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I know it's frustrating for ALL of us, watching all these players go unsigned by this GM when he has 30 million in cap room but in this particular case I keep equating DeSean Jackson to the player who he most seemed to resemble and who went off last year as the big FA WR name. That guy is/was Mike Wallace a gigantic disappointment for Miami who are already trying to unload him after one crappy season. 

 

Who knows maybe we're gonna find out that it's actually Woody Johnson who doesn't want to let loose the cash for ANY of these players. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and find out sometime this year that he wants to sell the team. Nah...we couldn't get THAT lucky. Who knows...maybe the Shadow (Manish Mehta) knows...

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The interesting thing to me is that we had the same conversations about Tannenbaum.  He only drafted character and did not go after FAs with character concerns.  In 2007 it was all we heard. he was too afraid of risks, too cap concious.  Then he got Favre and became Nick the Greek

Dom, I think it was more under Herm who only wanted Choirboys on the team and a lot of us would be saying that you actually NEED some scumbags on the team, guys who will gauge a Pats players eye out chew on it and then plug it back into his head. Because when Rex got here that's just what he did, he started going after some of those idiots and the results showed-in his first two years anyway. Then he seemed to get distracted by who knows what, maybe not enough calories or something.

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I know it's frustrating for ALL of us, watching all these players go unsigned by this GM when he has 30 million in cap room but in this particular case I keep equating DeSean Jackson to the player who he most seemed to resemble and who went off last year as the big FA WR name. That guy is/was Mike Wallace a gigantic disappointment for Miami who are already trying to unload him after one crappy season. 

 

Who knows maybe we're gonna find out that it's actually Woody Johnson who doesn't want to let loose the cash for ANY of these players. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and find out sometime this year that he wants to sell the team. Nah...we couldn't get THAT lucky. Who knows...maybe the Shadow (Manish Mehta) knows...

Frustrating for fans like us but what about the organization.

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Dom, I think it was more under Herm who only wanted Choirboys on the team and a lot of us would be saying that you actually NEED some scumbags on the team, guys who will gauge a Pats players eye out chew on it and then plug it back into his head. Because when Rex got here that's just what he did, he started going after some of those idiots and the results showed-in his first two years anyway. Then he seemed to get distracted by who knows what, maybe not enough calories or something.

 

Absolutely not.  It was Tannenbaum and Mangini.  Their first two drafts were nothing but team captains and intangbiles. I don't remember Herm having any policy on that, but I wasn't here in those days.

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The interesting thing to me is that we had the same conversations about Tannenbaum. He only drafted character and did not go after FAs with character concerns. In 2007 it was all we heard. he was too afraid of risks, too cap concious. Then he got Favre and became Nick the Greek

No, he hired Rex, whom he mistook for Father Flanagan.

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Absolutely not.  It was Tannenbaum and Mangini.  Their first two drafts were nothing but team captains and intangbiles. I don't remember Herm having any policy on that, but I wasn't here in those days.

yea Herm had all of those old school rules and then you're right then we had Tanny and Mangini with the whole "Jets' Core Values" crapola thing

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And the Seahawks won the super bowl the year after Idzik left, coincidence?  FWIW, I'm beginning to think Joewilly is actually Mehta, save the punctuation. 

 

It's okay, Mehta will like Idzik again when he has to meet the cash floor by 2016 and recreate the Richard Pryor role in Brewster's Millions.

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It's okay, Mehta will like Idzik again when he has to meet the cash floor by 2016 and recreate the Richard Pryor role in Brewster's Millions.

 

so spending this year is good, spending next year is bad ?

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Who is dick young and what is his reputation?

Dick Young (October 17, 1917–August 30, 1987) was a sportswriter best known for his direct and abrasive style, and his 45-year association with the New York Daily News. He was elected to the writers' wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1978, and was a former president of the Baseball Writers Association of America.[1]

Young was the first sportswriter to treat the clubhouse as a central and necessary part of the sports "beat", and his success at ferreting out scoops and insights from within the previously private sanctum of the team was widely influential and much imitated. The Boston Globe's Bob Ryan said of Young, "He's the guy that broke ground, the guy who went into the locker room, and that changed everything."[2]

In 2000, Ira Berkow chose Young as one of the seven sportswriters who'd made the greatest impact on their profession, along with Red Smith, Grantland Rice, Ring Lardner, Damon Runyon, Jimmy Cannon, and Jim Murray. According to Jack Ziegler in the Dictionary of Literary Biography, Young was a "key transitional figure" between the "gentlemanly" sports reporting of old-time writers like Grantland Rice and Arthur Daley.

Upon his death, The New York Times described Young's prose style: "With all the subtlety of a knee in the groin, Dick Young made people gasp... He could be vicious, ignorant, trivial and callous, but for many years he was the epitome of the brash, unyielding yet sentimental Damon Runyon sportswriter."[3]Esquire Magazine called Young's writing "coarse and simpleminded, like a cave painting. But it is superbly crafted." Ross Wetzsteon wrote that Young had "singlehandedly replaced the pompous poetry of the press box with the cynical poetry of the streets." In his book The Boys of Summer, Roger Kahn called Young "spiky, self-educated, and New York." Characteristically, Young described his approach to sportswriting simply: "Tell people what's going on, and what you think is going on. Bread-and-butter stuff, meat-and-potato stuff."[2]

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Dom, I think it was more under Herm who only wanted Choirboys on the team and a lot of us would be saying that you actually NEED some scumbags on the team, guys who will gauge a Pats players eye out chew on it and then plug it back into his head. Because when Rex got here that's just what he did, he started going after some of those idiots and the results showed-in his first two years anyway. Then he seemed to get distracted by who knows what, maybe not enough calories or something.

it was everybody crying about how he ran his mouth so he changed, i miss how rex had this team going his first 2 years.hope he goes back to that.
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He really hasn't been here long enough to make that determination. 

Disagree with amount of cap money available and the vast amount of free agents that could have changed the face of this team towards winning he failed to improve this team like he could have.

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