Can We Please Stop Using The "P" Word

[SoFlaJets]

When it comes to any discussions about the 2013 New York Jets. This is still a sub-.500 football team AT BEST, and it insults our football intelligence to mention them as possible contenders - for anything other than perhaps a top-10 draft pick. We still need another year at least of rebuilding and especially of tearing down every position they field on Sunday except maybe the D-line.

 

I would be interested in hearing who you guys think stays and who must go. Here's the roster and depth chart that I wish someone could copy and paste it into this thread. http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NYJ

 

New York Jets Depth Chart

HC: Rex Ryan | OC: Marty Mornhinweg | DC: Dennis Thurman | ST: Ben Kotwika

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Updated: 11/14/2013 4:45PM ET

 

Offense

 

LWR 84 Hill, Stephen 12/2 86 Nelson, David SF13 16 CRIBBS, JOSHUA SF13      

RWR 10 Holmes, Santonio T/Pit 11 Kerley, Jeremy 11/5 17 Salas, Greg P/Phi        

LT 60 Ferguson, D'Brickashaw 06/1 71 Ijalana, Ben W/Ind            

LG 67 Winters, Brian 13/3 62 Ducasse, Vladimir 10/2            

C 74 Mangold, Nick 06/1 72 Schlauderaff, Caleb T/GB            

RG 66 COLON, WILLIE CC/Pit 65 Campbell, William 13/6            

RT 77 Howard, Austin P/Bal 75 Aboushi, Oday 13/5            

TE 87 Cumberland, Jeff CF10 88 Reuland, Konrad W/SF 44 Sudfeld, Zach W/NE 81 WINSLOW, KELLEN SF13    

QB 7 Smith, Geno 13/2 5 Simms, Matt CF12 9 GARRARD, DAVID SF13        

FB 40 Bohanon, Tommy 13/7                

RB 29 Powell, Bilal 11/4 33 Ivory, Chris T/NO 25 Green, Alex W/GB        

 

Defense

 

LDE 96 Wilkerson, Muhammad 11/1 78 Douzable, Leger SF13            

NT 94 Harrison, Damon CF12 93 Ellis, Kenrick 11/3            

RDT 91 Richardson, Sheldon 13/1                

OLB 98 Coples, Quinton 12/1 58 Davis, Troy CF13            

WLB 56 Davis, Demario 12/3 58 Davis, Troy CF13            

MLB 52 Harris, David 07/2 54 Bellore, Nick CF11            

OLB 97 PACE, CALVIN U/Arz 50 McIntyre, Garrett SF11            

CB 27 Milliner, Dee 13/1 20 Wilson, Kyle 10/1 35 TRUFANT, ISAIAH SF11        

SS 26 LANDRY, DAWAN CC/Jax 32 Bush, Josh 12/6            

FS 39 Allen, Antonio 12/7 37 Jarrett, Jaiquawn SF13 22 REED, ED SF13        

RCB 31 Cromartie, Antonio T/SD 30 Walls, Darrin SF12 21 Lankster, Ellis SF11        

 

Special Teams

P 1 Quigley, Ryan SF13                 PK 2 Folk, Nick SF10                 LS 46 Purdum, Tanner SF10                 H 1 Quigley, Ryan SF13                 PR 11 Kerley, Jeremy 11/5 16 CRIBBS, JOSHUA SF13 20 Wilson, Kyle 10/1         KR 16 CRIBBS, JOSHUA SF13 20 Wilson, Kyle 10/1 31 Cromartie, Antonio T/SD        

Practice Squad PS

99 Barnes, TJ DT 47 Lansanah, Danny ILB 92 Finau, Tevita DE 63 Freeman, Dalton C 34 Dowling, Ras-I CB PS 44 Pantale, Chris TE 15 Hakim, Saalim WR 45 Miles, Rontez FS        

Reserves RES

18 Hazelton, Vidal IR 22 Berry, Aaron IR 24 Griffin, John IR 36 Hilliard, Lex IR 95 Barnes, Antwan IR RES 53 Mauga, Josh IR 6 Sanchez, Mark IR-2 DFR 23 Goodson, Mike IR 19 Gates, Clyde IR

[SoFlaJets]

see what I mean about copying and pasting that Ourlads stuff?

[SoFlaJets]

I count 18 players gone, not just starters

[Integrity28]

I've been saying for weeks, this team full of street FA's is not a contender.

 

I'm not sure when and why the playoff banter started, but the minute it became part of the narrative around this team, Rex let it get right into his and their heads.

 

I've never seen anyone, not just in football but in life, so easily undressed every time there's an air of over-confidence. 

 

Rex is literally the school yard bully in mentality and boast, and he routinely get's pants'ed by every other kid in the school yard.

[SoFlaJets]

I've been saying for weeks, this team full of street FA's is not a contender.

 

I'm not sure when and why the playoff banter started, but the minute it became part of the narrative around this team, Rex let it get right into his and their heads.

 

I've never seen anyone, not just in football but in life, so easily undressed every time there's an air of over-confidence. 

 

Rex is literally the school yard bully in mentality and boast, and he routinely get's pants'ed by every other kid in the school yard.

Maybe because it seemed to come so easy to him right out of the gate 2-8. He figured: hell, I can get to the AFCCG any year I want, it doesn't matter WHO I have for coaches or players, even a rookie QB as long as I have me and my big bad defense. Remember now, this was the only guy left last spring when Woody had that PC. Everybody else had either fled or gotten fired. Rex is not going to survive this with 3 consecutive losing seasons, it's either make some noise or he'll either be gone or demoted to defensive coordinator somewhere else, since he'd never take THAT job here

[Scott Dierking]

Maybe because it seemed to come so easy to him right out of the gate 2-8. He figured: hell, I can get to the AFCCG any year I want, it doesn't matter WHO I have for coaches or players, even a rookie QB as long as I have me and my big bad defense. Remember now, this was the only guy left last spring when Woody had that PC. Everybody else had either fled or gotten fired. Rex is not going to survive this with 3 consecutive losing seasons, it's either make some noise or he'll either be gone or demoted to defensive coordinator somewhere else, since he'd never take THAT job here

Welcome to July, 2013.

[deucebag]

And to think, Aaron Berry would have been our best cover corner had he not gotten injured.

[jack48]

I've been saying for weeks, this team full of street FA's is not a contender.

 

I'm not sure when and why the playoff banter started, but the minute it became part of the narrative around this team, Rex let it get right into his and their heads.

 

I've never seen anyone, not just in football but in life, so easily undressed every time there's an air of over-confidence. 

 

Rex is literally the school yard bully in mentality and boast, and he routinely get's pants'ed by every other kid in the school yard.

rex is basically infantile in his emotional makeup

[JustInFudge]

Does the "P" word mean playoffs? 

 

Because the Jets are still currently the 6 seed.

 

It's pretty cool...if you're a Jets fan.

[CrazyCarl40]

Does the "P" word mean playoffs?

Because the Jets are still currently the 6 seed.

It's pretty cool...if you're a Jets fan.

It's also not happening... if you're level headed.

[Scott Dierking]

Does the "P" word mean playoffs? 

 

Because the Jets are still currently the 6 seed.

 

It's pretty cool...if you're a Jets fan.

Even more cool if they started today.

 

But, alas......

[JustInFudge]

It's also not happening... if you're level headed.

 

Crazier things have been done.  

 

If the season ended today, the Jets would be in.  The season doesnt but they've proved they can beat anyone...so, I'd like to see thing pan out. Other teams success factors in as well.

 

So you know, just keeping it level headed. 

[Integrity28]

Crazier things have been done.  

 

If the season ended today, the Jets would be in.  The season doesnt but they've proved they can beat anyone...so, I'd like to see thing pan out. Other teams success factors in as well.

 

So you know, just keeping it level headed. 

 

If the season ended today and all of the other teams that made the playoffs today blew up in a freak volcano explosion caused by Godzilla waking from his/her slumber after 70+ years of not having eaten little Japanese people, then the Jets would be a shoe-in for SB CHAMPS!!!! 

 

You twit.

[SayNoToDMC]

Does the "P" word mean playoffs? 

 

Because the Jets are still currently the 6 seed.

 

It's pretty cool...if you're a Jets fan.

 

 

 

This scene just popped in my had, your persistence amazes me

[Irish Jet]

You do realize pretty much every other team in the race is as inconsistent as us, right? Well not quite as inconsistent, we're the extreme in that field, but they're all pretty ******* bad.

 

Not many other teams in contention for the #6 spot have  the two incredibly impressive wins we have. We're not a good team, but there may very well be 10 worse ones in the AFC. The playoffs are far from being out of the question, we're contenders right now whether we make it or not. 

[Scott Dierking]

You do realize pretty much every other team in the race is as inconsistent as us, right? Well not quite as inconsistent, we're the extreme in that field, but they're all pretty ******* bad.

 

Not many other teams in contention for the #6 spot have  the two incredibly impressive wins we have. We're not a good team, but there may very well be 10 worse ones in the AFC. The playoffs are far from being out of the question, we're contenders right now whether we make it or not. 

I don't think Rex is hiring you to get in front of the team to inspire them with that speech.

[Steveg]

Crazier things have been done.  

 

If the season ended today, the Jets would be in.  The season doesnt but they've proved they can beat anyone...so, I'd like to see thing pan out. Other teams success factors in as well.

 

So you know, just keeping it level headed. 

 

9 - 7 should put the Jets in the playoffs.  Right now, they don't deserve it.  But if they can go 4 - 2 and beat Miami twice, Baltimore, and Cleveland, they would deserve it.

[SoFlaJets]

Can you people please let the helium out of your heads and float softly back down to terra firma. This is NOT a good team fellas I know it, you know it, and every realistic thinking football fan knows it.

[faba]

This team is about an 8 and 8 team - so it is looking they will land where the talent level and coaching will take them. If I am wrong great

[Irish Jet]

Can you people please let the helium out of your heads and float softly back down to terra firma. This is NOT a good team fellas I know it, you know it, and every realistic thinking football fan knows it.

 

Who said they were a good team. They can be a playoff team without being a good one.

[Steveg]

This team is about an 8 and 8 team - so it is looking they will land where the talent level and coaching will take them. If I am wrong great

 

....Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true....and then we'd be happy.......

[JustInFudge]

If the season ended today and all of the other teams that made the playoffs today blew up in a freak volcano explosion caused by Godzilla waking from his/her slumber after 70+ years of not having eaten little Japanese people, then the Jets would be a shoe-in for SB CHAMPS!!!! 

 

You twit.

 

Can this happen? If so, I'm rooting for it.

 

9 - 7 should put the Jets in the playoffs.  Right now, they don't deserve it.  But if they can go 4 - 2 and beat Miami twice, Baltimore, and Cleveland, they would deserve it.

 

Why dont they deserve it? ....the standings are the standings. Wins are wins.

 

They beat the Pats and Saints and 3 other teams...those dont count now?  Will they count if they end up 9-7 and in the playoffs?

[Steveg]

Can this happen? If so, I'm rooting for it.

 

 

Why dont they deserve it? ....the standings are the standings. Wins are wins.

 

They beat the Pats and Saints and 3 other teams...those dont count now?  Will they count if they end up 9-7 and in the playoffs?

 

 

 

While watching the game yeasterday and seeing the secondary look lost, the front seven not getting to the QB, the O-line not protecting Geno, and Geno throwing awful passes, I just thought to myself, "this team doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs."  Probably an overreaction, but it was so demoralizing.

[Scott Dierking]

Can this happen? If so, I'm rooting for it.

 

 

Why dont they deserve it? ....the standings are the standings. Wins are wins.

 

They beat the Pats and Saints and 3 other teams...those dont count now?  Will they count if they end up 9-7 and in the playoffs?

9-7 would be tough for us to get in based on conference record right now. Somebody out of that jumble is going to get hot. And that is all that it takes.

[SayNoToDMC]

If the season ended today and all of the other teams that made the playoffs today blew up in a freak volcano explosion caused by Godzilla waking from his/her slumber after 70+ years of not having eaten little Japanese people, then the Jets would be a shoe-in for SB CHAMPS!!!!

You twit.

We'd no show for at least one of the 4 games against replacement players. If this team played a college schedule Im not convinced they'd win a title. We'd beat Alabama then Vanderbilt would blow us out the following week.

[JustInFudge]

While watching the game yeasterday and seeing the secondary look lost, the front seven not getting to the QB, the O-line not protecting Geno, and Geno throwing awful passes, I just thought to myself, "this team doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs."  Probably an overreaction, but it was so demoralizing.

 

Its a young, inconsistent team, with a lot of sh*tty players playing key roles and you have a very raw mistake prone rookie QB who looks like the worst player in the league at times.  It's usually not a good formula but somehow the team is 5-5.  They deserve it.

 

What shocks me is that fans havent adjusted.  This has been happening all season long.  

 

9-7 would be tough for us to get in based on conference record right now. Somebody out of that jumble is going to get hot. And that is all that it takes.

 

I think 9-7 is getting the last WC spot.  

 

The only team threatening as of now, is Miami, who the Jets still play twice.

 

If they can get consistent play from Geno and the OL, the Jets are just as capable of getting hot (or hot enough to get in).

 

Not that it matters...they're not winning any games in the playoffs...but it would be a nice confidence builder for a young team and a brand new GM.

[Integrity28]

We'd no show for at least one of the 4 games against replacement players. If this team played a college schedule Im not convinced they'd win a title. We'd beat Alabama then Vanderbilt would blow us out the following week.

 

 

Replacement players? I'm saying they'd just anoint us, without any football being played. That's the only shot we've got.

[Scott Dierking]

Its a young, inconsistent team, with a lot of sh*tty players playing key roles and you have a very raw mistake prone rookie QB who looks like the worst player in the league at times.  It's usually not a good formula but somehow the team is 5-5.  They deserve it.

 

What shocks me is that fans havent adjusted.  This has been happening all season long.  

 

 

I think 9-7 is getting the last WC spot.  

 

The only team threatening as of now, is Miami, who the Jets still play twice.

 

If they can get consistent play from Geno and the OL, the Jets are just as capable of getting hot (or hot enough to get in).

 

Not that it matters...they're not winning any games in the playoffs...but it would be a nice confidence builder for a young team and a brand new GM.

9-7 means that we win 2 games in a row at some point-something this team has not done in almost a full calendar year, and something they hove only done once in almost 2 full calendar years.

 

Maybe the odds are with them. That is hard to do

[Steveg]

"Not that it matters...they're not winning any games in the playoffs...but it would be a nice confidence builder for a young team and a brand new GM."

I think if they bring their "A" game, they could beat the Colts or Pats.

[JustInFudge]

9-7 means that we win 2 games in a row at some point-something this team has not done in almost a full calendar year, and something they hove only done once in almost 2 full calendar years.

 

Maybe the odds are with them. That is hard to do

 

Its bound to happen sometime???

 

"Not that it matters...they're not winning any games in the playoffs...but it would be a nice confidence builder for a young team and a brand new GM."

I think if they bring their "A" game, they could beat the Colts or Pats.

 

Possibly.  Tough to do on the road the way these team plays...but possibly.

[SoFlaJets]

I am a Jets fan, I will always BE a Jets fan, I can't help it-it's in my DNA. With that having been said I know this isn't our year (again) but I do like the direction that the team seems to be heading in. I love Wilk, Richardson and a few other guys young players we have and think that they can be the building blocks to something special-someday. I want to see what Idzik can do with this team and if Rex manages to survive the second wave of the big rebuilding purge that is coming we may just get back to the playoffs as a true contender. We need more Idzik involvement. I'm curious to see where this team goes. I'm still not sure about Geno and would kind of like to see if Simms can be a pro like his daddy was-why not, what do we have to lose? 

[flgreen]

If the season ended today and all of the other teams that made the playoffs today blew up in a freak volcano explosion caused by Godzilla waking from his/her slumber after 70+ years of not having eaten little Japanese people, then the Jets would be a shoe-in for SB CHAMPS!!!! 

 

You twit.

 

 

This is a total BS post.

 

The last time Godzilla was eating little Japanese people was in the area of 2000.  Actually most of the people he ate were New Yorkers.   Be careful what you hope for 

[Larz]

yeah, those dominant 4-6 teams deserve it so much more than the jets

[pedro55]

As others said,  the #6 seed stinks.  Whether it's the Jets or Ravens or Dolphins or Steelers doesn't matter.   Can any of those teams win a playoff game?  Of course, it's a one game playoff and anything is possible.    But for those saying you like the look of this team for the future, why?  This is the same jets team we've seen for years.  They don't show up half the time, they wind up finishing around 8-8.    We hear the same BS about 'next year' and hope.   Except it's the same damn team year after year.  

 

When the Jets defense doesn't play like the best defense in the league,  they usually lose.  And the Jets defense stunk yesterday.    The Jets never seem to have an offense that can win you games.  Ever.   So they rely on 16-13 games.  Except this isn't 1973.  For whatever reason the Jets are stuck in the ground and pound philosophy.   And it hasn't worked.   They made a nice run a few years back, but Manning beat them down one year and Big Ben did it the next.   And the Jets just didn't have enough offense to keep up.     

 

 I don't know what to feel anymore. It's great they are winning, but I see the same team over and over.  They are the same 8-8 team year after year (some years they win 9, others 6 and so on)  and I don't see how they are getting any better or different.   What do we expect next year?   Everybody and their brother knew the offense sucked coming into this season, and once again, the offense still sucks.  Is that the HC?  is it the GM?   Is it the OC?     Does it matter as this team has had how many OC over the past 3 seasons?     

 

I've heard the same story for years about hope and next year.   Except it's the same team over and over.  Offense usually can't score, QB usually isn't very good, and they try and run the ball as often as they can and hope the defense wins the game.    What's changed?

[Integrity28]

This is a total BS post.

The last time Godzilla was eating little Japanese people was in the area of 2000. Actually most of the people he ate were New Yorkers. Be careful what you hope for

So, i was right.