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T0mShane    90,802

Prosecutors give up on Carlos Ortiz as witness against Hernandez

Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2014, 9:22 AM EST

AP

The case against former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez may not be as strong as once believed.

Carlos Ortiz, once believed to be the star witness against Hernandez in the murder of Odin Lloyd based on the extent to which information apparently obtained from him was used to support search warrants and arrest warrants, will now not be called as a witness at all. Via the Taunton (Mass.) Daily Gazette, paperwork filed Friday in court indicates that prosecutors view Ortiz as “completely unreliable” based on the fact that his once-damning story has dramatically changed.

As a result, prosecutors could now be attempting the equivalent of a Hail Mary pass.

Via the Associated Press, prosecutors want to review Hernandez’s phone conversations in search of “coded messages” that could show Hernandez was talking about the murder of Odin Lloyd with his fiancee, Shayanna Jenkins, and/or his cousin, Tanya Singleton.

Prosecutors contend Hernandez discussed Lloyd’s murder in cryptic fashion. Topics allegedly included Hernandez’s “belief about his criminal liability” and the “extent of his control over persons charged as accessories.”

Even if that’s what happened, it could be a challenge to use “I took care of that thing”-style remarks to show guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. But that may be all they have, if neither Ortiz nor Ernest Wallace, the two men allegedly in the car with Hernandez and Lloyd before Lloyd was shot to death, will be testifying against Hernandez.

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Larz    59,400

I'm shocked a witness in a gang murder is changing his story

 

the pats* even cheat when they murder

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Maxman    519,247

I can't even joke about signing him.  I want to joke about it but I just can't....

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BroadwayJoe12    16,412

I thought this was going to be a veiled reference about drafting Colt Lyerla. I've been let down by both T0mshane and the justice system. I'm not sure which one hurts more.

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Lizard King    1,473

They still have an entirely different case to pursue now for a shooting outside of a Boston nightclub. If he clears both i would sign him on the cheap though. Just putting that out there

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T0mShane    90,802

I thought this was going to be a veiled reference about drafting Colt Lyerla. I've been let down by both T0mshane and the justice system. I'm not sure which one hurts more.

Both systematically unreliable.

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faba    117,901

So a couple of months ago they supposedly had so much evidence and now they have little- i do not believe these stories

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Lizard King    1,473

So a couple of months ago they supposedly had so much evidence and now they have little- i do not believe these stories

Why would the associated press make that up? I kinda felt like the prosecutor was stalling all along. He shoudlve been going by now

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JiF    125,349

Sign Hernandez, Vick, Incognito. Bam! Super Bowl, baby!

Agreed. If there is one Head Coach that could handle those personalities, it's Rex Ryan.

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JiF    125,349

And I'd bring TO and Ocho Cinco in for a look, maybe Randy Moss too.

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faba    117,901

Agreed. If there is one Head Coach that could handle those personalities, it's Rex Ryan.

Yeah i can see it now our three tri-captains

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SouthernJet    208,702

I can't even joke about signing him.  I want to joke about it but I just can't....

agree, he is the current young leader of ThugTurds. OJ wont be around much long I hear, so this former TE (now a WR I hear) will inherit the crown.

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flgreen    23,497

I normally don't care what these guys do off field, Vick, Incognito, ect, this guy I don't want to touch with a ten foot pole

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johnnysd    1,684

Agreed. If there is one Head Coach that could handle those personalities, it's Rex Ryan.

If the Jets signed Hernandez and Vick I would find another team. I still think that they have enough to convict Hernandez anyway.

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Villain The Foe    5,705

 

 

The only thing I got from this is that my phone is constantly tapped, and that everything I write on the internet is filed and stored away...even my "PM's". lol. 

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Larz    59,400

The only thing I got from this is that my phone is constantly tapped, and that everything I write on the internet is filed and stored away...even my "PM's". lol. 

 

echelon

 

shhhhhhhh

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SMC    90,190

Hernandez is trying to 1 up OJ. OJonly got away with a double homicide.

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brian101193    68

The only thing I got from this is that my phone is constantly tapped, and that everything I write on the internet is filed and stored away...even my "PM's". lol. 

He never got bail so he is still in jail, all those phone calls are recorded.

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joewillie78    25

If the Jets signed Hernandez and Vick I would find another team. I still think that they have enough to convict Hernandez anyway.

OJ Simpson

Robert Blake

Casey Anthony

 

Etc.

 

EVEN money the dude gets 1200 yards in 2014.

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Jolot    1,198

Sign him,...gang life is like the wild west,...if the Earps can use Doc Holiday to win a gunfight we can use this guy to win some games no?

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BurnleyJet    2,609

Seem like a "Mangini" type of guy. Even if he gets off thing he changes he's ways? - Secondly no way he's coming hear imagine the media.

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