Bush Fans

[The Gun Of Bavaria]

Can Reggie Bush play defense?

Just curious because after watching the Patriots defense rumble on for 31 straight plays, I'm wondering how good he's going to look sitting on the bench while the defense gives up 44+ minutes in time of posession.

[stormshadow19]

Guns... Reggie Bush can walk on water. Of course he can play defense! Line him up at the Nose!

[Smizzy]

Im pretty sure he can coach this team also. He sh*ts liquid gold so anything is possible.

[RSJ]

Well I hope he can draft offensive line as well as all of the above.

[Jetheelz]

Damn, thought this was about the band Bush.

Their lead singer is married to Gwen Stefani, after all.

Seriously though, wouldn't it be our luck if we did somehow (and I mean by the occurance of a great miracle) have the chance to draft Reggie Bush, only to see him on the bench behind Curtis.

Don't tell me it wouldn't happen because chances are it would.

But like I said, we won't get him.

[The Gun Of Bavaria]

Im pretty sure he can coach this team also. He sh*ts liquid gold so anything is possible.

[Smizzy]

How come every thread you post in smells like bacon?

[The Gun Of Bavaria]

How come every thread you post in smells like bacon?

Close your legs

[Jetheelz]

Close your legs

Are we still talking about Bush?

[stormshadow19]

Well I hope he can draft offensive line as well as all of the above.

Wait... Reggie doesn't need an offensive line. He can hike the ball to himself, and throw nasty stiff arms! He's the Chuck Norris of running backs!

[Smizzy]

Close your legs

As soon as max gets up.

[The Gun Of Bavaria]

As soon as max gets up.

I thought Max's voice was muffled when I called

[Smizzy]

Yea...he was trying to impress me.

[GREENSMACKS]

Are we still talking about Bush?

with the legs being opened and closed talk they could be LOL

anywho i just signed up for espn insider. these damn people on there keep talking him up as a once in a lifetime player and so on making it more devasting if we do get him. he could help the defense by keeping them off the field. i bet if we get him he'll tear an acl as he walks to the podium to greet taglibue.

[The Gun Of Bavaria]

I'm not saying Bush won't be a solid player, but for the media, fans and select draftniks to appoint this guy as the one-man savior of any football team, especially the Jets is foolish. I truly think that given his size, he will be effective right up until the point he gets tackled by a Zach Thomas or Brian Urlacher. Right up until a Wilfork falls on top of him, or a John Lynch hits him at 115mph.

Anyone who has followed football for any length of time knows that there is a certain danger with these college players who seem to be a gift from the gods at their position. For every Shaun Alexander, there is a Blair Thomas and Ki-Jana Carter. For every Peyton Manning there is a Ryan Leaf.

Fact is if you look beyond the press, beyond the hype and take a true look at the Jets pressing concerns then you know that even if Bush were to pan out and become a Emmitt Smith/Barry Sanders NFL clone overnight, it would do NOTHING to help this team get better. If anything a RB of Bush's size would find himself with more bruises, bumps, breaks and fractures then a fighter after a 12 round bout with Tyson in his prime.

I'll say it like this: If the Jets draft Reggie Bush, then they (and you as a fan of the move) are effectively 'cashing in' the 2006 season. The amount of coin this guy is going to command will alone limit the team's ability to patch some semblence of free agents together for an emergency repair job. Even if the Jets were to pull something off that is somewhat 'cap friendly' early on, they'd merely be pushing debt and the cap hell they're increasingly finding themselves in back a few more years. It's like continually refinancing your home. Eventually you need to pay the piper.

If ANYTHING, ANYTHING illustrated why the Jets (or should I say Jets fans) should stop worrying about Reggie Bush, it was the embarrasing display by the Jets defense Monday night in which the Patriots ran 31 straight plays against them. Sure, you can blame the KR team and/or coaches for not fair catching the damn kick, but that was the defense and the defense alone who was responsibly for being owned. If you honestly think that given this season and the way it has panned out defensively, that the Jets Defense isn't in trouble you're ignoring a disaster. The 2005 Jets Defense, maybe even moreso then the offense, has been an utter disaster. For a team to go from one end of the statistical spectrum to the other in one season is inexcusable. No excuses. I don't care that we lost Ferguson to free agency or Barton to inujury. The fact is that with most starters present for the season, this defense stunk the place up to a level not seen since the Cottrell days.

The Jets have glaring problems all over. Complete uncertainty at QB and Chad Pennington affectively holding a $64 Million ransom over the Jets heads. Questions as to whether Houston or Blaylock can be the answer for an entire season with Martin's very noticiable drop in productiivity. An offensive line that is easily and truly one of the worst ever assembled in modern day football. The lack of a blocking TE. Hit and Miss receivers. A defensive line that cannot stop the run, generate a pass rush or even jam the hole along the line of scrimmage. A one man show at LB in Jonathan Vilma. A CB position that neither Barrett or Miller seem willing to want to win. A 2nd round place kicker brough in SPECIFICALLY for his leg, his ability to kick long clutch FGs and who has one touch back all year.

The drafting of Reggie Bush would be nothing more then a human shield to deflect fan scrutiny for an off-season, until such time that a 2006 disaster would cause fans to forget Bush's presence and once again focus on the crap product on the field. Bush is a great college player. Bush may very well be an excellent NFL player. But if you remove yourself from the hype and truly look at the MAJOR problems with this Jets squad, you know in your heart that the Jets should look elsewhere. It's time for the Jets to take a page from the Tuna and Belichick playbook, stockpile some picks through trades and fill the glaring holes.

[stormshadow19]

Shaun Alexander was a mid to late first round pick... and he plays behind one of the better offensive lines in the league.

Drafting Reggie Bush would be ok, if you're looking for pub and attention. For ever Bush, there's a Terrell Davis or a Priest Holmes.

The Jets have alot of problems, as Guns has illustrated. Alot more than what Reggie Bush can solve. Again, I point to Barry Sanders. He could do it all, except win the big one. Marshall Faulk, whom Bush is compared to, alot (by me, anyway)... he didn't do squat until he hooked up with Orlando Pace, Kurt Warner, Issac Bruce, and Torry Holt. And the coaching staff of the St Louis Rams. Do you really think that the Jets coaching staff would use Bush the "right" way?

[bitonti]

by the time April rolls around the amount of hype around Reggie Bush will be so big he will have to be a HOFer from the first snap to live up to it.

[4HCrew]

Great post Guns and great follow up Bitonti...this kid is already slated for Canton and has not taken one good hit in the NFL yet. The Jets need to address the O Line and D Line problems and that is the foundation of a winning team.

[PatsFanTX]

I'm not saying Bush won't be a solid player, but for the media, fans and select draftniks to appoint this guy as the one-man savior of any football team, especially the Jets is foolish. I truly think that given his size, he will be effective right up until the point he gets tackled by a Zach Thomas or Brian Urlacher. Right up until a Wilfork falls on top of him, or a John Lynch hits him at 115mph.

Anyone who has followed football for any length of time knows that there is a certain danger with these college players who seem to be a gift from the gods at their position. For every Shaun Alexander, there is a Blair Thomas and Ki-Jana Carter. For every Peyton Manning there is a Ryan Leaf.

Fact is if you look beyond the press, beyond the hype and take a true look at the Jets pressing concerns then you know that even if Bush were to pan out and become a Emmitt Smith/Barry Sanders NFL clone overnight, it would do NOTHING to help this team get better. If anything a RB of Bush's size would find himself with more bruises, bumps, breaks and fractures then a fighter after a 12 round bout with Tyson in his prime.

I'll say it like this: If the Jets draft Reggie Bush, then they (and you as a fan of the move) are effectively 'cashing in' the 2006 season. The amount of coin this guy is going to command will alone limit the team's ability to patch some semblence of free agents together for an emergency repair job. Even if the Jets were to pull something off that is somewhat 'cap friendly' early on, they'd merely be pushing debt and the cap hell they're increasingly finding themselves in back a few more years. It's like continually refinancing your home. Eventually you need to pay the piper.

If ANYTHING, ANYTHING illustrated why the Jets (or should I say Jets fans) should stop worrying about Reggie Bush, it was the embarrasing display by the Jets defense Monday night in which the Patriots ran 31 straight plays against them. Sure, you can blame the KR team and/or coaches for not fair catching the damn kick, but that was the defense and the defense alone who was responsibly for being owned. If you honestly think that given this season and the way it has panned out defensively, that the Jets Defense isn't in trouble you're ignoring a disaster. The 2005 Jets Defense, maybe even moreso then the offense, has been an utter disaster. For a team to go from one end of the statistical spectrum to the other in one season is inexcusable. No excuses. I don't care that we lost Ferguson to free agency or Barton to inujury. The fact is that with most starters present for the season, this defense stunk the place up to a level not seen since the Cottrell days.

The Jets have glaring problems all over. Complete uncertainty at QB and Chad Pennington affectively holding a $64 Million ransom over the Jets heads. Questions as to whether Houston or Blaylock can be the answer for an entire season with Martin's very noticiable drop in productiivity. An offensive line that is easily and truly one of the worst ever assembled in modern day football. The lack of a blocking TE. Hit and Miss receivers. A defensive line that cannot stop the run, generate a pass rush or even jam the hole along the line of scrimmage. A one man show at LB in Jonathan Vilma. A CB position that neither Barrett or Miller seem willing to want to win. A 2nd round place kicker brough in SPECIFICALLY for his leg, his ability to kick long clutch FGs and who has one touch back all year.

The drafting of Reggie Bush would be nothing more then a human shield to deflect fan scrutiny for an off-season, until such time that a 2006 disaster would cause fans to forget Bush's presence and once again focus on the crap product on the field. Bush is a great college player. Bush may very well be an excellent NFL player. But if you remove yourself from the hype and truly look at the MAJOR problems with this Jets squad, you know in your heart that the Jets should look elsewhere. It's time for the Jets to take a page from the Tuna and Belichick playbook, stockpile some picks through trades and fill the glaring holes.

This post should be required reading for all Jets fans everywhere.

"Premier" RB's do not win Super Bowls in the NFL, especially some 5'10" midget who will get banged up.

Teams with outstanding defenses and solid OLines win Super Bowls.

Unfortuantely for the Jets, they have neither.

[LionelRichie]

This post should be required reading for all Jets fans everywhere.

"Premier" RB's do not win Super Bowls in the NFL, especially some 5'10" midget who will get banged up.

Teams with outstanding defenses and solid OLines win Super Bowls.

Unfortuantely for the Jets, they have neither.

Guns - that post is right on the money. there are 2 things that you forget:

1. as long as TB is here do you really want him to draft another B Thomas, Askew, McGlass with his high picks?

2. drafting bush is the 'safe' pick for a GM. nobody can point blame is he is a bust because everybody is on his jock. whoever drafts 1 almost has to take bush.

[stormshadow19]

2. drafting bush is the 'safe' pick for a GM. nobody can point blame is he is a bust because everybody is on his jock. whoever drafts 1 almost has to take bush.

Yes, but then the Jets would have to be in the number one slot. Which isn't bloody likely.

[afosomf]

I'm not saying Bush won't be a solid player, but for the media, fans and select draftniks to appoint this guy as the one-man savior of any football team, especially the Jets is foolish. I truly think that given his size, he will be effective right up until the point he gets tackled by a Zach Thomas or Brian Urlacher. Right up until a Wilfork falls on top of him, or a John Lynch hits him at 115mph.

Anyone who has followed football for any length of time knows that there is a certain danger with these college players who seem to be a gift from the gods at their position. For every Shaun Alexander, there is a Blair Thomas and Ki-Jana Carter. For every Peyton Manning there is a Ryan Leaf.

Fact is if you look beyond the press, beyond the hype and take a true look at the Jets pressing concerns then you know that even if Bush were to pan out and become a Emmitt Smith/Barry Sanders NFL clone overnight, it would do NOTHING to help this team get better. If anything a RB of Bush's size would find himself with more bruises, bumps, breaks and fractures then a fighter after a 12 round bout with Tyson in his prime.

I'll say it like this: If the Jets draft Reggie Bush, then they (and you as a fan of the move) are effectively 'cashing in' the 2006 season. The amount of coin this guy is going to command will alone limit the team's ability to patch some semblence of free agents together for an emergency repair job. Even if the Jets were to pull something off that is somewhat 'cap friendly' early on, they'd merely be pushing debt and the cap hell they're increasingly finding themselves in back a few more years. It's like continually refinancing your home. Eventually you need to pay the piper.

If ANYTHING, ANYTHING illustrated why the Jets (or should I say Jets fans) should stop worrying about Reggie Bush, it was the embarrasing display by the Jets defense Monday night in which the Patriots ran 31 straight plays against them. Sure, you can blame the KR team and/or coaches for not fair catching the damn kick, but that was the defense and the defense alone who was responsibly for being owned. If you honestly think that given this season and the way it has panned out defensively, that the Jets Defense isn't in trouble you're ignoring a disaster. The 2005 Jets Defense, maybe even moreso then the offense, has been an utter disaster. For a team to go from one end of the statistical spectrum to the other in one season is inexcusable. No excuses. I don't care that we lost Ferguson to free agency or Barton to inujury. The fact is that with most starters present for the season, this defense stunk the place up to a level not seen since the Cottrell days.

The Jets have glaring problems all over. Complete uncertainty at QB and Chad Pennington affectively holding a $64 Million ransom over the Jets heads. Questions as to whether Houston or Blaylock can be the answer for an entire season with Martin's very noticiable drop in productiivity. An offensive line that is easily and truly one of the worst ever assembled in modern day football. The lack of a blocking TE. Hit and Miss receivers. A defensive line that cannot stop the run, generate a pass rush or even jam the hole along the line of scrimmage. A one man show at LB in Jonathan Vilma. A CB position that neither Barrett or Miller seem willing to want to win. A 2nd round place kicker brough in SPECIFICALLY for his leg, his ability to kick long clutch FGs and who has one touch back all year.

The drafting of Reggie Bush would be nothing more then a human shield to deflect fan scrutiny for an off-season, until such time that a 2006 disaster would cause fans to forget Bush's presence and once again focus on the crap product on the field. Bush is a great college player. Bush may very well be an excellent NFL player. But if you remove yourself from the hype and truly look at the MAJOR problems with this Jets squad, you know in your heart that the Jets should look elsewhere. It's time for the Jets to take a page from the Tuna and Belichick playbook, stockpile some picks through trades and fill the glaring holes.

This team is a diaster and needs major talent, building blocks so to speak. Bush will receive highest draft grade ever, this kid is no bust.

The OL can be rebuilt with low rd draft picks and good coaching. Ray Barone may be worst OL coach in NFL. Of course Herm getting canned is paramount for this to work. Herm couldn't coach the 7 walls of granite.

Yes 2006 will not be a playoff year, it will be a rebuilding year with a new QB, Bush, a new OL, a revitalized D, with a new DT, hopefully a new coaching staff as well, Donnie blew his chance.

Barton, Vilma can stay, Hobson gets boot. Strait, Miller, Rhodes and a fire under Coleman is not too bad.

Abe will be gone for either a QB or #1 pick.

I will tolerate a 6-10 season next year, this team has more talent than phins and they about to finish 8-8, they have coaching we have zilch.

Bush will make every fan stand on their seat, when he touches the ball. You guys act like he cannot take a hit. There are plenty of huge lineman in College that have fell on his "tweaky' limbs as you put it. Again this is a consensus can't miss by every single scout out there.

The Jets deserve this major talent and i guarantee you that in 2007 we will be in playoff hunt. Just as long as Hermie/badway are given walking papers.

Asking for DBrick is a joke. He is more likely to stiff out ala gallery than anyone.

Wake up and smell the coffee!! Hammer is on band wagon again and so should you.

[RSJ]

I can remember when I was a little kid and thought that if the Jets could just get the number one pick they could turn it around. Unfortunatly, it took a HC to turn it around and not a number one pick.

[afosomf]

I can remember when I was a little kid and thought that if the Jets could just get the number one pick they could turn it around. Unfortunatly, it took a HC to turn it around and not a number one pick.

RS- Obviously if Herm is still here, bush would turn into poison ivy. he is the only coach out there who could cripple him!!!!

First things first, Herm meets the can!!!