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Phillip Gaines: Corner Back, Rice


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Now that I've made my point on what receiver I'd like to have, here's the CB I'd like the Jets to draft. 

 

This kid can surely man-cover a WR. Total sleeper. He turns his head around on every play and shows alot of awareness. I want this kid to be a Jet. I put him in my latest mock draft. This kid looks legit. 

 

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Looks a little better than a 7th rounder to me, could be a steal in the later rounds.

im looking to see if I can find some more tape on him. I like how he plays man and zone. He's a bit light though, needs more strength. He'll get that NFL body in a year or two though. He most definitely looks like a steal though. 

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Check the link for clip breakdowns. 

 

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/steelers-nfl-draft-prospects-scouting-video-2014/2014/4/11/5544360/2014-nfl-draft-prospects-phillip-gaines-rice-scouting-report-film-breakdown

 

2014 NFL Draft Prospects: Rice's Phillip Gaines is the best corner you haven't heard of yet

By Steel34D on Apr 11 2014, 2:30p 32

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In past drafts, the Steelers under general manager Kevin Colbert have been known to take lengthy mid-round developmental cornerbacks in the draft. Phillip Gaines fits that mold but unlike past prospects Gaines is far from a developmental prospect.

When you think about college football programs that produce NFL talent Rice, isn't one that comes to mind immediately. Joining Conference USA in 2005 after formerly being in the Western Atlantic Conference (WAC) its players do not receive the national attention even if they deserve it. One player deserving is the Owls cornerback Phillip Gaines. Gaines has been the Owls best cover corner over the last two years. In 2012 he amassed 33 tackles, two tackles for loss and a ridiculous 18 passes defensed. In 2013 Gaines wasn't targeted as much however he finished with 36 tackles, four tackles for loss, four interceptions, and nine passes defensed. He earned 1st-team All-Conference USA honors for both of those years. He finished his college career 38 career pass break ups which is a Rice record.

Strengths

Gaines measured in at the NFL Combine at 6-foot, 193 pounds with 31 7/8 inch arm length. At the Combine he show cased probably his best asset, his athleticism. Gaines ran a 4.38s 40-yard dash (second fastest of all CB's at the  Combine behind Gilbert's 4.37), he completed the 3-cone drill in 6.67s (second fastest  of all CBs and fifth fastest of all players at the Combine) and completed the 20-yard shuffle in 4.04s. ( fourth fastest among all CBs at the Combine.)

On tape Gaines athleticism shows up frequently. He has a quick backpedal and he keeps his center-of-gravity low. His footwork is impressive and he shows off very quick feet. He confirmed this at the Combine easily moving through every drill.  He has the athletic ability to backpedal or shuffle and still make a play on any route. He effortlessly flips his hips to mirror a receiver through the route. The explosion out of his backpedal is apparent.  Great closing speed allows him to cover up any mistakes in his reads or gambles he takes.

However Gaines is much more than just an athlete. He has tremendous awareness in zone coverage. Gaines has feels the routes behind him and flows with the QBs eyes to the football.  He has an obviously high football I.Q. and it shows up in games. He sees the field incredibly well and uses this awareness along with his speed to make plays on throws that may not originally have been in his zone.  Below is an example of his ability to feel the route behind him and make a play on the football.

 

In this play we see that Rice is set up in a zone defense. With no receiver in his zone Gaines looks behind him to see how the routes are developing. He quickly sees the corner route is going to be open and uses his speed to close on the receiver. Then Gaines times his jump well to knock the pass away on what should have been an easy touchdown. This is an incredibly athletic play and not many corners could have made it.

Not always correct in his reads, he makes up for it with his athleticism.The play below highlights this.

 

The receiver fakes an inside move which causes Gaines to hesitate. When he opens up for an outside release he opens too wide taking a bad step. He is able to recover from this and along with a slightly late throw Gaines makes an excellent play on the football.

As a captain of the Owls Gaines showed leadership as well as toughness. Despite his size he isn't afraid to tackle and help in run support which is a plus for any cornerback.

It isn't hard to see why Gaines was targeted only 40 times all year and allowed only 13 receptions in 2013 or on 32.5 percent of the passes thrown his way . With nine pass break ups and four interceptions, he had his hand on the ball 13 times of the 40 targets. This means that Gaines had his hands on the football almost 1 out of every 3 passes in 2013. That number is the same as Kyle Fuller and is better than top corners Gilbert (3.93), Dennard (4.25) and Roby (4.93). Of the other corners projected to go on or before Day 2 of the draft only Verrett (2.75) had a better  pass defensed rate.

Weaknesses

Gaines biggest  weakness I have seen on tape is his strength. He is thinly built and underdeveloped muscularly. He was only able to do 11 reps during the bench press at the Combine. In the three full games I watched Gaines was targeted 14 times. He broke up four passes, intercepted a fifth and allowed only four catches. Of those four catches three were on comeback routes and the fourth was on a back shoulder pass. In each case he was facing a bigger receiver who used their superior strength to get separation. This might be a concern to heavy man-to-man coverage teams. Gaines will need to improve his strength to become better in man-to-man coverage. The lack of strength also makes it hard for Gaines to get off blocks in the run game or on screens.

He also is the leading candidate for the 2014 Ike Taylor award which goes to the most athletic corner with stone hands. Gaines doesn't always make the catch and has dropped a few easy interceptions in the past.

Finally like most corners Gaines isn't a strong tackler. He isn't afraid to be physical and help in the run game but he lunges, throws his shoulder and doesn't always wrap up the ball carrier. This lead to some missed tackles.

There is also a few minor red flags. The first is health concerns with Gaines. In his freshman year he missed three games due to injury, his junior year he played in only five games before missing the rest of the year earning a medical redshirt. This  can lead to durability concerns. The second red flag is that Gaines was suspended for the first game of the 2013 season for a violation of team rules. This suspension could have been for a variety of thing but was not disclosed publicly. Teams are definitely going to look into this suspension as a potential red flag.

Overall

Phillip Gaines is a long, athletic corner with excellent vision and movement skills. He will need to improve his strength to handle NFL receivers in man-to-man coverage. Gaines however displays good football I.Q. and awareness to suggest that he can excel in a zone scheme. The Steelers would be remiss to not look in to Gaines as a potential replacement for Ike Taylor. He possess all the necessary skills they desire. I have read that he is projected to go in the middle rounds but  that doesn't match what I see on tape. Don't be surprise when Gaines ends up being drafted on Day 2 of the 2014 NFL draft because his play justifies just that.

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I've seen him rated as high as 2nd

Yeah, I know. This kid has really moved up the big board. When I originally posted this thread on the 1st of March he wasn't even talked about. Post combine he's really put his name on the map. This kid is a beast and I would spend a 2nd round on him. I would definitely pass on those first round CB's and pick up something else while getting Gaines in the 2nd. 

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Yeah, I know. This kid has really moved up the big board. When I originally posted this thread on the 1st of March he wasn't even talked about. Post combine he's really put his name on the map. This kid is a beast and I would spend a 2nd round on him. I would definitely pass on those first round CB's and pick up something else while getting Gaines in the 2nd.

There's a huge risk taking a player early that wasn't on the map before his workout.

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There's a huge risk taking a player early that wasn't on the map before his workout.

He wasn't on the map before his workout because his games weren't on the map, but his workout was. There's a reason why he even got invited to the combine, its because the people inviting believed that he could be of that ilk. 

 

Kalil Mack's games weren't on the map either. The only reason why 95% of the football world has even heard of this guy is because of the combine and the fact that he's talked about so much. 95% of people never even seen a Buffalo game yet these people are confident that he's a top 3/top 5 pick in this draft. No one seems to be equating that as a risk. 

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He wasn't on the map before his workout because his games weren't on the map, but his workout was. There's a reason why he even got invited to the combine, its because the people inviting believed that he could be of that ilk.

Kalil Mack's games weren't on the map either. The only reason why 95% of the football world has even heard of this guy is because of the combine and the fact that he's talked about so much. 95% of people never even seen a Buffalo game yet these people are confident that he's a top 3/top 5 pick in this draft. No one seems to be equating that as a risk.

Fair enough

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He wasn't on the map before his workout because his games weren't on the map, but his workout was. There's a reason why he even got invited to the combine, its because the people inviting believed that he could be of that ilk. 

 

Kalil Mack's games weren't on the map either. The only reason why 95% of the football world has even heard of this guy is because of the combine and the fact that he's talked about so much. 95% of people never even seen a Buffalo game yet these people are confident that he's a top 3/top 5 pick in this draft. No one seems to be equating that as a risk. 

 

These guys were on the map before their workouts.  I'm not that familiar with where Gaines was pre-combine, but Mack was a first rounder before the combine and I watched Buffalo games.  To be truthful he did not impress me that much, but the announcers always described him as an early first rounder. 

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These guys were on the map before their workouts.  I'm not that familiar with where Gaines was pre-combine, but Mack was a first rounder before the combine and I watched Buffalo games.  To be truthful he did not impress me that much, but the announcers always described him as an early first rounder. 

Thats my point. The other 95% of the people who didn't watch buffalo games didn't hear the announcers describe Mack as a 1st rounder.

 

And I agree with your Mack statement. When I looked at his tape, I was expecting complete dominance....I just seen a pretty good football player. 

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Thats my point. The other 95% of the people who didn't watch buffalo games didn't hear the announcers describe Mack as a 1st rounder.

 

And I agree with your Mack statement. When I looked at his tape, I was expecting complete dominance....I just seen a pretty good football player. 

 

I don't think we are disagreeing about anything.  95% of the people are not what we are discussing.  Talking heads like Mayock and Kiper and the rest had these guys ranked and ranked fairly highly.  I honestly do not think that Mack went up much because of his workouts.  As Stonehands said, Gaines might have gotten a bump of a few rounds.  If you like the guy (like you/Villain) then the workout supports your review.  If you don't, he is a workout warrior.  Same kind of thing can be said about Latimer as he rises into the 2nd/late first.  I think a bunch of guys had Latimer as a later round steal becuase they didn't think he was going to be able to work out, especially so early because of his foot. 

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