faba Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Report: Manziel got 32 on Wonderlic Updated: April 11, 2014, 11:39 AM ET ESPN.com news services 0 1 0 EMAIL PRINT Manziel's Wonderful Wonderlic ESPN NFL Insider Field Yates discusses Johnny Manziel's score on the Wonderlic and how it could affect his draft stock.Tags: Johnny Manziel, Johnny Football, NFL, 2014, NFL Draft,Houston Texan Johnny Manziel reportedly scored a 32 on the Wonderlic test at the NFL scouting combine, potentially boosting his stock among NFL franchises considering selecting the former Texas A&M quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner with their first-round pick. The NFL Network's Albert Breer tweeted out the scores of some of the top quarterback prospects, reporting that Manziel scored a 32, while former Central Florida quarterbackBlake Bortles scored 28 and former Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater scored 20. Former Cornell quarterback Jeff Mathews had the highest score among signal callers with a 40. Breer did not report on the scores of any other quarterbacks available in May's draft. The Wonderlic is a 50-question test administered to all combine participants that measures cognitive ability. The time limit is 12 minutes. A score of 20 is indicative of "average" intelligence and roughly equivalent to an IQ of 100. Former Bengals punter Pat McInally, who attended Harvard, is the only NFL prospect known to have score a perfect 50 on the test. According to ESPN Stats & Information, among the 31 projected 2014 QB starters who have a reported Wonderlic score, the average is 29.4. The Kansas City Chiefs' Alex Smith has the highest (40). The Indianapolis Colts' Andrew Luck and San Francisco 49ers' Colin Kaepernickshare the highest score (37) for quarterbacks drafted in the last three seasons. Manziel is ranked No. 18 overall in ESPN Scouts Inc.'s list of top 32 prospects. Both ESPN's Todd McShay and Mel Kiper have the Minnesota Vikings picking him eighth overall in their latest mock drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 The guy from Cornell got 40 -nice to know those IVY schools are upholding their standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 maybe what we should do is post the Wonderlic scores from the top 10 QBs and the worst 10 QBs and see if there is a correlation. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 maybe what we should do is post the Wonderlic scores from the top 10 QBs and the worst 10 QBs and see if there is a correlation. LL didn't jamarcus russel get a 6 or something ridiculous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 didn't jamarcus russel get a 6 or something ridiculous? Pretty close. 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I think Vince Young had the 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I thought roger was going to squash these leaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ge(oh)no scored a 24 Sanchez scored a 28 The test probably only really matters for the outliers like Vince young getting a 6 or Andrew Luck getting a 37. Middle ground doesn't really say very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 and teddy slides another 10 picks this kid has epic bust written all over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 and teddy slides another 10 picks this kid has epic bust written all over him Small hands, small brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Small hands, small brains. the thing I noticed is he lobs a lot of passes. good luck with that in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What was Brady's wonderlic score ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What I can't understand is how can someone get single digits. Do they lose points more for a wrong answer than for a non-answer (blank)? Some of these have only 3 answers to choose from (never mind how simple they are). One kid from Iowa St. got a 4 once. A freaking FOUR. How the hell can you guess wrong 46x out of 50? Two current NFLers each got a 6 (Gore & Claiborne). Though both I think have severe LD issues perhaps more than pure intelligence issues, how can they not know to just put "b" or "c" for every answer? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanJet Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 What was Brady's wonderlic score ? 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The guy from Cornell got 40 -nice to know those IVY schools are upholding their standards I want to know what the guy who wrote the Rosa Parks essay at UNC got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Where can I take this? I want to get a better understanding of how hard college has failed these kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Did DJax take it? No more than 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Where can I take this? I want to get a better understanding of how hard college has failed these kids its out there, google it it all begins in high school when these kids get passed along to keep the coaches happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Romo got a 37, Tavon Austin got a 7, Decker got a 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The guy from Cornell got 40 -nice to know those IVY schools are upholding their standards Actually the QB I want the Jets to draft if not Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What I can't understand is how can someone get single digits. Do they lose points more for a wrong answer than for a non-answer (blank)? Some of these have only 3 answers to choose from (never mind how simple they are). One kid from Iowa St. got a 4 once. A freaking FOUR. How the hell can you guess wrong 46x out of 50? Two current NFLers each got a 6 (Gore & Claiborne). Though both I think have severe LD issues perhaps more than pure intelligence issues, how can they not know to just put "b" or "c" for every answer? Ridiculous. I am pretty sure a "4" means he is not capable of breathing on his own. And a 6, they aren't capable of reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Actually the QB I want the Jets to draft if not Bridgewater. McElroy, 48. Fitzpatrick 48. Not to say they are the same. Just pointing out some Wonderlic high scores. Gore, 6, windowlicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 There's an app in the Google store, if those questions are an accurate example some of these scores are baffling. Especially with Herms point that it's multiple choice and they're prepped ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 McElroy, 48. Fitzpatrick 48. Not to say they are the same. Just pointing out some Wonderlic high scores. Gore, 6, windowlicker. McElroy got a 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 McElroy got a 43. When I googled, everyone outside of wikipedia said 48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What I can't understand is how can someone get single digits. Do they lose points more for a wrong answer than for a non-answer (blank)? Some of these have only 3 answers to choose from (never mind how simple they are). One kid from Iowa St. got a 4 once. A freaking FOUR. How the hell can you guess wrong 46x out of 50? Two current NFLers each got a 6 (Gore & Claiborne). Though both I think have severe LD issues perhaps more than pure intelligence issues, how can they not know to just put "b" or "c" for every answer? Ridiculous. Do you remember that part in Blue Chips where the girlfriend from Sneakers had to tutor Shaq so he could pass his SATs? So that's kind of why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Just another reason to draft Johnny Football and watch the championships come in bunches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Pretty close. 24. Wow. He really has no excuse for wiping out--all the physical tools and above avg intelligence. He really must be a lazy SOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 What I can't understand is how can someone get single digits. Do they lose points more for a wrong answer than for a non-answer (blank)? Some of these have only 3 answers to choose from (never mind how simple they are). One kid from Iowa St. got a 4 once. A freaking FOUR. How the hell can you guess wrong 46x out of 50? Two current NFLers each got a 6 (Gore & Claiborne). Though both I think have severe LD issues perhaps more than pure intelligence issues, how can they not know to just put "b" or "c" for every answer? Ridiculous. The way I understand it, the questions are not that difficult. It is the short amount of time that separates the low from the high scorers. Can definitely see how someone who is intelligent but has a learning disability would score very low. Of course part of football is processing information and making decisions quickly, especially for QBs. I guess my point is it likely doesn't perfectly correlate to IQ. If you had an IQ of 100 (average) but had dyslexia, you would likely score below 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 its out there, google it it all begins in high school when these kids get passed along to keep the coaches happy That's exactly it. The kids can't be stupid because to get drafted they have to be able to execute complicated plays. Some kids grow up in an environment that school is not emphasized, they can play so they get pushed along with school officials looking the other way. Their world intersects the academic world only at a few well-controlled points. Then they give these kids the Wonderlic and everyone wonders how this can happen, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Do you remember that part in Blue Chips where the girlfriend from Sneakers had to tutor Shaq so he could pass his SATs? So that's kind of why. Never saw it. And on the SATs, you lose 1/4 point (or 1/5 point) for a wrong answer. I don't know if that's the case. And as DMC alluded to, some of the questions are 1+2 simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Never saw it. And on the SATs, you lose 1/4 point (or 1/5 point) for a wrong answer. I don't know if that's the case. And as DMC alluded to, some of the questions are 1+2 simple. Really? You really took that post seriously, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Actually the QB I want the Jets to draft if not Bridgewater. TWO D-1 prospects? Are you feeling ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Wow. He really has no excuse for wiping out--all the physical tools and above avg intelligence. He really must be a lazy SOB. JaMarcus Russell has fairly obvious psychological and addiction issues that were never seriously addressed for equally obvious reasons. It would have been nice to see how good he really could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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