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SB Predictions: I think wind dictates winner


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#1 SouthernJet

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:21 AM

In all honesty I think this is a game that will be 100% determined by weather. If no wind/low wind day I go with Broncos. If it hits a typical Jan/Feb Meadowlands windy day withe gusts sustained in 20s MPH range I go with Seahawks. 

 

As of now, they are predicting sustained 19 MPH winds, with higher gusts of 26 MPH. Its early to predict, but thats close to altering Broncos passing game and favoring Seahawks running game..


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:02 PM

In all honesty I think this is a game that will be 100% determined by weather. If no wind/low wind day I go with Broncos. If it hits a typical Jan/Feb Meadowlands windy day withe gusts sustained in 20s MPH range I go with Seahawks. 

 

As of now, they are predicting sustained 19 MPH winds, with higher gusts of 26 MPH. Its early to predict, but thats close to altering Broncos passing game and favoring Seahawks running game..

Broncos have a good running game. Look what Moreno did against the Pats in November. Over 200 yards. Peyton doesn't throw it in the air 40+ yards. He kills you with 10-15 yard slants, 10-14 yard out patterns. Surgical, like Brady.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

Broncos have a good running game. Look what Moreno did against the Pats in November. Over 200 yards. Peyton doesn't throw it in the air 40+ yards. He kills you with 10-15 yard slants, 10-14 yard out patterns. Surgical, like Brady.

 

Denver's running game is mostly Manning being so good. Seattle's dline can play both the run and pass- Peyton can make whatever audible he wants it won't matter.

 

Peytons going to have to makje throws down the field in order to win. Moreno's year was mostly Peyton imo. I do like Seattle to win.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:40 PM

Peyton's arm looks weak. His throws look wobbly and slow. He wins with anticipation and intelligence more than anything. The wind neutralizes that, to an extent.

 

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:46 PM

Definitely looking forward to seeing the #1 offense up against the #1 defense in the Super Bowl. I think in any other year, the Broncos would have a huge advantage, but in the meadowlands in February? I think that favors the ol' ground and pound.
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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:50 PM

Definitely looking forward to seeing the #1 offense up against the #1 defense in the Super Bowl. I think in any other year, the Broncos would have a huge advantage, but in the meadowlands in February? I think that favors the ol' ground and pound.

Thanks for the insight REX.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:56 PM

Broncos have a good running game. Look what Moreno did against the Pats in November. Over 200 yards. Peyton doesn't throw it in the air 40+ yards. He kills you with 10-15 yard slants, 10-14 yard out patterns. Surgical, like Brady.

what do I know, but I think Denver run game set up greatly by Peyton being Peyton,,if winds are horrific, Def wont respect that as much and I think Den run game will not 'be as good'


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:56 PM

Definitely looking forward to seeing the #1 offense up against the #1 defense in the Super Bowl. I think in any other year, the Broncos would have a huge advantage, but in the meadowlands in February? I think that favors the ol' ground and pound.

agree, especially if bad winds for a seemingly passing oriented team


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 06:28 PM

Francesa had a meteorologist on an hour ago. He said in the one model they had, he sees a significant snowstorm and temps in the 20's.

Prepare for Peyton sulky face.
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Posted 22 January 2014 - 06:39 PM

Peyton's arm looks weak. His throws look wobbly and slow. He wins with anticipation and intelligence more than anything. The wind neutralizes that, to an extent.

 

I hope I'm wrong.

 

In all fairness, he's always thrown a wobbly ball. Arm strength looks a bit diminished, deservedly so, but I've yet to really see a deep ball that should have been picked because of blatant lack of arm strength. He either puts it in perfect position or his giant, man-child receivers/tight ends make sure to break it up. On any other occasion I'd like to see Seattle take it, but being a huge Manning fan I'd like to see him win it. Plus, it makes people in Boston miserable, which always cheers up my day.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 07:15 PM

I read somewhere passer rating differential was the most reliable predictor

 

Denver passer rating offense = 114

Denver passer rating defense = 84

 

differential = +30

 

Seattle passer rating offense = 102

Seattle passer rating defense = 63

 

differential = +39

 

looks like the hawks


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 09:32 PM

 It's not like the Seahawks are this great road team though.    And they aren't exactly some cold weather team.     They do have the better rushing attack, but the Broncos didn't have a half bad rush defense.  They shut down the Patriots running game entirely.     The Broncos secondary is the weak link in a sense and so if the wind makes Manning struggle,  I'm not sure Wilson is going to fair any better.      He wasn't exactly that impressive in that Saints playoff game where wind and bad weather were a factor.   

 

  It's really an odd game because you have the Broncos with Manning who isn't known as some cold weather bad weather kind of QB.  But you have the Seahawks who are kind of like the Saints in that they are nearly unbeatable at home, but they are an entirely different team on the road.   And it being in NJ in Feb, it's almost like the worse case scenario for both teams.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 09:50 PM

The Broncos/Chargers game predicted wind - steady 20mph, gusting to 30.

This article talks about how wind will hurt Denver against San Diego's Defense.

  http://www.milehighr...-afc-divisional

 

From the game recap:

"Manning completed 25 of 36 passes for 230 yards."

 

It isn't 400 yards in the air, but they got a win.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:38 AM

The Broncos/Chargers game predicted wind - steady 20mph, gusting to 30.

This article talks about how wind will hurt Denver against San Diego's Defense.

  http://www.milehighr...-afc-divisional

 

From the game recap:

"Manning completed 25 of 36 passes for 230 yards."

 

It isn't 400 yards in the air, but they got a win.

True, BUT, the Chargers arent the Seahawks, so vs Seahawks on that day I assume the wind and Mannings less yards would have in fact resulted in a Denver loss 


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:31 AM

Offense wins championships.

 

Manning will tie his brother with 2 rings

 

After the game, they will interview WOODY JOHNSON and Johnson will say:

 

"SANCHEZ is a better option for the JETS"


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:42 AM

The Bronco offense can beat you in so many ways that I think Peyton can mitigate the weather effects, whatever they are.  They throw a lot of screens to Demaryius, short patterns to Welker, run the ball, etc.  The Seahawk secondary is great but they can't cover everyone. 

 

All season long Peyton has had to hear criticism that he can't play in cold weather.  He'll certainly have the ability to dispel that myth. 

 

Meanwhile, the Broncos had a top 10 run defense, which will help them keep Lynch in check. [Insert obligatory Rex-hating 'stopping the run doesn't matter' joke here.]  If the Seahawks have to win behind Russell Wilson's arm they'll be in a fair bit of trouble. 


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:49 AM

In all honesty I think this is a game that will be 100% determined by weather. If no wind/low wind day I go with Broncos. If it hits a typical Jan/Feb Meadowlands windy day withe gusts sustained in 20s MPH range I go with Seahawks.

As of now, they are predicting sustained 19 MPH winds, with higher gusts of 26 MPH. Its early to predict, but thats close to altering Broncos passing game and favoring Seahawks running game..


Dude you're discounting a team that's home field is in the Rocky Mountains. Really?
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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:52 AM

Dude you're discounting a team that's home field is in the Rocky Mountains. Really?

 

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:43 AM

Dude you're discounting a team that's home field is in the Rocky Mountains. Really?

 

Their last home game it was 60 degrees. They havent faced a defense like this one all season- Seattle's got so many hybrid defensive linemen that should take away Peyton's presnap shenanigans. Their defense is built to beat teams like the Broncos.

 

I think it will be close with a Peyton interception costing the Broncos the game,


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:48 AM

In all honesty I think this is a game that will be 100% determined by weather. If no wind/low wind day I go with Broncos. If it hits a typical Jan/Feb Meadowlands windy day withe gusts sustained in 20s MPH range I go with Seahawks. 

 

As of now, they are predicting sustained 19 MPH winds, with higher gusts of 26 MPH. Its early to predict, but thats close to altering Broncos passing game and favoring Seahawks running game..

 

Personally, I think the score will dictate the winner.

 

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(Joking aside, I agree... this game could very easily be impacted by weather, specifically wind in the Meadowlands. Which is why the league is STUPID for hosting it there.)


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:51 AM

Their last home game it was 60 degrees. They havent faced a defense like this one all season- Seattle's got so many hybrid defensive linemen that should take away Peyton's presnap shenanigans. Their defense is built to beat teams like the Broncos.

 

I think it will be close with a Peyton interception costing the Broncos the game,

 

The athleticism on Seattle is unreal, I agree.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:56 AM

I've said all along that I thought no matter which NFC team won, they would be whichever AFC team won because they are just much more physical at the point of attack. I want to cheer for Peyton Manning to win another, but I'm not sure I see ti happening. Should be a helluva game though.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 01:54 PM

Dude you're discounting a team that's home field is in the Rocky Mountains. Really?

Yes dude, they havent had sustained winds in Denver games this year over 20..only 2 games, 17 and 16 this year,,others, 7, 8, 7, 8, 6, 5, 9

 

The magic # with Vegas on altering a game has always been in 20s sustained, with over 25 being major effect 

 

Actually only game Peyton had in those winds was at Patriots, with 22 sustained and he lost game and had only 132 yds passing..

 

BUT, right now its saying 6 MPH SB day with gusts to 15,,,so Broncos WIN!!!!


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:14 PM

Yes dude, they havent had sustained winds in Denver games this year over 20..only 2 games, 17 and 16 this year,,others, 7, 8, 7, 8, 6, 5, 9

 

The magic # with Vegas on altering a game has always been in 20s sustained, with over 25 being major effect 

 

Actually only game Peyton had in those winds was at Patriots, with 22 sustained and he lost game and had only 132 yds passing..

 

BUT, right now its saying 6 MPH SB day with gusts to 15,,,so Broncos WIN!!!!

Don't dude me. I'm not the one with Jeff Lebowski for an avatar.

 

That's more research than I was willing to put in. That's interesting.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:22 PM

Don't dude me. I'm not the one with Jeff Lebowski for an avatar.

 

That's more research than I was willing to put in. That's interesting.

LOL, I thought since you called me Dude it was your 'thing' LOL I personally hate it


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