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Integrity28    60,542

Interestingly enough, Decker reminds me a lot of Jordy Nelson.  Cant put my finger on why...

 

Is Jordy Nelson prettier than his super pretty wife too?

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Integrity28    60,542

5 less catches that Thomas and 6 less targets. He could be a #1 receiver in the right offense. This one led by Geno Smith is not conducive to that.

 

By "right offense" you mean one with Manning, but without Demarius.

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Integrity28    60,542

Jennings was a douche who didn't like Rodgers, so that likely factored in. I know the Packers don't traditionally chase free agents, but it would make no sense not to go get Rodgers another target.

 

Not sure about all that, but I do agree... it makes no sense for the Packers, you see that have that rare combination of factors in place, 1.) they have a top 5 QB, and 2.) they know how to draft receivers and "develop" them.

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BroadwayJoe12    16,412

Jennings was a douche who didn't like Rodgers, so that likely factored in. I know the Packers don't traditionally chase free agents, but it would make no sense not to go get Rodgers another target.

 

They have Nelson, Cobb (who's gonna be a top 10 WR next year) and Boykins, I'd suspect they'd resign Jones, who's said he'd take a discount, and look to upgrade their tight end position. 

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CrazyCarl40    49,436

By "right offense" you mean one with Manning, but without Demarius.

 

He was better than Demarius without Manning and catching passes from Tebow. So, probably a little more than just Manning.

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CrazyCarl40    49,436

They have Nelson, Cobb (who's gonna be a top 10 WR next year) and Boykins, I'd suspect they'd resign Jones, who's said he'd take a discount, and look to upgrade their tight end position. 

 

I think they like Quarless. He came on at the end of the season.

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Smashmouth    10,783

IMO Decker is a real shot due to his media whore driven wife. But he'll get overpaid as a #1 when he's really a solid #2.

If Decker is a top tem WR the past 2 years and also played well with Teblow at QB he is a number 1 WR maybe not of the elite status but hes certainly good enough to be a number 1 on more than half the teams in this league. What else would you propose at WR Hess ? You grab Decker or Graham if at all possible and draft a boat load of skill players which this team needed to do for a very long time. Our offensive skill positions have been neglected long enough

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Integrity28    60,542

He was better than Demarius without Manning and catching passes from Tebow. So, probably a little more than just Manning.

 

Was he? Or was Tebow just better at getting him the ball? Like, more chemistry. I mean, there's no question that Randy Moss was better than Welker, but Welker often out-produced him with the Patriots because of the chemistry with Brady.

 

Hard to say take player X from team A and plug him into team B and voila! 

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5 less catches that Thomas and 6 less targets. He could be a #1 receiver in the right offense. This one led by Geno Smith is not conducive to that.

 

I guess i going beyond just the numbers. Who gives defensive coordinators more concerns. It has to be Demaryius not Decker when facing the Broncos. That's why Aqib Talib was matched up against him in Sunday's game.

 

Decker can be a good WR as you say in the right offense where there is another legit #1 threat.

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Jetsfan80    72,337

Was he? Or was Tebow just better at getting him the ball? Like, more chemistry. I mean, there's no question that Randy Moss was better than Welker, but Welker often out-produced him with the Patriots because of the chemistry with Brady.

 

Hard to say take player X from team A and plug him into team B and voila! 

 

True, but I'd say Decker is legit after catching a lot of passes from two different QB's.  Especially when the former was a lefty who couldn't football.

 

I just don't see why he'd come here when he could go play with Luck.  And I don't think he's worth WR1 money.  No one currently on the market really is.

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derp    765

I suspect Idzik will stay away from the top of the market and bring in two of the second/third tier type guys e.g. Danario Alexander, Brandon Lafell, Kenny Britt, Robert Meachem, Mario Manningham, Louis Murphy (Sanjay connection) etc. From what the Jets' FO has seen with Holmes and Idzik saw in Seattle with Sidney Rice, they may not be willing to dole out big contracts for some of these guys. (Sidney Rice will probably be cut, he's not a bad option to kick the tires on either).

 

 Personally, if we make a big splash in FA, I feel it'll be for someone like TJ Ward (if he's not franchised) or Jarius Byrd. I think a big time safety and a couple middle WRs would go a lot further than grabbing Decker.  Then again, I could totally be wrong, they sign Decker/Nicks and go after Clinton-Dix or Calvin Pryor in the first round.

 

Byrd would be awesome. Orakpo could make some sense as well as a splashy FA move that fills a need. Idzik certainly has plenty of cap space to work with - though I think priority #1 should be getting Mo locked up.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they signed a guy with injury questions (Nicks, Maclin) to a one year deal. Or if they can get Sanders or Tate to agree to a reasonable deal for WR2 money.

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And why would he want to go from catching 80 balls from the best qb in the league to catching 40 balls from the worst qd in the league? Don't think any good wr would want to play with our qb.

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BurnleyJet    2,610

And why would he want to go from catching 80 balls from the best qb in the league to catching 40 balls from the worst qd in the league? Don't think any good wr would want to play with our qb.

Sanchez is getting cut ;-)

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sirlancemehlot    31,900

New Jersey has pork roll - come on Eric

Pork roll?  PORK ROLL!  Either you, sir, are an impostor, or you are dumbing it down for the non-Jersey masses.

 

Taylor Ham.  I've never ordered a pork roll egg and cheese on a hard roll with salt-pepper-ketchup.  

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GREENBEAN    6,054

Nobody does grilled Pork Roll and Cheese sandwiches like "Joysey" Out here in Pa. deli cooks give me the blank stare like "WTF are you talking about?"

On Melrose avenue in LA a few years ago I ordered a Pork role egg and cheese sandwich after they had no idea what Taylor ham was.

When the waiter returned I was amazed to see a friggin pork chop (with the bone in)  on a bun with melted cheese on it.... I have to say it was pretty good though   :D

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#27TheDominator    203,588

I suspect Idzik will stay away from the top of the market and bring in two of the second/third tier type guys e.g. Danario Alexander, Brandon Lafell, Kenny Britt, Robert Meachem, Mario Manningham, Louis Murphy (Sanjay connection) etc. From what the Jets' FO has seen with Holmes and Idzik saw in Seattle with Sidney Rice, they may not be willing to dole out big contracts for some of these guys. (Sidney Rice will probably be cut, he's not a bad option to kick the tires on either).

 

 Personally, if we make a big splash in FA, I feel it'll be for someone like TJ Ward (if he's not franchised) or Jarius Byrd. I think a big time safety and a couple middle WRs would go a lot further than grabbing Decker.  Then again, I could totally be wrong, they sign Decker/Nicks and go after Clinton-Dix or Calvin Pryor in the first round.

 

I'm fine with not making a big splash.  I think I'm on record as liking Danario Alexander.  Lafell wouldn't be bad.  I sort of feel about Lafell like I do about Decker.  I think they will be good, but no faith they will great.  Obviously I'd rather have Decker, but my feeling is of similarity comes from the idea that Lafell will get a much cheaper deal. Manningham may be done with the knee and is not the sharpest tool in the shed.  Not sure he'd fit in.  I really liked Meachem coming out, but seems to be a not much and did not exactly mesh with Rivers.  I think they had a shot at Murphy last year and he went with the Giants.  Interesting thing about Murphy is that I thought he was going to break out.  He had a couple of fairly effective seasons with Jamarcus and Campbell throwing and then he fell off the face of the earth when he got a decent QB - first Palmer, then Cam Newton and Eli and he did nothing.  Apparently his catch rate is fairly miserable, but those advanced stats are a bit of a mystery to me. 

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eboozer    56

On Melrose avenue in LA a few years ago I ordered a Pork role egg and cheese sandwich after they had no idea what Taylor ham was.

When the waiter returned I was amazed to see a friggin pork chop (with the bone in)  on a bun with melted cheese on it.... I have to say it was pretty good though   :biggrin:

That's a classic. RemindS me of the movie " A Christmas Story" when they go out to Christmas dinner at a Chinese Restaurant 'cause nothing else is open (those Pagans)

They order a Turkey dinner and the guy brings out a Goose with the head still on it,

Funny Stuff!

"RA-RA-RA-RA-RAAAA..... RA-RA-RA-RA"!

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Sperm Edwards    338,543

The Packers never spend in free agency. I'd be shocked if they even had Decker in for a visit.

 

Yeah, GB's a crazy guess (as in a crazy bad guess) at Decker's landing spot.  They already have quality WRs and half the purpose of throwing $20M+ per year at a great QB is that they don't need to give $10M/year FA contracts to the likes of Eric Decker.  Possible, technically, but I don't see it happening.  They're more likely to just re-sign Jones.  Nelson and Cobb are both UFAs in 2015 so they have to be looking at one or both of them to bring back as well (depending on what they do with Jones).  They also like to draft WRs and let them go if they get too expensive.  They've done a good job on that front, but everyone looks better when the QB fits a 6" diameter ball into a 7" window from 15-20 yards away on a rope. Then someone like Jennings goes to Minnesota and puts up Jets #1 WR numbers rather than Packers #1 WR numbers. Go figure.

 

Indy is a possibility.  Though good points were brought up as to why they may shy away, Wayne is entering the final season of his contract, is coming off a bad mid-season knee injury, and at age 35 is a decent candidate to get cut outright to clear another couple million depending on his rehab progress.  Even if rehab is going well, they'd be foolish to bank on him coming back as a starter and playing at a super-high level next year when he turns 36 mid-season.  Actually thinking about it now, they're a great landing spot for him if they want to spend on the position.  Then again, they may just draft someone.  They really need help on their OL despite spending some good money there recently.  Over-spending badly in the case of Cherilus. 

 

I just think someone like Decker is more likely to go to a team like the Jets or someone in a similar situation.  Basically, a team so devoid of really good WRs they are more likely to take a shot and pay him #1 WR money than a team looking to add him to complement an already-productive group.  Indy could be a landing spot, but then again they may look to the draft since they aren't in as dire straits for a guy who MUST produce immediately like the Jets.  FA WRs like this are more likely to go to the most desperate team than to the best theoretical fit on an already-good offense.  It is unusual for a Wes Welker to go to the Broncos.  Usually with these higher-priced #2 (or up to 1A type) FA WRs it's Berrian/Jennings going to Minnesota, Houshmandzadeh/Rice going to Seattle, Wallace to Miami, Givens to Tennessee (remember him?), Jerry Porter to the Jaguars, etc.  They go to the highest bidder, and typically the highest bidder is the team that needs help at that position the most (provided they have the cap room to make the splash).

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Greenseed4    1,342

He's a number true #1, and has been since his days at Minnesota.  

 

Check out the catch at 1:33, and 2:11.  He would bail out our QB (whoever that may be)

The ability to pull away at 1:49, the route running at 3:26

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8hjS0wKq8

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sirlancemehlot    31,900

All the anti-Decker arguments are sort of pointless.  If we get him, does he instantly become our best receiving threat?  Yes.  Definitely, absolutely and unquestionably.  The question is at what price?  He's not an elite.  He can change a game, though.  And he can "go get it" with his size and athleticism, which is something we've sorely lacked the last two years--since Braylon.  

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ozzieny    8

This.  That WR corps is one injury away from a disaster at all times.  With Wayne nearing retirement, Decker could become Luck's favorite target for about a decade.

I could see Luck and Decker thriving.  Wayne, Hilton, Decker....Luck would be delirious. 

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ozzieny    8

Interestingly enough, Decker reminds me a lot of Jordy Nelson.  Cant put my finger on why...

same speed, same body type, both have excellent hands and can catch in traffic.  Basically clones.  I'd be jumping for joy if we had either. 

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BroadwayJoe12    16,412

If we "hosted" Decker in an pseudo-visit, might as well say the same for Seattle and Golden Tate. 

 

Free agent Golden Tate told Sports Radio 950 KJR in Seattle that he's "very willing" to take a hometown discount with the Seahawks.
"I probably shouldn’t even say this right now but I’m going to say it anyway just because I love Seattle, honestly," said Tate. "I would rather take a little less to be happy and win ballgames than to take way more and go to a crappy city where the fans don’t give a crap about the team." Tate would need to take a hometown discount for the Seahawks to afford him. Just how much of a discount he's willing to take will determine whether he stays put.
 
 While it certainly sounds like he's got his head on straight and wants to win games, I would imagine it's going to be hard to turn down and extra few million dollars a year, especially when he already has a ring. Seattle is going to be pretty cash-strapped with having to pay Wilson and Earl Thomas soon and that's assuming they let Sherman eventually walk.  From all reports it appears as though they favor Baldwin over Tate, so it's hard to see them offering Tate enough money to get him to stay there. 

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pedro55    62

 

If we "hosted" Decker in an pseudo-visit, might as well say the same for Seattle and Golden Tate. 

 

Free agent Golden Tate told Sports Radio 950 KJR in Seattle that he's "very willing" to take a hometown discount with the Seahawks.
"I probably shouldn’t even say this right now but I’m going to say it anyway just because I love Seattle, honestly," said Tate. "I would rather take a little less to be happy and win ballgames than to take way more and go to a crappy city where the fans don’t give a crap about the team." Tate would need to take a hometown discount for the Seahawks to afford him. Just how much of a discount he's willing to take will determine whether he stays put.
 
 While it certainly sounds like he's got his head on straight and wants to win games, I would imagine it's going to be hard to turn down and extra few million dollars a year, especially when he already has a ring. Seattle is going to be pretty cash-strapped with having to pay Wilson and Earl Thomas soon and that's assuming they let Sherman eventually walk.  From all reports it appears as though they favor Baldwin over Tate, so it's hard to see them offering Tate enough money to get him to stay there. 

 

 

  The problem with this is he just won a super bowl, he's on a team that is young and has great players, he plays for a city that has the 12th man,  he plays with a young QB who is pretty damn good, and he plays for a coach most others around the league would love to play for.       

 

 it is a business, but at the end of the day, most people would rather win super bowls over making a few extra thousand bucks.   The greedy ones wind up like Revis and wind up on crappy teams that nobody gives a damn about. And really they don't make a huge difference anyway in wins or losses because the team still stinks with or without them.     

 

 So unless the Jets offer him or Decker far more money than anybody else, why would any talented WR come to a team who doesn't have a QB anybody on the team supports, doesn't have any other talent on offense, and has a HC who most people think doesn't give a crap about offense as it is.    Unless that player is all about the money, he's probably going to take other offers.     And to me, players who are all about the money and nothing else, don't always turn out well.

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Jetknowledge    14

Decker is not even #1 on the Broncos....the JETS need to add a legit #1 WR.

I do not see any shortcuts here. There are not many in the FA market that can be legit #1's. There could be some calculated risk the JETS can take on with players coming from injury like Maclin. Decker might not be the answer. The JETS will have to draft WR's with their first few picks in this draft.

Deckers the best FA option, I mean he was number 2 behind bay bay Thomas who's far from average, I could argue bay bay is a top 5 wide out.

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