because of "context"?

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I'm not gonna poo all over the win because it was great, but that call was horrific in context.

i agree, if your talking about that TD pass to hill that was called a push off. that was the worst call soo far of the year. the DB's momentum of being out of position is what made it look like a push off. the WR just felt where the DB was, all WR do that. what a terrible terrible call that could of and should of cost the JETS the game.

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I'd rather a ref call that play correctly and have the NFL deal with the fallout than the back-judge getting shielded by a player on Hill's TD and making a call purely on McCourty's reaction and not on what he saw.  That call was a pure educated guess and even if you think it's PI, you swallow your whistle unless you actually see it. Game should have been over.

Plus, the difference here is that the ref saw it immediately and threw the flag while the ball was still in the air. The ref saw a glaring violation and called it.

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Jet fans would be pissed just as Pat fans are now.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of the penalty which was a textbook violation of the rule.

 

Agreed.  Still kind of nonsense, as it had no effect on the play.

 

Will take it, and it was the right call, but wow.  Definitely Patriot'd the Patriots with that one.

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Jesus Christ. That was a horrendous call. That's a td no question.

I agree. i was mad as hell . that was a TD all day  Sunday, Monday and thursday. the DB was out of position and is why he was     moving where he was moving . that was not a push off. that was a feel.  I went crazy over that call. i still cant   get over it . makes me wonder, heck makes me know the league  wants brady to  succeed.  without a doubt that was a call to try to create a dramatic finish for brady like the saints game. I really really do feel that way.

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Agreed. Still kind of nonsense, as it had no effect on the play.

Will take it, and it was the right call, but wow. Definitely Patriot'd the Patriots with that one.

Yeah, Im not defending whether it is a good rule or not.

Im just pointing out that it was a glaring violationof a rule the refs were instructed this week to enforce.

Like you said, bout time Patriots got done in by the refs.

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Yeah, Im not defending whether it is a good rule or not.

Im just pointing out that it was a glaring violationof a rule the refs were instructed this week to enforce.

Like you said, bout time Patriots got done in by the refs.

 

Immediately thought of lienart/reggie bush.

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I'm not gonna poo all over the win because it was great, but that call was horrific in context.

Not as horrific as the PI call. If that was correctly called in the first place this discussion doesn't happen

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Yeah, Im not defending whether it is a good rule or not.

Im just pointing out that it was a glaring violationof a rule the refs were instructed this week to enforce.

Like you said, bout time Patriots got done in by the refs.

 

The thing that really gets me about it though, is the call on Hill was bogus, fine, but KT had one a half dozen plays later where he actually extends his arms on an incompletion and it's a no call.  The same KT who won the saints game on a blatant push off. Now pats' fans get to play high and mighty and say they never get any calls, just because one finally goes against them.

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Lmfao. You cant be serious.

We have a QB. Whether you like it or not doesnt really matter because its true. Not clutch? That pass to Hill was dead on the money yo ice the game and pats get bs PI call, which was made up for in OT.

His accuracy is great and his poise is unquestionable. If youre not feeling good about what this kid has done you wont feel good about anyone.

Sorry but I've got to agree with Pedro on this one Amigo. To me it was obvious that the Jets did NOT want Geno putting the ball in the air and getting a pick deep in Jets territory or worse, a pick six. He managed the drive well at the end by handing off . Of course the penalty was the determining factor in the win. Smith has shown signs from time to time but he's still a rookie and at this time just needs to manage the team. I still recall last years 2nd half when he was a disaster for WV.

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WE HAVE A QB

i think we do have a QB. because Geno really doesnt have no game breaker weapons and he's moving the chains and getting it in the end zone. get him a megatron and with this Defense we can be contenders for sure.

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Yeah, Im not defending whether it is a good rule or not.

Im just pointing out that it was a glaring violation of a rule the refs were instructed this week to enforce.

Like you said, bout time Patriots got done in by the refs.

An obscure rule but none the less a rule. He obviously pushed #74 forward and he popped thru the line although it didn't effect the kick at all. I liked the fact that the ref called it immediately , no hesitation at all.  As others have said it's bout time a ref bites the Pats in the butt.

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Sorry but I've got to agree with Pedro on this one Amigo. To me it was obvious that the Jets did NOT want Geno putting the ball in the air and getting a pick deep in Jets territory or worse, a pick six. He managed the drive well at the end by handing off . Of course the penalty was the determining factor in the win. Smith has shown signs from time to time but he's still a rookie and at this time just needs to manage the team. I still recall last years 2nd half when he was a disaster for WV.

Dont see how you can call him a "game manager" after that game. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

He played great today. If cumberland doesnt drop thst perfect pass on sideline or Steven Hill td isnt waived off and this is not even a conversation.

Just hope he keeps getting better!

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OK.. GO JETS BWHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

U must be talking about the flag on the long FG attempt, i know u not talking about the TD pass    that was called back for pushing off.  Ive seen Megatron , Andre Johnson , Dez, etc use there hands and body more then that to get seperation.

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Geno is awesome

 

Rex needs to pull his weight with the defense 

 

Yeah, the defense gave up 20 points today. WTF is wrong with them? How many teams gave up 20 or more points this week? 1, maybe 2? Plus the offense they were facing is a bunch of nobodies... Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski.. who are those guys? Heard one of them is a UDFA.

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Dont see how you can call him a "game manager" after that game. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

He played great today. If cumberland doesnt drop thst perfect pass on sideline or Steven Hill td isnt waived off and this is not even a conversation.

Just hope he keeps getting better!

 

 

His zip on the ball and ability to make all the throws make the many growing pains acceptable at this point. He shows tons of physical ability and if the mind part follows he will be a good one.

 

I do think our OC is the biggest difference in our passing game however.  

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His zip on the ball and ability to make all the throws make the many growing pains acceptable at this point. He shows tons of physical ability and if the mind part follows he will be a good one.

I do think our OC is the biggest difference in our passing game however.

Oh I agree man! Thats why im scared if they move Rex, Marty is out and I think he is PERFECT for developing Geno.

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No way...def didnt mean for that to be an excuse for Sanchez man! Geno is head and shoulders above him physically and mentally. Its already obvious.

I like Marty and his playcalling tho.

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Dont see how you can call him a "game manager" after that game. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

He played great today. If cumberland doesnt drop thst perfect pass on sideline or Steven Hill td isnt waived off and this is not even a conversation.

Just hope he keeps getting better!

 

He played ok today, he wasn't great.  Maybe he looked great compared to last week, but the Jets handed the ball off to Ivory 34 times,  and they held onto the ball. 

Clutch isn't handing the ball off.  Mark Sanchez could be called Clutch then back in 2009 and 2010 when the team made AFC Championship games because of their defense and running game.   Today was the old school ground and pound.    As far as the PI on Hill, it is what it is.  It was a cheap call, but I've seen crappy things like that happen all the time to many teams.   He pushed off, the refs saw it, and made the call.   Some players get away with it, some don't.   I'm not into blaming refs like most non objective fans of most teams seem to do all the time.  At the end of the day, a penalty flag could be thrown on every play.  Sometimes you get a break, sometimes you don't. Blaming the refs is just a weak argument.

 

  Back to Geno, I was impressed he stayed composed after that Pick 6.  But the team won today because they rushed the ball well enough to hold onto the ball and the defense was pretty much lights out against the Pats offense in the second half.  Hell they played well in the first half.    This is the one issue I have around Rex's teams.  They seem to be a team who needs the defense to play lights out or they'll probably lose.   When your defense holds Tom Brady to 200+ yards passing and 0 TDs and gets a Pick 6 off of him,  it's a pretty damn good game.    If they don't get that Pick 6, they probably lose this game. Probably get blown out.   It was a game changer.  

 

 He seems to be improving, but at the same time, people overreacting like he played a great game today is why most people get depressed if he winds up struggling next week against a good defense.   He did what he had to do and that's good, but the OC was a big reason this team won the game.   And it says a lot that the Coaches didn't think much of Geno throwing the ball in OT.  I mean they weren't really even in FG range and ran it up the middle.  They just got lucky because of a penalty, but they didn't even want to try a 5-6 yard pass to gain a few more yards.  That says a lot about how clutch the guy is and how clutch the coaches think he is.   You need about 10 yards to get into a safe FG range and you just run the ball up the gut 3 times.   Obviously nobody on the Jets staff thought he was clutch enough to even do that.   

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He played ok today, he wasn't great. Maybe he looked great compared to last week, but the Jets handed the ball off to Ivory 34 times, and they held onto the ball.

Clutch isn't handing the ball off. Mark Sanchez could be called Clutch then back in 2009 and 2010 when the team made AFC Championship games because of their defense and running game. Today was the old school ground and pound. As far as the PI on Hill, it is what it is. It was a cheap call, but I've seen crappy things like that happen all the time to many teams. He pushed off, the refs saw it, and made the call. Some players get away with it, some don't. I'm not into blaming refs like most non objective fans of most teams seem to do all the time. At the end of the day, a penalty flag could be thrown on every play. Sometimes you get a break, sometimes you don't. Blaming the refs is just a weak argument.

Back to Geno, I was impressed he stayed composed after that Pick 6. But the team won today because they rushed the ball well enough to hold onto the ball and the defense was pretty much lights out against the Pats offense in the second half. Hell they played well in the first half. This is the one issue I have around Rex's teams. They seem to be a team who needs the defense to play lights out or they'll probably lose. When your defense holds Tom Brady to 200+ yards passing and 0 TDs and gets a Pick 6 off of him, it's a pretty damn good game. If they don't get that Pick 6, they probably lose this game. Probably get blown out. It was a game changer.

He seems to be improving, but at the same time, people overreacting like he played a great game today is why most people get depressed if he winds up struggling next week against a good defense. He did what he had to do and that's good, but the OC was a big reason this team won the game. And it says a lot that the Coaches didn't think much of Geno throwing the ball in OT. I mean they weren't really even in FG range and ran it up the middle. They just got lucky because of a penalty, but they didn't even want to try a 5-6 yard pass to gain a few more yards. That says a lot about how clutch the guy is and how clutch the coaches think he is. You need about 10 yards to get into a safe FG range and you just run the ball up the gut 3 times. Obviously nobody on the Jets staff thought he was clutch enough to even do that.

But isnt that on the coaches then? Geno has been somewhat clutxh for us wouldnt you say?

I agree with you that they should have attempted a pass in OT. In my opinion Geno has shown an ability to make big time throws and we saw them today. The Hill pass in the 4th and the Cumberland pass in the 4th were great passes that had sh*tty results.

I wish they trusted him more but I get why they dont because hes so young.

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