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Melo's Farewell Tour--Remainder of 2013-2014 NY Knicks Thread


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:11 PM

Thankfully, Thor performed euthanasia on last thread.

The big issue now will be whether the Knicks become the first team in NBA history to go from 50 wins to 50 losses returning same coach and top 5 scorers.

I think Melo is as good as gone, which will make some Knicks fans happy. Either way, these may be his last 23 games with the Knicks.

Rock bottom is approaching as T0m rejoices.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:25 PM

T0m, Knicks are 11 losses away from 50. Do you think it happens?

It'll be the 5th time they lost 50 or more in the last 9 years.

What's crazy is that since the 1976 merger, Knicks only lost 50 games or more 4 times before then.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:38 PM

Were not going .500 the rest of the year, they don't care anymore. So yes to the 50 losses
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:58 PM

I agree, SN. 50 losses seem more likely than 41 wins.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:06 PM

T0m, Knicks are 11 losses away from 50. Do you think it happens?

It'll be the 5th time they lost 50 or more in the last 9 years.

What's crazy is that since the 1976 merger, Knicks only lost 50 games or more 4 times before then.



I think the team has quit and Dolan is too stubborn to fire Woodson, so it's a death spiral right now. Please promise to live-post during the lottery.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:19 PM

Id say the chances of Melo leaving are about 30-70


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:23 PM

Id say the chances of Melo leaving are about 30-70


He's a check-casher. He'll take Dolan's money, dictate who the next coach is, and happily put up 30 shots for next year's lottery team.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:27 PM

I disagree with Matt ' percentages. I think it's 60-40 he leaves.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:28 PM

He's a check-casher. He'll take Dolan's money, dictate who the next coach is, and happily put up 30 shots for next year's lottery team.

He'll never be happy on a lottery team when all his buds are on playoff teams.

Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:30 PM

He's a check-casher. He'll take Dolan's money, dictate who the next coach is, and happily put up 30 shots for next year's lottery team.

 

We'll find out a lot about him in the coming months. 

 

I really have no idea how he's valued on the open market to be honest. 


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:30 PM

I think the team has quit and Dolan is too stubborn to fire Woodson, so it's a death spiral right now. Please promise to live-post during the lottery.

I'll still post.

It only makes sense if Dolan is not trying to piss of a name coach by firing Woody.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:32 PM

We'll find out a lot about him in the coming months.

I really have no idea how he's valued on the open market to be honest.

At least you admit that.

Your claim that no one would sign him was insane.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:36 PM

At least you admit that.

Your claim that no one would sign him was insane.

 

I know he'd play somewhere....point being IDK how much he's worth to a team that's looking to win a title. Is Melo willing to be a final piece type of player? He's never had to be that. He's never really had to adjust his game. His career has always been about getting his shots.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:40 PM

I know he'd play somewhere....point being IDK how much he's worth to a team that's looking to win a title. Is Melo willing to be a final piece type of player? He's never had to be that. He's never really had to adjust his game. His career has always been about getting his shots.

We'll see.

If I had to bet, he'll sign with Bulls for less than max.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:49 PM

We'll see.

If I had to bet, he'll sign with Bulls for less than max.

 

Pairing Dolan with Melo was destined for failure. Dolan will never cede power to a coach and he's so scared of Melo leaving he lets him do whatever he wants. Melo needs a coach that's going to challnege him. I don't know if he wants it back.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 02:06 PM

Pairing Dolan with Melo was destined for failure. Dolan will never cede power to a coach and he's so scared of Melo leaving he lets him do whatever he wants. Melo needs a coach that's going to challnege him. I don't know if he wants it back.

I agree with this except for last sentence.

Melo wants to win. Only dolts like T0m thinks he'll rather lose to put up shots. Thibs will push Melo and Melo will play well under him.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 02:19 PM

I agree with this except for last sentence.

Melo wants to win. Only dolts like T0m thinks he'll rather lose to put up shots. Thibs will push Melo and Melo will play well under him.

 

The wife has a say too you know. Dont underestimate that.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 02:52 PM

Good riddance.  Cant win with that guy.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:13 PM

Good riddance. Cant win with that guy.

They haven't been able to win with anyone in over 40 years
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:29 PM

Please promise to live-post during the lottery.


Yeah, I can't wait to watch Jabari Parker or Wiggins put on a Nuggets jersey. I'd be willing to bet the Knicks didn't even broach the idea of lottery-protecting the picks they shipped to Denver...
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:32 PM

Thibs will push Melo and Melo will play well under him.


Maybe for a season, save for them winning a title in year one. Between defense, accountability, and running players into the ground, Thibs will wear on Melo quickly if they don't at least make it to the Finals.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 04:59 PM

Yeah, I can't wait to watch Jabari Parker or Wiggins put on a Nuggets jersey. I'd be willing to bet the Knicks didn't even broach the idea of lottery-protecting the picks they shipped to Denver...


Under "The Knicks receive" they put Carmelo, signed it and sent it back for the nuggets to fill out the rest. Steve Mills this year didn't realize you can hang up the phone and have the Clippers call you back at the trade deadline. He had a deal in place to move Shump to OKC, Clippers didn't want that. When you have a bunch of guys hired by Donald Sterling sitting in a room laughing at you on speaker phone that's beyond incompetence.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:17 PM

Yeah, I can't wait to watch Jabari Parker or Wiggins put on a Nuggets jersey. I'd be willing to bet the Knicks didn't even broach the idea of lottery-protecting the picks they shipped to Denver...

Heck, Dolan didn't know you could pull off trades before December 15.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:19 PM

Maybe for a season, save for them winning a title in year one. Between defense, accountability, and running players into the ground, Thibs will wear on Melo quickly if they don't at least make it to the Finals.

With a healthy Rose and Melo next year, the Bulls would reach the Finals.
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:20 PM

He'd ruin everything about the Bulls.


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