Where I'm From: Geno Smith

[Villain The Foe]

Thought this was pretty cool. 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, his complete rookie highlight video. 

[SenorGato]

The highlights are called highlights for a reason, but I feel further convinced that Geno has the goods. I'm still down to draft a QB, but Geno is going to beat him.

[NJ]

The highlights are called highlights for a reason, but I feel further convinced that Geno has the goods. I'm still down to draft a QB, but Geno is going to beat him.

! agree with you catman. He can make most all the throws pretty well and has a low DIH (deer in headlights) quotient. Any reservations with him are all about his ability to consistently get his thinking straight.

[Villain The Foe]

The highlights are called highlights for a reason, but I feel further convinced that Geno has the goods. I'm still down to draft a QB, but Geno is going to beat him.

 

 

! agree with you catman. He can make most all the throws pretty well and has a low DIH (deer in headlights) quotient. Any reservations with him are all about his ability to consistently get his thinking straight.

 

 

I think he has the stuff as well. I do believe that we should draft a QB in the later rounds (6th or 7th rds) just in case we hit or at worse simply compete for the 3rd QB spot. I know its his "highlights" but with all the negative rhetoric on Geno in general you would have thought that this dude was just terrible. When you get a 10 min video showing a good portion of the variety of his throws it shows that this guy just needs time to grow into a reliable consistent NFL player. 

[jack48]

! agree with you catman. He can make most all the throws pretty well and has a low DIH (deer in headlights) quotient. Any reservations with him are all about his ability to consistently get his thinking straight.

He has some trouble throwing to his left. And those late throws on crossing patterns may have been him assuming the receiver would stop when open. We had some pretty dumb wideouts last year. He made the same Sanchez-dumb moves on a lot of his turnovers but he was a rookie. Diff with Sanchez was he never stopped making them. I feel that Geno will, for the most part.

[Latinlawyer]

He has some trouble throwing to his left. And those late throws on crossing patterns may have been him assuming the receiver would stop when open. We had some pretty dumb wideouts last year. He made the same Sanchez-dumb moves on a lot of his turnovers but he was a rookie. Diff with Sanchez was he never stopped making them. I feel that Geno will, for the most part.

That is the key...growth. For the Jets to get better, the QB play HAS to get better. If Geno shows growth and can significantly reduce his turnovers from last year, then we will be in great shape. If his turnovers stay status quo, it will be hard to duplicate that 8-8 record and it will be time to draft a QB. Whoever is the QB must not give away field position through turnovers.

 

LL

[Villain The Foe]

That is the key...growth. For the Jets to get better, the QB play HAS to get better. If Geno shows growth and can significantly reduce his turnovers from last year, then we will be in great shape. If his turnovers stay status quo, it will be hard to duplicate that 8-8 record and it will be time to draft a QB. Whoever is the QB must not give away field position through turnovers.

 

LL

We would be in better shape. However, for the Jets to get better the talent must spread throughout the team, especially at depth. The over emphasis at QB is just that will kill this team. This isn't a disagreement per say, I just feel that other aspects of this team has to get better as well. I expect a rookie QB with upside to look exactly the way Geno did last year. What I don't expect is a football team to put out the type of WR's the Jets put out and expect to win football games, especially with a rookie QB. Geno's rookie season wasn't an unusual one for rookies. An unusual rookie season is the one Russell Wilson had, especially with him getting the nod to start with a QB  ahead of him who was just signed for 25 million to be the starter. 

 

Geno needs to play better, and I believe he will with experience. How much of a jump he takes however will be based on the talent surrounding him. 

[jack48]

We would be in better shape. However, for the Jets to get better the talent must spread throughout the team, especially at depth. The over emphasis at QB is just that will kill this team. This isn't a disagreement per say, I just feel that other aspects of this team has to get better as well. I expect a rookie QB with upside to look exactly the way Geno did last year. What I don't expect is a football team to put out the type of WR's the Jets put out and expect to win football games, especially with a rookie QB. Geno's rookie season wasn't an unusual one for rookies. An unusual rookie season is the one Russell Wilson had, especially with him getting the nod to start with a QB  ahead of him who was just signed for 25 million to be the starter. 

 

Geno needs to play better, and I believe he will with experience. How much of a jump he takes however will be based on the talent surrounding him.

No question about it. He will have better receivers. A real total package tight end might help too. Is it true that MM does not have a big role for TE in his offenses?

[Villain The Foe]

No question about it. He will have better receivers. A real total package tight end might help too. Is it true that MM does not have a big role for TE in his offenses?

It could be true based on the fact that he doesn't have a playmaking TE on the team.  I don't think that MM simply doesn't implement the position. MM really had no weapons to strategize with. I'll give you an example. The moment he got Goodson on the field from his suspension (catch/speed weapon) we seen what MM did with him at specific moments. Goodson averaged almost 9 yards per carry, albeit on just 7 carries and 9.5 yards per catch on 2 catches. My thing is this, in those two games we seen how Goodson was used to produce first downs. Goodson touched the ball 9 times and produced 4 first downs with MM playing situational football. If a guy like Goodson doesn't get hurt then MM would be able to extend his playbook to the field which gives Geno more of an opportunity to succeed, giving him more positive opportunities to stay away from the costly INT. I think that was the problem with MM and the TE (and the RB) position last year, which is why we shouldn't be surprised if the jets take a TE in either the 1st or 2nd round. 

 

I don't ever recommend taking a TE in the 1st round just being a Jets fan, but Jace Amaro is pretty intriguing and can really provide a force at the position. Sorry for being longwinded, but I think that if the Jets want to see what their OC can do, provide the man with some talent at the skill positions. 

[Latinlawyer]

I have the Jets taking Amaro in the 2nd round. However, there are mocks that show Amaro being gobbled up in te early 2nd round.

 

LL

[NJ]

He has some trouble throwing to his left. And those late throws on crossing patterns may have been him assuming the receiver would stop when open. We had some pretty dumb wideouts last year. He made the same Sanchez-dumb moves on a lot of his turnovers but he was a rookie. Diff with Sanchez was he never stopped making them. I feel that Geno will, for the most part.

Agreed Jack - I'm thinking Hill can maybe execute an eighth of the route tree and we had other wr's that were on practice squads for a reason. But Geno needs to have all his weapons defined and squared away in his melon because net net - it's his interception and or worse pick six. He seems to have the guts and some pretty fair composure for being cast into the fire right out of the box with the Marx Brothers to throw to.

[Villain The Foe]

I have the Jets taking Amaro in the 2nd round. However, there are mocks that show Amaro being gobbled up in te early 2nd round.

 

LL

I don't see Amaro being on the board when the Jets pick in the 2nd round. He's arguably better than Ebron and some people think Ebron is a top 10 talent. I personally don't, but you get my point. Jace Amaro's numbers are very solid. We don't need superstars at every position either, we just need quality. Idzik understands this which is why its a beautiful thing to have 12 picks in the draft. I have a feeling we will also pick up a MLB this draft to develop in order to have Harris walk in FAgency in order to get comp picks. 

[jack48]

Agreed Jack - I'm thinking Hill can maybe execute an eighth of the route tree and we had other wr's that were on practice squads for a reason. But Geno needs to have all his weapons defined and squared away in his melon because net net - it's his interception and or worse pick six. He seems to have the guts and some pretty fair composure for being cast into the fire right out of the box with the Marx Brothers to throw to.

His arm is strong enough. He needs a little more touch and a little less Clyde Gates.

[jack48]

It could be true based on the fact that he doesn't have a playmaking TE on the team.  I don't think that MM simply doesn't implement the position. MM really had no weapons to strategize with. I'll give you an example. The moment he got Goodson on the field from his suspension (catch/speed weapon) we seen what MM did with him at specific moments. Goodson averaged almost 9 yards per carry, albeit on just 7 carries and 9.5 yards per catch on 2 catches. My thing is this, in those two games we seen how Goodson was used to produce first downs. Goodson touched the ball 9 times and produced 4 first downs with MM playing situational football. If a guy like Goodson doesn't get hurt then MM would be able to extend his playbook to the field which gives Geno more of an opportunity to succeed, giving him more positive opportunities to stay away from the costly INT. I think that was the problem with MM and the TE (and the RB) position last year, which is why we shouldn't be surprised if the jets take a TE in either the 1st or 2nd round. 

 

I don't ever recommend taking a TE in the 1st round just being a Jets fan, but Jace Amaro is pretty intriguing and can really provide a force at the position. Sorry for being longwinded, but I think that if the Jets want to see what their OC can do, provide the man with some talent at the skill positions.

Be as longwinded as you like. Nice to see some optimism. I thought I had read that in his previous lives MM had not been a TE man, but I cannot think for the life of me where i saw it. It may have been just some jackwagon on this site. Imagine quoting, or in my case, paraphrasing one of the bloggers here!

[BroadwayJoe12]

Be as longwinded as you like. Nice to see some optimism. I thought I had read that in his previous lives MM had not been a TE man, but I cannot think for the life of me where i saw it. It may have been just some jackwagon on this site. Imagine quoting, or in my case, paraphrasing one of the bloggers here!

 

I've heard it before as well, usually from his Philly days, but Brent Celek had a very productive career there and seemingly a prominent role in that offense. I imagine that's what they'd like Cumberland to develop into, but Celek has actually had a very nice career if memory serves me right.  

[NCJETSFAN]

The jets aren't even sure of geno that's why Vick is here. He came here cause he knows he has a good chance to start !

[jack48]

I've heard it before as well, usually from his Philly days, but Brent Celek had a very productive career there and seemingly a prominent role in that offense. I imagine that's what they'd like Cumberland to develop into, but Celek has actually had a very nice career if memory serves me right.

Whenever I saw Celek play (not a lot, admittedly) he looked like an all star--you are right. A lot of stuff downfield. The Jets may be grooming Cumberland for that stuff, and looking to draft a conventional blocking-receiving guy for Geno, who can be a safety valve but still be an effective red zone weapon.

[Bugg]

I wish it were otherwise, but this coaching staff didn't trust Smih to pass except when they had no choice. He habitually turns the ball over and that only improved because they barely let him pass at all. See a  guy that sulks on the sidelines after a mistake like Pick 6 rather seeking out coaches and photos like Eli Manning does. Cannot help but think Smith's college career is a result of having a superior offensive force like Tayvon Austin as  weapon rather than anything he did.Rap was he gets down after failure, doesn't have the dog's memory to get to work on the next series. Saw that a lot.  He looked awful vs.Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl, saw little else in 2013 spare a few decent passes that would lead you to think he'llever get it. Vick i here for these reasons.And it's probably why the Jets are going to draft another  QB in May.  

[Lizard King]

Quick question... It doesn't really matter, but do we know who produced the videos? I would guess his agent?

[slats]

Geno needs to keep the turnovers down and his confidence up. My biggest concern about him -by far- is his mental makeup. He sulks when things don't go his way, whether it's in the green room at the draft or on the sidelines, and that's not a leadership trait. It's something he needs to grow out of in a hurry. I do believe he has the physical ability to play the position.

I thought from the onset that he was the type of player who should've ridden the bench his rookie year. The system he ran in college does not translate well to the pros. He had a lot to adapt to as a rookie, all in the glare of the NY spotlight. It's encouraging that he improved at the end of last season, and also that he's put some time in on his own at QB school. Decker + a first round WR would certainly go a long ways weapons-wise. A pass catching back, whether it's CJ, Goodson, or a draft pick, would also be huge.

I think he can take the next step, and I'm rooting for him, but it all comes down to him being able to fight thru adversity rather than succumb to it.

[Villain The Foe]

Geno needs to keep the turnovers down and his confidence up. My biggest concern about him -by far- is his mental makeup. He sulks when things don't go his way, whether it's in the green room at the draft or on the sidelines, and that's not a leadership trait. It's something he needs to grow out of in a hurry. I do believe he has the physical ability to play the position.

I thought from the onset that he was the type of player who should've ridden the bench his rookie year. The system he ran in college does not translate well to the pros. He had a lot to adapt to as a rookie, all in the glare of the NY spotlight. It's encouraging that he improved at the end of last season, and also that he's put some time in on his own at QB school. Decker + a first round WR would certainly go a long ways weapons-wise. A pass catching back, whether it's CJ, Goodson, or a draft pick, would also be huge.

I think he can take the next step, and I'm rooting for him, but it all comes down to him being able to fight thru adversity rather than succumb to it.

it's funny you feel that way. I felt the opposite about geno. I thought it was Sanchez who sulked and geno who was more emotionless at times. You're on point though overall. 

[TnT]

it's funny you feel that way. I felt the opposite about geno. I thought it was Sanchez who sulked and geno who was more emotionless at times. You're on point though overall.

Ditto on Genos demeanor. I dont recall him looking tw@tty on the sideline one bit.

[SpartanJet]

I must say looking at that highlight video left me completely uninspired and even more concerned about the Jets QB situation.  Ive never seen a highlight video include 10 yard or less passes to open receivers or so many short gainers. The few long passes on the video are terrible as well, more luck/good adjustments by receivers than anything Geno did.

 

Look at a highlight video from like Kenny O.  Its hard to believe we used to complain about that after looking at these "highlights" from Geno.

[Stonehands]

I wish it were otherwise, but this coaching staff didn't trust Smih to pass except when they had no choice. He habitually turns the ball over and that only improved because they barely let him pass at all. See a  guy that sulks on the sidelines after a mistake like Pick 6 rather seeking out coaches and photos like Eli Manning does. Cannot help but think Smith's college career is a result of having a superior offensive force like Tayvon Austin as  weapon rather than anything he did.Rap was he gets down after failure, doesn't have the dog's memory to get to work on the next series. Saw that a lot.  He looked awful vs.Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl, saw little else in 2013 spare a few decent passes that would lead you to think he'llever get it. Vick i here for these reasons.And it's probably why the Jets are going to draft another  QB in May.  

 

Works well for Eli, he has gotten really good at throwing picks. Must be the right approach.